The Ped Out of Europe Report AS Monaco 3-1 City

Tudor

Vital Football Legend
Monte Carlo went bust for City as they crashed out of European football, for this season at least, atop the richest multi-story car park probably in the world last night.

The key to success as far as the Blues were concerned was to get the first goal and add to the two-goal lead they fought so valiantly to achieve in the match of the decade at the Etihad three weeks ago, but it was not to be.

City`s problems commenced an hour before kick-off when Guardiola handed in another inexplicable team sheet, or at least the proposed line-up contained therein. I was happy to see Caballero in goal but not to see Sagna selected ahead of Zabaleta for a match of this magnitude. The rest of the back line contained Stones, Kolarov and Clichy, the latter of which must now be on the home straight in East Manchester.

The added mystery was to position Fernandinho as the sole holding midfielder, pushing forward De Bruyne and Silva with Sane and Sterling out wide. The Mighty Atom was the sole striker.

AS Monaco lined up in a good old-fashioned 4-4-2, using Sidibe and Mendy to push forward into a 2-4-4 designed to overwhelm City in midfield from minute one. They achieve this with almost ruthless efficiency in the early stages, attacking dangerously and unopposed from City`s widemen.

Fernandinho never sits right for me in a "sitting" position in midfield and virtually the first time he was given the ball by Caballero he cost City an early goal against. Instead of using the men ahead of him, he was caught on half way and Monaco quickly and clinically processed the ball down City`s right. For some obscure reason, Sagna was marking space on the opposite side, Mendy got himself a free run at Sane and Aguero before placing in a razor sharp cross to find Mbappe in the mix on the six yard line to fire home in true predator fashion.

With the aggregate score now leaving Monaco only one behind, they went on to totally dominate the first half, overloading the midfield with their assortment of big men leaving Silva and the beleaguered De Bruyne completely out of the time. The reality was that City couldn`t string three passes together as Monaco retrieved the ball quickly and hit the City back line even more quickly.

It was probably amazing that this City defence lasted until 28 minutes without conceding a second goal, but when it came, once against it was with the precision of a surgeon`s knife that the combination of Lemar and Mendy shredded the right side of City`s defence once again before spotting that Fabinho had drifted away from Sterling and the ball in to him was slammed home without asking questions.

City managed to get to the break without further embarrassment. It was a half that had seen nothing in terms of attacking football from a team selected for its attacking prowess. De Bruyne was simply shocking and I hardly recall seeing Silva on the ball. Because Monaco were able to push Sidibe and Mendy forward, Sane and Silva found themselves confronted by two every time they got the ball and Aguero looked lost battling with two and sometimes three defenders.

Change needed to come quickly for City. At the half I would have left De Bruyne in the changing rooms and sent out Yaya. I would have also binned Sagna who had been mainly responsible for the two goals, both times being absent from his position. No wonder Stones, who put in one of his best performances, did not look like a happy camper.

Pep, however is not one for admitting mistakes, judging by the number of times he is "happy". He did however pull De Bruyne back alongside the toiling Fernandinho, giving the team a more 4-2-3-1 look and it immediately looked more solid and began to get involved in a match that was in grave danger of moving away from them.

The chances started to appear. Aguero, Sane and Sterling suddenly found what looked like chasms of space but two good saves by Subasic and a couple of Stoke City-esque blocks kept the Blues at bay.

Silva was getting more involved and Sane was finally attacking only one defender and was getting past him. City needed a goal and it was to arrive in the 71st minute. De Bruyne was at last finding range with his passes as he was getting the ball in more unopposed locations and his searching 40-yarder found Sterling out wide. He turned on the after-burners and cut inside Mendy before drilling in a left foot shot which was too hot for Subasic to handle. His spill went straight to Sane who hammered it straight into the roof of the met. City were once again alive in the contest and you could see Pep screaming at them to continue to press forward, clearly untrusting of his defence. Even Sue let out her best banshee-like screech, likened in some circles to a woman giving birth.

But, and there always is a but where City are concerned, as quickly as De Bruyne became saint, he became sinner. Giving away what can only be described as a stupid free kick, 40 yards wide right, he presented City with one final piece of unnecessary pressure and it was to prove terminal.

