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The Official Dean Smith Thread

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I'd also like the idea of Andre Villas Boas, currently managing Marsaille and doing very nicely.

They are strapped for cash, likely to have to sell their best players, why not allow their manager to leave - a la Nigel Clough.


AVB has worked miracles to get Marseille into 2nd place this year. All without their best player and the owners trying to start auctions for anyone they can get a few million for. I saw an interview with him recently where he said he wasn't interested in coming back to England.
 
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Everything Poch said is in line with why I have been thinking he would be a good fit for Villa. He's interested in a new project, not just filling in at a top club. Our owners have the enthusiasm and resources to back the sort of project he's looking for, and he probably knows that. He's definitely a top coach, which is what we're looking for. Everybody's linking him with Newcastle, but would he prefer their prospective owners to ours? I doubt it.

If we manage to stay up I think we could get him. It would still take several years to get near the top, but I don't think he's looking for short-term success.

To be honest, some of what DS has said recently makes me think he's preparing for an exit.
 
If we're still in the Premier league then I'd probably say thanks and goodbye to Smith. A premier league club with rich owners, brilliant facilities, brilliant stadium, large fan base and a squad with some talented but inexperienced players should be enough of a hook for a top manager.
I have tried to stay loyal to Smith, but if someone of the experience of Poch came along, if we were still in the Prem then you would have to look at it.
 
I have tried to stay loyal to Smith, but if someone of the experience of Poch came along, if we were still in the Prem then you would have to look at it.

I wanted Deano to be given a season in the Premier League after we were promoted, we've been through most of it, and if we do manage to stay up I think we need to move on.

Smith is a very good manager, but we need to move up a level or we'll never catch up with those above us.
 
Would't Poch expect a big war chest at whatever club he joined. I know our owners are minted but how would that square with FFP?
 
Would't Poch expect a big war chest at whatever club he joined. I know our owners are minted but how would that square with FFP?

Maybe he'd be more interested in sustained support over a number of years.

"Football is not about budgets and money," he said.

"Of course, they help, but for me it is about sticking with the human capital. After that, everything is possible and you can deal with anything.

"When you put your objectives down and you start to work for them, you need to be creative and clever in the way you are going to design it. Sometimes, you need to play the same game with different cards."


Sounds like us!
 
This talk about Poch is vexing me I'm afraid. We are talking about AVFC not being ambitious, not going for it , acting small time , not getting a big manager in. Yet apparently getting a failure like Poch ticks that box.
Remind me what is about Poch that makes him a big name other than he managed a so called big club?. What is it that he has won in Spain, at Saints and even more so at Spurs. I'm not having it that he spent less or couldn't compete. He has had more riches than any other Spurs manager in history, a ground the envy of the world and didn't even win an EFL cup . When the likes of Citeh, United, Chelsea and The Dippers were falling over each other trying not to win the league he couldn't beat Leicester to the league title. So what did Spurs do stick with a loser or get a serial winner in?. Step up Jose Mourinho. Spurs acted like a big club right there. Everton have getting another winner in - Ancelotti . He can show his medals.

Sorry I'm old fashioned , show me your medals. Right now Alex Mcleish has won more than Poch. 7 years he has been in this country not one solitary cup. So far just a specialist in failure and of course he is banging on about 'projects' or whatever that silly term is . He realises that he isn't getting a big job soon.

The irony of us needing to think big yet see Poch as the answer is not lost on me I'm afraid.
 
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This talk about Poch is vexing me I'm afraid. We are talking about AVFC not being ambitious, not going for it , acting small time , not getting a big manager in. Yet apparently getting a failure like Poch ticks that box.
Remind me what is about Poch that makes him a big name other than he managed a so called big club?. What is it that he has won in Spain, at Saints and even more so at Spurs. I'm not having it that he spent less or couldn't compete. He has had more riches than any other Spurs manager in history, a ground the envy of the world and didn't even win an EFL cup . When the likes of Citeh, United, Chelsea and The Dippers were falling over each other trying not to win the league he couldn't beat Leicester to the league title. So what did Spurs do stick with a loser or get a serial winner in?. Step up Jose Mourinho. Spurs acted like a big club right there. Everton have getting another winner in - Ancelotti . He can show his medals.

Sorry I'm old fashioned , show me your medals. Right now Alex Mcleish has won more than Poch. 7 years he has been in this country not one solitary cup. So far just a specialist in failure and of course he is banging on about 'projects' or whatever that silly term is . He realises that he isn't getting a big job soon.

The irony of us needing to think big yet see Poch as the answer is not lost on me I'm afraid.

Well, he did get to last year's Champion's League final. Didn't get a huge amount of support from Levy but Spurs had their best spell since the days of Bill Nicholson. All while the PL got more and more competitive. Think I'd settle for Villa doing the equivalent.
 
Well, he did get to last year's Champion's League final. Didn't get a huge amount of support from Levy but Spurs had their best spell since the days of Bill Nicholson. All while the PL got more and more competitive. Think I'd settle for Villa doing the equivalent.

If things were going so well why was he sacked then ?.
I have obviously misunderstood then. Because when its talked about showing ambition and thinking big I presumed we were talking about doing these things with an eye on winning things.

Always fascinating how fans nowadays judge qualifying for a cup tournament as 'success'. So you would 'settle' for villa competing at the top end of the table but not winning anything. Back to the MON days then?. Interesting view.
If spurs are the model we need to look at emulating, then we appoint the manager that they deemed not good enough to take them where they desire to go ?.
 
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