The Official Dean Smith Thread
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Alan Hutton seems to confirm suggestions that smith wanted Kelvin Phillips, Maupay & Benrahma but was over ruled by suso.
https://www.footballinsider247.com/...ith-discussed-signing-at-aston-villa-in-2019/
If this is true, i guess we have to cut DS a bit of slack for some of the shite which we signed last summer.
We can’t afford to make the same mistakes this window.
https://www.footballinsider247.com/...ith-discussed-signing-at-aston-villa-in-2019/
If this is true, i guess we have to cut DS a bit of slack for some of the shite which we signed last summer.
We can’t afford to make the same mistakes this window.
Yes, it appears you were right. Let’s hope DS is given more say in transfers from now on and Suso is replaced with someone half decent!
How do the big clubs like Liverpool, Man City etc run player recruitment? Do they have a similar set up to us with a sporting director?
Does the sporting director normally sit above the manager/head coach ?
I’ve always thought it would be logical for the manager / head coach to decide on transfers, after all it’s their job to manage the team which to me, encompasses transfers in / out.
How do the big clubs like Liverpool, Man City etc run player recruitment? Do they have a similar set up to us with a sporting director?
Does the sporting director normally sit above the manager/head coach ?
I’ve always thought it would be logical for the manager / head coach to decide on transfers, after all it’s their job to manage the team which to me, encompasses transfers in / out.
The only thing I would say negatively about that excellent article is that it was very possible back then to make steady progression towards the top.
Yes we could progress a lot further than where we are at the moment but the top six seems well and truly stitched up.
The one big exception though is relatively little Leicester, no disrepect intended, but you have to look at them and say if they can do it with shrewd recruitment, then so can we, with a much bigger fan base, bigger stadium regularly filled and extremely wealthy owners. They havent "cracked" the top six but have managed 1st 5th 9th and 9th and quarter finals of Champions League.
Agree re the instant gratification, its the curse of a generation. Want it and want it now.
Due to FFP and the general situation re Covid it aint going to happen just like that, the Man City, Chelsea days are gone but it isnt all doom and gloom and with some continuity and a few quality signing we could see a big improvement on this season.
Not saying top six, because it wont happen but relatively big strides could be taken with stability at the club and a bit of quality.
Yes we could progress a lot further than where we are at the moment but the top six seems well and truly stitched up.
The one big exception though is relatively little Leicester, no disrepect intended, but you have to look at them and say if they can do it with shrewd recruitment, then so can we, with a much bigger fan base, bigger stadium regularly filled and extremely wealthy owners. They havent "cracked" the top six but have managed 1st 5th 9th and 9th and quarter finals of Champions League.
Agree re the instant gratification, its the curse of a generation. Want it and want it now.
Due to FFP and the general situation re Covid it aint going to happen just like that, the Man City, Chelsea days are gone but it isnt all doom and gloom and with some continuity and a few quality signing we could see a big improvement on this season.
Not saying top six, because it wont happen but relatively big strides could be taken with stability at the club and a bit of quality.
Don't think Alan was that specific. Sure Dean wanted Phillips, Maupay & Benrahma. But the prices being quoted would have raised our £120m spend several notches higher. We were done a bit over Mings but decided it was worth it. We might have bought one of those three but not all of them. By the time Brentford dropped their price for Maupay from £30m to £20m we'd already bought Wesley.
If anybody said no it was Purslow, as he held the purse strings. There was only so much dosh on the table and even then people said we overspent.
If anybody said no it was Purslow, as he held the purse strings. There was only so much dosh on the table and even then people said we overspent.
THis is obviously a very reliable source, Dean Smith to be sacked apparently!!
https://transfer-site.co.uk/shock-a...dean-smith-and-appoint-freshly-fired-manager/
https://transfer-site.co.uk/shock-a...dean-smith-and-appoint-freshly-fired-manager/
THis is obviously a very reliable source, Dean Smith to be sacked apparently!!
https://transfer-site.co.uk/shock-a...dean-smith-and-appoint-freshly-fired-manager/
https://transfer-site.co.uk/shock-a...dean-smith-and-appoint-freshly-fired-manager/
Look at the date.
Thanks Mike - my post came from the heart and I do feel that chopping and changing is not the way forward. Everyone is entitled to an opinion and the debate on VV would be boring without these differences.
I personally believe that Dean Smith is the right man to take us forward and this has nothing to do with him being a Villa fan. I ran a workshop with him last October where he spoke about building a culture within the club and this is not something that can happen overnight. He spoke about positive and negative cultures and how the latter can be toxic to an organisation - we saw that with the 'drinking culture' that was prevalent in the Collins and Dunne era. We have all seen the camaraderie and spirit that was evident in the aftermath of the West Ham game and I know that Dean is well respected in the dressing room.