With the defensive line holding far too far forward, the free kick was swung in towards the penalty spot and Babayoko bulleted his header beyond Caballero to win the tie for Monaco. Kolarov found himself stuck underneath the ball and there was no resistance from any other blue shirt.

So it was a disappointing end to another relatively poor campaign in Europe, the Barcelona home result apart, from City. Quite frankly the Blues are never going to win anything in Europe with a defence like this one. What would Pep give for wing backs like Mendy and Sidibe, the Ligue 1 equivalents of Walker and Rose, only in my opinion, better? He must look at the ex-Gooner jesters formerly known as Sagna and Clichy and vomit. Kolarov has proved on-and-off that he can play centre back, but for me only Stones should remain.

I can`t help feeling that Yaya would have made a difference. He is city`s man for the big occasions having delivered almost every time he has been asked so to do in matches of this magnitude. But Guardiola persists with the manifestations of De Bruyne who for me has been out of his true form for 6 weeks or so. Yaya would have added the rock-like monster to block up the midfield, moved the ball forward more quickly and with more precision than Fernandinho and De Bruyne, whose first half passing was simply awful.

Additionally I had to feel sorry for Aguero, once again commissioned to toil among three gigantic defenders, but I`ll tell you what…I don`t think, Tevez apart, I have seen a centre forward work so hard without the ball and try so hard on the limited occasions he got it to make something happen. Guardiola would be a lunatic to even consider shedding this footballer come the end of the season. Monaco showed how to play an effective 4-4-2 and Pep should bear this in mind before he considers any kind of life without Sergio.

In reality, city now have only the iconic FA Cup to play for and think from the teams left in the hat the Blues would probably have chosen Arsenal, but there is a lot of work to be done before that competition surfaces again. The Blues now have probably the trickiest triumvirate of matches to come in the Barclays Premier League with Liverpool due to visit the Etihad on Sunday before City go on another Capital Mystery Tour to face Arsenal and Chelsea. I would once have suggested that this was a season-defining run of fixture, but for me City`s season is more or less already defined, although they must maintain sufficient interest in the Premier League to ensure a top-four finish.

I can only see Otamendi, Yaya and Zabaleta as the changes for Sunday`s match with Clichy, Sagna and maybe Fernandinho the victims. Sue has already thrown in the towel as she expects what she calls "My boys" to sacrifice the three points at the Etihad. But when did City last beat Liverpool in the League?

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I love Sergio Aguero to bits and I want him to stay at the club for a long time yet, but I don't think he can walk on water. He may have worked hard last night elsewhere but I hold that he can be held partly at fault for the concession of the first goal. It was a corner - everyone was out of position including Sagna who was, presumably, standing where his coach had instructed him to when defending a corner.

The first goal came after Mendy collected the ball from a Stone's clearance. Mendy then ghosted past Sané and Aguero who gave up chasing him as he entered the penalty area and proceeded to stand still and observe events unfold rather than be alert to the threat posed by Bernardo Silva who was stood, unmarked nearby. When the ball rebounded from Stones's block of Mendy's effort it ran to the unmarked Silva whose pinpoint cross was converted by Mbappe.

A bit more alertness on the part of our striker, a bit more diligence to the overall task (defending isn't just a job for defenders), a move three yards to his left and perhaps, just perhaps, the threat could have been neutralised.

Overall a discouraging and disheartening performance in the first half from the team. KDB was anonymous, Silva failed to get into the game and the front three could rarely retain the ball on the limited times they received it. John Stones has continued his improvement shown in recent games in my eyes - he might actually be thinking "you know what? **ck this 'apprentice centre back" crap, I'm going to take charge a bit more". Good on you John :026:

The real fault came in having regained a foothold then throwing it away with a flawed defensive approach - the high line at the free kick. I have no idea exactly how a defender, running back towards his own goal can do anything other than concede an advantage to an attacker. Baffling.
 
On the free kick Skoorb, I can't recall many that we've conceded this season despite playing that high line. If you watch Caballero when setting up he's screaming at the players to move toward the back post, bunch together and leave no gaps. Watch Kolarov as the kick is taken he's moving toward the kicker which allowed Bakayoko a yard of space behind him and saw him caught under the ball, it was naive on his part I thought.

My point being, I'm not sure it's the tactic that is flawed rather an individual not concentrating enough.
 
