The Amish Don't Get Autism?

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A Wise Man (once sat next to him)
I don't know enough to comment greatly and having not had children have never had this difficult decision to make.

I know if I'd had kids I'd have done my level best not to allow them to be fed the manufactured sugar and additive full puke that some pass for food though.


http://realfarmacy.com/amish-no-autism/
 
I'd be careful here. I agree with the diet and healthy living part, but to make big jumps about Autism linked to vaccines from 2 cases is dangerous.

There is no proof of a link between the 2. Autism is on the rise everywhere, even in Countries without the MMR vaccine.
 
My Grandfather was never diagnosed but looking back we would be 99.9% certain he was on the autistic spectrum.

When Sir Dennis jnr was diagnosed with aspergers we convinced my parents to get a diagnosis for my brother who was 41 at the time and he was also diagnosed with aspergers so I would say in our case it is hereditry.

 
Years ago there was such a stigma attached to any form of Illness its no wonder thousands went undiagnosed when no one actually wanted to go looking.
 
We've messed with the usual evolutionary process, sirden. It might sound cruel, but in most species these genes wouldn't survive long enough to get passed on.

The ability to diagnose better is also a factor in the numbers.

Vaccination is so important, but it does mess with Nature.
 
Yes I must admit I am not knowledgeable enough about genetics etc , it just seems obvious to us the three family members of different generations have aspergers.

Mind you as the specialist said to us , we are all autistic to some degree or another.
 
Possibly. We all have our routines and things we can't touch and things we don't like the texture of etc which are all symptoms. Some people take it to further extremes like my Grandfather for example if you asked him if he wanted a cup of tea at five to three he would say no , but when it was 3 o'clock on the dot he would go and do himself one.
 
That article, used in some documentaries etc apparently, isn't true...

http://www.snopes.com/the-amish-dont-get-autism/

The other figure you'd need and wouldn't be able to get (obviously) is how many would have died from the illnesses the immunisations guard against.

I am a bit surprised that immunisations are deemed necessary for the likes of chicken pox though.

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But diet wise/lack of exercise also, people are killing themselves and giving themselves all sorts of man made illnesses/diseases.
 
There is a debate on life expectancy for Amish dudes here

https://skeptics.stackexchange.com/questions/20199/is-life-expectancy-of-an-amish-person-same-as-average-in-us

What is the average life expectancy of Amish men and women and what is the number one cause of death in the Amish communities?

It is the same as for all persons in the United States, no different than for other groups of people. Answer coordinated by THE BUDGET [Editor: According to US Government Statistics, the average life expectancy for Caucasian men is 74.3 and for Caucasian women is 79.9. The leading cause of death is heart disease.]

(it goes on)
 
Strangely according to this, their diet isn't great but they do burn off the calories with a physical life

http://www.worldlifeexpectancy.com/the-amish-obesity-studies

and one last one

https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2010/11/101103135237.htm
 
The consumption of so much sugar has contributed to many illnesses over the years. Bad science is to blame.
 
Not sure if it is from The Men Who Made Us Thin or the Men Who Made Us Fat programme but sugar being taken out of a report due to the strong ($$$$) sugar lobby in the USA and having the finger pointed directly at fat (we've had threads on this before, it's probably somewhere in the very long how to lose fat thread) has led massively to obesity.

The fat being taken out of food for 'diet' and 'low fat' foods led to more sugar going in to replace the taste fat gave the so called food.

Men who made us fat part one:

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x2cxvfg

men who made us thin part one:

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x2cuv9f
 
Everything in moderation, and natural is better than man made. I don't think you can go far wrong if you live by this. I don't think that's too hard, is it?
 
Let's not turn this into a Sas v Heath row please gents... like all take a nice deep breath and smile a little!

It evidently is hard Heath... because you can see for yourself the massive rise in obesity and man made illness.

With some intelligence and thought, no not hard at all. With no good education on food, food science, sport, sports science and excercise in general and backed up with massive companies marketing campaigns selling what they pass off as food, it appears pretty difficult for people though.

For me, it is simple and despite a barrage of health (non food etc related! LOL) problems, my 'you are getting old, come have an MOT' tests recently illustrated what exercise and good food does, less than a 1% chance of heart attack or stroke, perfect bloods (nurse said the bloods of an athlete which made me smile as I've had a poor brain ache year!) and the right fat profile.

Some though, they don't have an interest in this and are literally spoon fed the junk. It's got worse with the internet as well as anyone can claim to be an expert and the diet fads or 'you must eat this' fads catch on so quickly because 'everyone' seems to be looking for a shortcut on something that should be simple - but takes effort.
 
Education is what it keeps coming back to. It was the main thrust of the contraception thread. The problem, as I see it, is that some seem to take pride in ignoring, even disrupting, said education. There are others that just don't respond to the cast we teach.

Education has to start with the parents, now. They need to set an example.

You don't need to run a marathon. Walking us great for you.
 
That is the problem, many of the parents were duped or not educated and they are also obese... then they follow the same pattern with their kids.

And I do think generations have become lazier and they aren't willing to get off their xbox playing arses to do some exercise. Earlier generations were saved from needing that as they had physical jobs and had to walk / cycle to work... etc etc...

It's a shame, there have been so many cuts to local community/sports centres. I know before I moved our municipal tennis courts became Sainsbury car park overflow for instance! I used to spend hours there as a kid playing tennis.
 
Is safety, or perceived safety, a factor? I was out all the time. Rode my bike everywhere, played football or cricket. These days, despite the fact we actually live in a safer world now, little Johnny isn't allowed out on his own.

The open spaces are fewer in number, but there are still some. Get your kids to join a golf club. It doesn't cost a lot for kids, and a 6 mile walk does you wonders. It's like an informal crèche at my club.
 
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