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That court case again

The reality is whoever the owners of Sheffield United were they would have had to find £40-50m to buy the Properties. That would have included ALK Capital who KM had arranged to sell the Club to and was so confident of winning he invited them to the Southampton game.

Where would the American franchise have got the money from? more than likely the Premiership money or equity loans as has been stated. The arrangement allowed for the Club to be purchased in 20% instalments so they were hardly minted.

This is just post Judgement bluster in an article that doesn't cover all the facts of the case. KM needs to retire gracefully take his money for the properties and move on. As for the Prince he needs to be looking for improved sponsorship deals and investments to take us to the next level. So far he has made all the right noises but he can't rest on his laurels.
 
Bulmer1889 said:
Let’s have a show of hands who thinks Kev would have let Chris spend close on 70 million this season yea or nay
ill start its a nay from me
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Nay from me also mi owd pal,but let's see what our club looks like if/when the Prince has been owner 5 years or so.We could be well established in't prem or(hopefully not)we could go darn and be up shit creek wiout a paddle cos the club/Prince has spent more than we could afford.Roll on Sunday,anyone goin wrap up well it sounds like it's gunna be shite weather(Very windy&wet) UTMPB
 
Without the Prince we wouldn't have been promoted to the PL. If we had managed it solely under McCabe we'd be looking at 20 million invested tops, "I've given Chris a competitive budget that along with a use of the loan system should allow us to retain our position in the PL".

The Guardian already covered the dispute/court case so I imagine they're regurgitating it again as part of their campaign to stop the Saudis buying Newcastle. It does prove how bad McCabe's judgement is, trying to rip off a Saudi Prince isn't the wisest of life choices.
 
Raumdeuter said:
Without the Prince we wouldn't have been promoted to the PL. If we had managed it solely under McCabe we'd be looking at 20 million invested tops, "I've given Chris a competitive budget that along with a use of the loan system should allow us to retain our position in the PL".

The Guardian already covered the dispute/court case so I imagine they're regurgitating it again as part of their campaign to stop the Saudis buying Newcastle. It does prove how bad McCabe's judgement is, trying to rip off a Saudi Prince isn't the wisest of life choices.
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Mr McCabe's judgement wasn't bad when he appointed St Christopher mi thinks.:whistle: UTMPB
 
Rod Currie said:
Mr McCabe's judgement wasn't bad when he appointed St Christopher mi thinks.:whistle: UTMPB
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Speed, Adams, Wilson, Weir, Adkins ??? Half a decade in division three.

McCabe lucked out with CW, but if there wasn't that club connection he wouldn't have gone near him.
 
Rod Currie said:
Mr McCabe's judgement wasn't bad when he appointed St Christopher mi thinks.:whistle: UTMPB
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Give me 500 darts whilst blindfolded and I'll hit the board at least once.
Let's be right, nobody could have foreseen how succesful Wilder would be.

At the time he was very much the cheap option, a fan, an ex player and somebody who would gladly work here under McCabes lack of ambition or interest.
 
I just hope the prince doesn't lead us down the same road as this guy.
Took over in 2010, Spent big on players such as Van Nistelrooy, Martín Demichelis & Santi Cazorla. Reached the Champs league (1st time in their history) 3yrs. later.
2018 relegated and needing a boost in finances in the region of €5-6m to carry on operating in the second div beyond the new year.
Currently 17th in div 2 and the owner facing court proceedings.
http://www.surinenglish.com/sport/202001/24/police-carry-hour-search-20200124102835-v.html

https://www.football-espana.net/82968/malaga-mismangement-owners-fail-make-transfer-profit
 
Raumdeuter said:
Speed, Adams, Wilson, Weir, Adkins ??? Half a decade in division three.

McCabe lucked out with CW, but if there wasn't that club connection he wouldn't have gone near him.
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As I recall, most of those appointments (and Clough...) were welcomed. Bearing in mind the resources at our disposal, I think they represented the best choices available at the time, and the logic of appointing them was clear to see.

We shouldn't judge those choices by the success CW has had. CW's success makes them all look pathetic, but then he's doing that to 90-odd managers in the league right now.
 
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FatherKnowsBest said:
As I recall, most of those appointments (and Clough...) were welcomed. Bearing in mind the resources at our disposal, I think they represented the best choices available at the time, and the logic of appointing them was clear to see.

We shouldn't judge those choices by the success CW has had. CW's success makes them all look pathetic, but then he's doing that to 90-odd managers in the league right now.
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I do find it amusin that when Mr McCabe got summat r8 it's all darn to luck for some.I agree not many were moanin at the appointments when they were made,Wilson wasn't welcomed at first but he soon won over the majority in that first season and i've no doubt without the Ched incident we would've gone up that first season.No one denies that Mr McCabe made plenty of mistakes,they've been mentioned enuff but whether the McCabe haters like it or not St Christopher wunt have been our saviour without Mr McCabe and that my fellow BLADES is a FACT.Nar let's enjoy what's left of this season cos i think most BLADES think we've dun ok dunt we?:giggle:UTMPB
 
FatherKnowsBest said:
As I recall, most of those appointments (and Clough...) were welcomed. Bearing in mind the resources at our disposal, I think they represented the best choices available at the time, and the logic of appointing them was clear to see.

We shouldn't judge those choices by the success CW has had. CW's success makes them all look pathetic, but then he's doing that to 90-odd managers in the league right now.
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The whole way the Speed Blackwell situation was managed by McCabe was appalling. Leaving Speed with the impossible task of playing attractive winning football with Blackwell's squad.

Adams' career was on a downwards trajectory. Desperation appointment which saw us relegated.

