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Summer transfers rumours, speculation, news

king_dezeeuw06

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Chelsea youngster Henry Lawrence is set to complete a loan move to AFC Wimbledon tomorrow.

It will initially be a six month loan but likely be extended in January.

He had offers from Wigan and other teams in the Championship but he will get good playing time at the Dons. #CFC⁹
That's really disappointing, I knew Wimbledon were chasing him before we were linked but it seemed like we pinched him. The lad looks a real prospect.

I wonder if the location played a big part, he'd not have to leave home to go to Wimbledon and it would be easier for Chelsea to keep tabs on him if he's in staying in the London area.

Also wonder if Wimbledon guarentee him a starting place while we said he'll be competing with an established pro in Darikwa.
 
That's really disappointing, I knew Wimbledon were chasing him before we were linked but it seemed like we pinched him. The lad looks a real prospect.

I wonder if the location played a big part, he'd not have to leave home to go to Wimbledon and it would be easier for Chelsea to keep tabs on him if he's in staying in the London area.

Also wonder if Wimbledon guarentee him a starting place while we said he'll be competing with an established pro in Darikwa.
I'm kinda foreign (lol) to this sort of deals but could it be a positional thing? Like, that he'd be more of a protagonist going forward playing as a winger in Wimbledon whereas here he'd be a RB?
 

king_dezeeuw06

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McGrath missed the previous St Mirren games due to injury but came back today and scored a penalty. He is a penalty king.

So clearly nothing has moved forward since our bid was rejected.

Rotherham are close to agreeing a fee of about 300k with Kilmarnock for right wing back Shaun Rooney. He really stood out to me when I was looking at Kilmarnock clips to see what Kerr was like. He's only 24, big, strong, quick - dominant in the air and bombs forward from defence. If we arent getting Lawrence then I'd seriously be looking to hijack Rotherham move - I think he's going to do well down here a d have good resale value. I'm really surprised at that price no one in the Championship is in for him.
 

king_dezeeuw06

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I'm kinda foreign (lol) to this sort of deals but could it be a positional thing? Like, that he'd be more of a protagonist going forward playing as a winger in Wimbledon whereas here he'd be a RB?
Maybe. The only indication of why Wimbledon over us I saw was 'he will get good playing time there' so sounds most likely Chelsea have got more assurances from the Wimbledon manager over a starting place for him. Maybe they even agreed to a clause like Liverpool often put in that their young players have to play a certain percentage of games.

Also only 6 month loan deal while I think we were after a year. So it seems like Chelsea have the idea to send him to Wimbledon start every week and impress Championship clubs and then send him to one of them and get starts at a higher level. Maybe we wanted him to stay throughout so we wouldnt have to worry about replacing him in January while Wimbledon happy to have first half of season.

Disappointed we won't see him at attacking the DW as I thought he looked a very exciting signing.
 
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C_Latic

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Big blow that. To be honest, it's been a disappointing last couple of weeks in terms of missing out on players. Season starts in less than two weeks, tick tock...
 

gazlatic

Vital Youth Team
Big blow that. To be honest, it's been a disappointing last couple of weeks in terms of missing out on players. Season starts in less than two weeks, tick tock...
Long way to go yet, you'll only start to see loan movement with any kind of regularity now and the loan market will be ultra competitive this season with many teams not having funds for permanent transfers. I don't think many expected us to have built an entire squad by the opening day. TBH I'd be surprised if we had what Leam may consider to be a full squad by the end of January.
 

ZAKKY

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Wigan Athletic are reportedly eyeing up a move for Rangers winger Jordan Jones. Here, we take a closer look at what a deal could involve.



What is Jordan Jones’ price tag?

As per Transfermarkt, the Redcar-born winger is valued at £540,000.


His highest previous valuation on the site was £675,000 but as Rangers signed him on a free transfer in 2019, they will be making a profit as long as he leaves for some sort of fee.

What is his reported salary?

As of 2020, Jones is on a wage of £9,100-a-week at Ibrox, netting him £473,200-a-year (SalarySport).

What would he bring to Wigan Athletic?

As a right-footed player often operating on the left-wing, Jones is a threat when cutting in, be it to shoot or pick out an opponent.


The Northern Irish winger can operate on the opposite side and has featured in attacking midfield, too.


His dribbling and ability on the ball can make him a difficult task for defenders to deal with, while his eye for a cross can cause problems for central defenders.
 