West Ham is now history - and it will be written as such. What we need now is to move on and build on this episode. The behind the scenes changes have started with Pitarch going and hopefully the signings will be made in a more structured way than the 'scattergun' approach of last season. The academy is has been restructured and the fact that we have signed Barrie and Chuckuemeka is a sign that we are looking to provide a pipeline to the first team for the future.
Dean Smith no doubt will admit that he has learned lessons in the top flight and a number of the current squad have also. Add to this some quality and we are progressing well.
I was playing snakes and ladders with my grandchildren this week and during the game when I landed on the wrong square and went sliding backwards I thought how this might be a metaphor for football in general and Villa in particular. If we had landed on the wrong square on Sunday we would have slipped back down and would have had to start the climb back up again. As it turns out we had a 'good' roll of the dice and climbed up one of the small ladders on the board and we can now continue to progress. What we need to do now is try to avoid the 'snakes' that will inevitably be in our path in the future. We did ride our luck this season, but luck will not see us through next year.
I can't wait to teach the grandchildren to play chess
I personally believe that Dean Smith is the right man to take us forward and this has nothing to do with him being a Villa fan. I ran a workshop with him last October where he spoke about building a culture within the club and this is not something that can happen overnight. He spoke about positive and negative cultures and how the latter can be toxic to an organisation - we saw that with the 'drinking culture' that was prevalent in the Collins and Dunne era. We have all seen the camaraderie and spirit that was evident in the aftermath of the West Ham game and I know that Dean is well respected in the dressing room.
West Ham is now history - and it will be written as such. What we need now is to move on and build on this episode. The behind the scenes changes have started with Pitarch going and hopefully the signings will be made in a more structured way than the 'scattergun' approach of last season. The academy is has been restructured and the fact that we have signed Barrie and Chuckuemeka is a sign that we are looking to provide a pipeline to the first team for the future.
Dean Smith no doubt will admit that he has learned lessons in the top flight and a number of the current squad have also. Add to this some quality and we are progressing well.
I was playing snakes and ladders with my grandchildren this week and during the game when I landed on the wrong square and went sliding backwards I thought how this might be a metaphor for football in general and Villa in particular. If we had landed on the wrong square on Sunday we would have slipped back down and would have had to start the climb back up again. As it turns out we had a 'good' roll of the dice and climbed up one of the small ladders on the board and we can now continue to progress. What we need to do now is try to avoid the 'snakes' that will inevitably be in our path in the future. We did ride our luck this season, but luck will not see us through next year.
I can't wait to teach the grandchildren to play chess
I was playing snakes and ladders with my grandchildren this week and during the game when I landed on the wrong square and went sliding backwards I thought how this might be a metaphor for football in general and Villa in particular. If we had landed on the wrong square on Sunday we would have slipped back down and would have had to start the climb back up again. As it turns out we had a 'good' roll of the dice and climbed up one of the small ladders on the board and we can now continue to progress. What we need to do now is try to avoid the 'snakes' that will inevitably be in our path in the future. We did ride our luck this season, but luck will not see us through next year.
I can't wait to teach the grandchildren to play chess[/QUOTE]
I was thinking along similar lines myself this morning C&B&B. If we had, "slipped back down the snake" to the Championship it would have put us 2 years backwards as a minimum.
Not only could we have become embattled in the Championship, we would have been highly likely to have lost three or four of our best players and would of had to once again go through the lottery of recruitment and building a team. Finally there is the financial element.
As I say, it would have put us back a minimum of 2 years, more likely 3 or 4 years. Instead we should now be able to hang on to our team and build for the future.
How unbelievably fortunate we were in staying up
I can't wait to teach the grandchildren to play chess
[/QUOTE]I was thinking along similar lines myself this morning C&B&B. If we had, "slipped back down the snake" to the Championship it would have put us 2 years backwards as a minimum.
Not only could we have become embattled in the Championship, we would have been highly likely to have lost three or four of our best players and would of had to once again go through the lottery of recruitment and building a team. Finally there is the financial element.
As I say, it would have put us back a minimum of 2 years, more likely 3 or 4 years. Instead we should now be able to hang on to our team and build for the future.
How unbelievably fortunate we were in staying up
Was the other Huddersfield? Because they tanked in their second season 
Don't be under any illusions gents, next season will be equally tough. Don't want to be a party pooper, but a couple of injuries and/or VAR decision at the wrong time could be devastating. Football is played in the real world and not on paper - as we just found out.
Don't be under any illusions gents, next season will be equally tough. Don't want to be a party pooper, but a couple of injuries and/or VAR decision at the wrong time could be devastating. Football is played in the real world and not on paper - as we just found out.
