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You make a very good point; hardly any value is put on the togetherness and kindred spirit in the team, which more often than not, compensates for that missing bit of quality.
Southgate's no dickheads policy (e.g leaving out Ben White) was of great importance to the happiness, cohesiveness hence performances of the team.
 
The bit I disagree with is in do think the FA would ask the question to all 3. All 3 will likely say no, but they should ask the question

The Pep one intrigues me. There isn’t a club job he can take now which would fulfill his ambitions. Maybe one more CL, possibly, but I see his next role as the manager of Brazil or England.

I think his Catalonian roots stops him from the Spanish job (possibly) but I do see his next role as an international manager
Its not that his Catalonian roots would stop him from taking the job; I doubt the Spanish FA would give the job to a Catalonian.

You need to be careful what you wish for with Pep; his monstrous ego does not cope too well with criticism.
 
Farage was married to a German, and ensured that he has post- Brexit EU rights of free movement before all of his shenanigans taking the rights of the rest of us away. But who cares what Farage thinks anyway, especially the FA?
A lot of people will
 
I thought Walker was being treated harshly on here and now see that he's been picked in the team of the tournament.

I know a couple of goals came from his side but I think he was drawn across covering for others and played the percentages.
 
Its not that his Catalonian roots would stop him from taking the job; I doubt the Spanish FA would give the job to a Catalonian.

You need to be careful what you wish for with Pep; his monstrous ego does not cope too well with criticism.
That too regarding the Spanish FA
 
It will be Potter.

He's free

He's uncontroversial

His reputation with people and the media far outstrips his actual achievements.

His reputation as a progressive coach far outstrips his actual achievements

He is the archetypal FA man
And when it all goes wrong The Sun can make him look like either Bill or Ben (one of the flower pot men)
 
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It’s a strange situation to see Southgate go, because while he has obviously been very successful, and though there’s a significant chance the next manager will do worse than him, it feels like exactly the right time for him to depart and hopefully find someone who can work on taking us that one extra step - a step that I feel would always have eluded Southgate who, despite being a nice bloke with all the right intentions, never really built more than a functional side that ground its way to the business-end of tournaments. England felt like a team very much in his image; inexpressive, safe, serviceable, determined but not dynamic.

It’s a question really of whether you would have wanted to stick or twist - stick with the safety of solid results and nearly moments, or twist in the hope of finding somebody who can unlock the attacking talent that seemed to spend most of the tournament in the gaol of its own half, struggling to emerge from the rigidity of our defensive structure. Maybe Southgate would have eventually won a tournament, but there was always a feeling that any top team was beyond us in a knockout game. It’s a problem really that England have struggled to overcome for a generation - how to beat truly world-class nations when everything is on the line. It’s not unique to Southgate that that final obstacle remains.
How was the team for the final defensive?

It wasn't a back five.

Mainoo was hooked for Bellingham to drop in as an 8, near the end.
Shaw was half-fit but played more as a LWB.
Walker caught upfield for their 2nd goal, cos he was pushing to support our attack.

Lets hope Potter rejects this defensive mindset and unleashes the dogs of war (line stolen from @Thewolf/jimmygordon)
 
How was the team for the final defensive?

It wasn't a back five.

Mainoo was hooked for Bellingham to drop in as an 8, near the end.
Shaw was half-fit but played more as a LWB.
Walker caught upfield for their 2nd goal, cos he was pushing to support our attack.

Lets hope Potter rejects this defensive mindset and unleashes the dogs of war (line stolen from @Thewolf/jimmygordon)
"Dogs of war" isn't attacking necessarily

It's just hard bastards getting stuck in all over the field

Joe Royle started it at Everton
 
How was the team for the final defensive?

It wasn't a back five.

Mainoo was hooked for Bellingham to drop in as an 8, near the end.
Shaw was half-fit but played more as a LWB.
Walker caught upfield for their 2nd goal, cos he was pushing to support our attack.

Lets hope Potter rejects this defensive mindset and unleashes the dogs of war (line stolen from @Thewolf/jimmygordon)
Actually old boy, its "let slip the dogs of war" but Wolf wouldnt know that, he is not big on literature.