Oh and I agree with you re Sagna, he was at the back post for the corner, where Zaba was when he cleared off the line against Huddersfield however where I will criticise him is that he didn't move out in line with the rest of the defence which meant he played Mbappe onside whilst the rest had pushed out to play him off.
 
Good points. Will have to check out the free kick once again. Not sure I was watching the replays during the game. I think I had my head in my hands and was rocking back and forth in my chair :017:
 
Bluedub - 16/3/2017 12:14

Oh and I agree with you re Sagna, he was at the back post for the corner, where Zaba was when he cleared off the line against Huddersfield however where I will criticise him is that he didn't move out in line with the rest of the defence which meant he played Mbappe onside whilst the rest had pushed out to play him off.

Sagna may have been looking at the two Monaco players who were behind him and assumed the offside flag would be raised for them.

I thought how many players from the opposition can be in an offside position and still call the ball legally scored, surely if those 'offside players' had not been in that position Sagna would have played it differently.

Should the offside law be looked into where the number of players in an offside position does interfere with play
 
I'm reminded of Brian Clough's view - "If you're not interfering with play you shouldn't be on the pitch"
 
They definitely influenced his positioning, but we shot ourselves in the foot with the opening 45 and as you said in another thread by Pep not giving them direction just before they went out might have been a mistake.
 
I'm with Clough on this if you're not lying prone you're interfering with play. The rule does my head in.

For example Adam the Llama was a mile offside when Firminho was played in, our centre backs had allowed the Llama to run off and as a result he was alone when Firminho squared it, it's ridiculous. So, so happy when he fluffed his lines, the arrogant little ponce.
 
Why is he an 'arrogant little ponce' - and if anyone was being 'arrogant' surely it was our centre backs 'allowing him to run off' - assuming they'd get an offside decision? Play to the whistle?

It was a classic quote by Clough - Leeds versus the Baggies, remember watching the highlights on MotD, Colin Suggett the player in question if my memory is to be trusted.

 
kennyclementstache - 20/3/2017 13:46

Why is he an 'arrogant little ponce' - and if anyone was being 'arrogant' surely it was our centre backs 'allowing him to run off' - assuming they'd get an offside decision? Play to the whistle?

It was a classic quote by Clough - Leeds versus the Baggies, remember watching the highlights on MotD, Colin Suggett the player in question if my memory is to be trusted.

Why is he an arrogant little ponce? Dunno, you'd have to ask him.

In regards your second question, should all teams stop trying to play the opposition offside? And no, our centre backs weren't being arrogant, they were pushing out to play a player offside ffs.
 
Has the ball been played directly to him (& he made to receive it) rather than Firmino then he would have been offside of course........

.......but for me the fact that he remained in that position and was able to receive the pass from Firmino whilst the defenders were in no position to recover is just daft. He has gained an advantage from being in an offside position (I.e. between the last defender and the keeper) when the ball was played forward. Does my head in too :013:
 
When the rule change first came about Arsenal employed a clever tactic to use it to their advantage, Van Persie would loiter around three/four yards offside, passes over the top would then be played wide for Walcott to chase, if Walcott got there he would then have an unmarked Van Persie ( who had a 3/4 yard headstart on the centre backs )in the box by the time he was in a crossing position.
 
I am with you on this BD and wondered why he was not flagged offside, (I dislike Lallana because he is arrogant and does a lot of underhand fouls) and was offside when the ball was hit and surely as soon as he touches it he is off poetic justice in this case as he made himself like like the tosser he is.

another notch for VTR had it gone in, but had we vtr they would be defending with 10 men.
 
We see dozens of goals every season where the scorer was 'offside' in the first phase of play. It's annoying from a defensive stance, but it certainly leads to a lot more goals
 
It has that effect C but it is not consistent with no clear lines where the player makes a ply for the ball, but here Lallana is in front of goal and his offside initial position gives him an advantage and therefore is interfering with play
 
citizhun - 20/3/2017 17:05

We see dozens of goals every season where the scorer was 'offside' in the first phase of play. It's annoying from a defensive stance, but it certainly leads to a lot more goals

Not too sure about that mate, I think it encourages parked busses as teams that would previously have used an offside line as a tactic further up the pitch now just sit in front of their own goal and allow no space.