Wilson's appointment was an affront to logic, a specialist in failure when it came to promotions. His time at Bristol City should have been a massive red warning light to McCabe.

It was these three seasons that landed us in the mire, three years of poor senior management decisions and budget slashing from McCabe. There were better managerial options available those three years.
 
Football fans are very fickly. Should we be bothered that Human rights in Saudi Arabia are poor ?. Did Chelsea fans worry about Russian human rights, are Man City fans bothered about human rights in UAE ?. Of course they not as human rights are just as bad in Russia, China, UAE and a number of other countries.
The next thought is who has the most money McCabe of the Prince ?. The answer is that none of us really know the answer , we are all working on rumours.
I have always run my life and decisions on take as i find. McCabe was a Blade so by default many, including me, assumed he was the better bet. However in the short time the Prince has been in control i would argue that the management of the club from top to bottom has improved. The realtionship between the Price and CW appears very strong and i dont think we could have expected any better backing in the transfer market, in our first season back. Ask Daniel Farke about that. Of course all this hangs in balance on SUFC retaining its Premiership status and the whole deck of cards could come crashing down with a relegation.
I dont think that is going to happen as we have a managed plan that has both an element of risk with good transfer backing but keeping this within a relatively tight budget by premiership standards.
I do have some syphathy with Kevin McCabe but as a fan he needs to conclude this as quick as possible and let us move on, allowing his legacy to end in a very positive manner and with his dignity intact.
 
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Blade for Life said:
Football fans are very fickly. Should we be bothered that Human rights in Saudi Arabia are poor ?. Did Chelsea fans worry about Russian human rights, are Man City fans bothered about human rights in UAE ?. Of course they not as human rights are just as bad in Russia, China, UAE and a number of other countries.
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The thing is that we like to preach to the rest of the world about our wonderful Western Democracies and look down our noses at people who live different lives by different rules to us. Personally, I think this is usually very simplistic, idealistic, and typical of left wing angst. It really annoys me that with so much injustice in this country, people are much more bothered by what they interpret as injustices in other cultures. One of the worst countries for injustice is that bastion of democracy, The United States.
 
FatherKnowsBest said:
The thing is that we like to preach to the rest of the world about our wonderful Western Democracies and look down our noses at people who live different lives by different rules to us. Personally, I think this is usually very simplistic, idealistic, and typical of left wing angst. It really annoys me that with so much injustice in this country, people are much more bothered by what they interpret as injustices in other cultures. One of the worst countries for injustice is that bastion of democracy, The United States.
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Not if you are an American FKB.
Although Trumo seesm to have had a rough ride lately
 
FatherKnowsBest said:
The thing is that we like to preach to the rest of the world about our wonderful Western Democracies and look down our noses at people who live different lives by different rules to us. Personally, I think this is usually very simplistic, idealistic, and typical of left wing angst. It really annoys me that with so much injustice in this country, people are much more bothered by what they interpret as injustices in other cultures. One of the worst countries for injustice is that bastion of democracy, The United States.
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I could not agree more, ask the people in Iraq and Libya if their lives are better, after we have interferred.
 
Chips1889 said:
Not if you are an American FKB.
Although Trumo seesm to have had a rough ride lately
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They have the worlds biggest prison population, of which 37% is black. If you are black in the USA, then you are more than twice as likely to be sent to jail. Racial discrimination is rife. Access to healthcare and the legal system for the poor is largely denied. All Trump has done is to tap into it, with very clever messages 'Make America Great Again' was a slogan for Richard Nixon, as was 'The War on Drugs'. As with Labour here in the UK, the Democrats are more bothered about their idealistic infighting than beating Trump.
 
FatherKnowsBest said:
They have the worlds biggest prison population, of which 37% is black. If you are black in the USA, then you are more than twice as likely to be sent to jail. Racial discrimination is rife. Access to healthcare and the legal system for the poor is largely denied. All Trump has done is to tap into it, with very clever messages 'Make America Great Again' was a slogan for Richard Nixon, as was 'The War on Drugs'. As with Labour here in the UK, the Democrats are more bothered about their idealistic infighting than beating Trump.
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Could they be actually guilty of a crime FKB?
We know slogans work, like "get Brexit done" but he must be judged on his first term and he'll be voted in again with, so they say, 42% of the black vote.
Never been to the USA so I don't know if law abiding black citizens are treated badly - just one thought, you don't hear about racism againt Asians and they have the hightest standard of living (or so I have read).
 
Chips1889 said:
Could they be actually guilty of a crime FKB?
We know slogans work, like "get Brexit done" but he must be judged on his first term and he'll be voted in again with, so they say, 42% of the black vote.
Never been to the USA so I don't know if law abiding black citizens are treated badly - just one thought, you don't hear about racism againt Asians and they have the hightest standard of living (or so I have read).
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We only have to goback 60 years to Jim Crow laws, lynchings, shootings and beatings of black people. Today you are far more likely to be shot by a police officer if you are black., far more likely to be held in jail or prison. Of course the prisons are privately owned and run by big corporations who constantly lobby for harsher sentencing. Its good for their share-price.

Trump will get in again. His message is heard and understood by more people than the neo-liberal infighting of the Democrats. The parallels to the UK couldn't be clearer. To get elected you don't need 100% of the votes. He knows where his 51% is and keeps that message strong. When you've got Nancy Pelosi, the Speaker of the house of representatives, tearing up his speech behind him as he gives it...its just fatuoius nonsense, as is the bid to impeach him. They should try and get some policies that resonate with the people and beat Trump at the ballot box. What do they do? Come up with a leader no one will vote for and a set of policies that do nothing for the average Joe and Jane, then sit and fiddle with themselves incredulous that the stupid racist people voted for Trump. (sound familiar...)
 
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