The Plastic Crisis/Environment Thread
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mike_field
Vital Football Legend & Fun Sponge
Issues of national security should never be in private hands ultimately.
They might be able to argue for Gas, Electric etc. But Water is essential to life, there is no competition and it should be re-nationalised now. Sadly I dont think Starmer has the balls to do it.
The Fear
A Wise Man (once sat next to him)
Absolutely. And if you look at the pollution these corrupt companies are getting away with, re-nationalising is what they deserve as well, no more illegitimate massive profits/bonuses)
Gillette
Vital 1st Team Regular
Corrected for you mate.
Beovilla
Vital Villa's Version Of Wayne Bridge
The money is always there for whatever they (governments and their friends) like.
Evening JF. , Yes, I agree something has to be done, and yes I'm a bit older than you by a fair distance. The only thing I would say is that I live in a farming community and also an area that has solar farms, and the only people that are happy with them are the farmers that are getting the income from them. They are fairly universally hated by all age groups. I do wonder what outrage would follow if Hyde Park was totally covered in these things for the greater good.( Or dare I say Villa Park.)
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The Fear
A Wise Man (once sat next to him)
Evening JF. , Yes, I agree something has to be done, and yes I'm a bit older than you by a fair distance. The only thing I would say is that I live in a farming community and also an area that has solar farms, and the only people that are happy with them are the farmers that are getting the income from them. They are fairly universally hated by all age groups. I do wonder what outrage would follow if Hyde Park was totally covered in these things for the greater good.( Or dare I say Villa Park.)
We are in a real catch 22 aren't we. And with housing that is desperately needed. This is the problem, we all probably know what needs to be done, but none of us want it on our doorstep and quite rightly people aren't wanting beautiful countryside blighted.
Not sure what the answer is. Hopefully someone figures it out though!
mike_field
Vital Football Legend & Fun Sponge
We ignore old blokes like you two.
Solved.
Oh - balls.
Solved.
Oh - balls.
The Fear
A Wise Man (once sat next to him)
Robot weedkillers... clever!
www.theguardian.com
Could robot weedkillers replace the need for pesticides?
The robotic services allow farmers to rely less on chemicals. ‘This solves a lot of problems,’ workers say
www.theguardian.com
Missed this.
mike_field
Vital Football Legend & Fun Sponge
Could be a very key step in a wider plan, given all the obvious benefits of avoiding chemicals.Robot weedkillers... clever!
Could robot weedkillers replace the need for pesticides?
The robotic services allow farmers to rely less on chemicals. ‘This solves a lot of problems,’ workers say
mike_field
Vital Football Legend & Fun Sponge
Sure deep nodules being commercialised was mentioned in this thread.
Scientists have discovered “dark oxygen” being produced in the deep ocean, apparently by lumps of metal on the seafloor.
About half the oxygen we breathe comes from the ocean. But, before this discovery, it was understood that it was made by marine plants photosynthesising - something that requires sunlight.
Here, at depths of 5km, where no sunlight can penetrate, the oxygen appears to be produced by naturally occurring metallic “nodules” which split seawater - H2O - into hydrogen and oxygen.
Scientists have discovered “dark oxygen” being produced in the deep ocean, apparently by lumps of metal on the seafloor.
About half the oxygen we breathe comes from the ocean. But, before this discovery, it was understood that it was made by marine plants photosynthesising - something that requires sunlight.
Here, at depths of 5km, where no sunlight can penetrate, the oxygen appears to be produced by naturally occurring metallic “nodules” which split seawater - H2O - into hydrogen and oxygen.
Dark oxygen made by deep sea 'batteries'
The discovery that lumps of metal on the seafloor produce oxygen raises questions over plans to mine the deep ocean.
www.bbc.co.uk
The Fear
A Wise Man (once sat next to him)
Lots of alarm and harsh realities:
www.theguardian.com
But also, with effort, hope:
Mustonen and others at Snowchange are doing more than sounding alarms; they are turning climate despair into climate repair. A decade ago, the wetland I visited at Linnunsuo was a Mordor-like slag heap, the legacy of industrial peat mined for energy. Only two bird species used the site. Today, the restored wetland has become a prime hotspot for more than 200 bird species during spring and autumn migrations. Snowchange’s efforts have reduced soil-based emissions at Linnunsuo by an amount equivalent to taking a 100,000 cars off our roads a year.
‘Nobody ever saw anything like this before’: how methane emissions are pushing the Amazon towards environmental catastrophe
As the world heats up, methane released from thawing permafrost and warming tropical wetlands is intensifying climate breakdown. But curbing it is achievable
www.theguardian.com
But also, with effort, hope:
Mustonen and others at Snowchange are doing more than sounding alarms; they are turning climate despair into climate repair. A decade ago, the wetland I visited at Linnunsuo was a Mordor-like slag heap, the legacy of industrial peat mined for energy. Only two bird species used the site. Today, the restored wetland has become a prime hotspot for more than 200 bird species during spring and autumn migrations. Snowchange’s efforts have reduced soil-based emissions at Linnunsuo by an amount equivalent to taking a 100,000 cars off our roads a year.
Thought provoking article. Hopeful bits, but still rather gloomyLots of alarm and harsh realities:
‘Nobody ever saw anything like this before’: how methane emissions are pushing the Amazon towards environmental catastrophe
As the world heats up, methane released from thawing permafrost and warming tropical wetlands is intensifying climate breakdown. But curbing it is achievable
But also, with effort, hope:
Mustonen and others at Snowchange are doing more than sounding alarms; they are turning climate despair into climate repair. A decade ago, the wetland I visited at Linnunsuo was a Mordor-like slag heap, the legacy of industrial peat mined for energy. Only two bird species used the site. Today, the restored wetland has become a prime hotspot for more than 200 bird species during spring and autumn migrations. Snowchange’s efforts have reduced soil-based emissions at Linnunsuo by an amount equivalent to taking a 100,000 cars off our roads a year.
The Fear
A Wise Man (once sat next to him)
Yes, sort of tried to lead with the hopeful bit, but to be honest, I think we're a bit hopeless really!!!
The Fear
A Wise Man (once sat next to him)
Greece tourist port flooded with hundreds of thousands of dead fish
Authorities in Volos say affected area spans kilometres and could cause environmental disaster for other species
www.theguardian.com
The Fear
A Wise Man (once sat next to him)
So there you have it, all we needed for a cooler summer, was for me to have solar panels fitted.
With that said, fitted start of Nov 23, and 10 months in, I'm on a 10% return, I'd think it will finish 12 or so. With a normal summer, I was expecting 14-15%!
Summer 2024: coolest UK summer since 2015
The UK has seen its coolest summer for nine years, though it has been a season of contrasts across the country.
www.bbc.co.uk
With that said, fitted start of Nov 23, and 10 months in, I'm on a 10% return, I'd think it will finish 12 or so. With a normal summer, I was expecting 14-15%!
Just seen this afternoon a new housing development in the greater St Austell area of Cornwall. Modern looking properties, many affordable, but the striking thing was that every one of them had the new style solar panels that are countersunk into the roof. They actually enhanced the appearance of the properties aswell as reducing electricity bills. I'm guessing this was a planning requirement by Cornwall council, and should be mandatory for every new development.
The Fear
A Wise Man (once sat next to him)
Absolutely wittonite. Bit of forward thinking now, wouldn't go amiss, would it? Plenty they could do with re-using water and so on as well.