Maybe. The only indication of why Wimbledon over us I saw was 'he will get good playing time there' so sounds most likely Chelsea have got more assurances from the Wimbledon manager over a starting place for him. Maybe they even agreed to a clause like Liverpool often put in that their young players have to play a certain percentage of games..
I think that may have played a large part in it - Lets not forget that whilst Latics were great for Chelsea & Reece James, 12 months later Dijon Sterling barely got a sniff (& rightly so if stories about his attitude are anything to go by) so it's clear that Latics will only play them if the managers thinks they're good enough so if the Dons have agreed to an appearance related loan deal or pretty much guaranteed he'll start every week then I get him going there
After some of the times Latics have had their fingers burnt by these guaranteed to start if fit deals, I'm glad if we no longer agree to them

WImbledon having a relationship with Chelsea (they sold their old ground to them) & being in the same/ish area may have played a part too meaning if injured he can easily get treatment from Chelsea's team & it's easier for him to train with Chelsea too if they wanna see how or if he's improving
 

king_dezeeuw06

Vital Football Hero
I think that may have played a large part in it - Lets not forget that whilst Latics were great for Chelsea & Reece James, 12 months later Dijon Sterling barely got a sniff (& rightly so if stories about his attitude are anything to go by) so it's clear that Latics will only play them if the managers thinks they're good enough so if the Dons have agreed to an appearance related loan deal or pretty much guaranteed he'll start every week then I get him going there
After some of the times Latics have had their fingers burnt by these guaranteed to start if fit deals, I'm glad if we no longer agree to them

WImbledon having a relationship with Chelsea (they sold their old ground to them) & being in the same/ish area may have played a part too meaning if injured he can easily get treatment from Chelsea's team & it's easier for him to train with Chelsea too if they wanna see how or if he's improving
Another aspect of that is Wimbledon just signed one of Chelsea's best youngsters Luke McCormick, that deal seemed like it took a long time to do and involved some concessions over large sell on fees to secure him so they have just established a working relationship. So Chelsea probably are on good terms with them.
 

king_dezeeuw06

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Wigan Athletic are reportedly eyeing up a move for Rangers winger Jordan Jones. Here, we take a closer look at what a deal could involve.



What is Jordan Jones’ price tag?

As per Transfermarkt, the Redcar-born winger is valued at £540,000.


His highest previous valuation on the site was £675,000 but as Rangers signed him on a free transfer in 2019, they will be making a profit as long as he leaves for some sort of fee.

What is his reported salary?

As of 2020, Jones is on a wage of £9,100-a-week at Ibrox, netting him £473,200-a-year (SalarySport).

What would he bring to Wigan Athletic?

As a right-footed player often operating on the left-wing, Jones is a threat when cutting in, be it to shoot or pick out an opponent.


The Northern Irish winger can operate on the opposite side and has featured in attacking midfield, too.


His dribbling and ability on the ball can make him a difficult task for defenders to deal with, while his eye for a cross can cause problems for central defenders.

Apparently Sunderland were told he is 250k to buy when he went on loan last season.

I can't see him being on 9k a week, as he came from Kilmarnock where he wouldn't have been on much, so i can't see Rangers needing to offer such a large pay rise to get him in the door when probably half of that would've been a huge increase. That site that claims to know wages seems to make it up as it goes half the time.
 

SwindonLatic

Vital Squad Member
Another aspect of that is Wimbledon just signed one of Chelsea's best youngsters Luke McCormick, that deal seemed like it took a long time to do and involved some concessions over large sell on fees to secure him so they have just established a working relationship. So Chelsea probably are on good terms with them.
He wouldn’t have been one of their best youngsters if Chelsea were prepared to sell him. He was on loan at Bristol Rovers last season and I don’t remember him pulling up tress like Connor Gallagher did so likely he is one of their youth products who they felt wouldn’t make the step up like Reece and Mason Mount.
 

SwindonLatic

Vital Squad Member
Big blow that. To be honest, it's been a disappointing last couple of weeks in terms of missing out on players. Season starts in less than two weeks, tick tock...
Why is it a big blow? None of us know if he’s any good. Let’s see how he does for Wimbledon and then we’ll know if it’s a big blow or not. He won’t be anywhere near the level Reece was
 

ZAKKY

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Apparently Sunderland were told he is 250k to buy when he went on loan last season.

I can't see him being on 9k a week, as he came from Kilmarnock where he wouldn't have been on much, so i can't see Rangers needing to offer such a large pay rise to get him in the door when probably half of that would've been a huge increase. That site that claims to know wages seems to make it up as it goes half the time.

It's being reported he is free to leave Rangers for a fee short of 1 million, which is proving a problem for Sunderland
 

king_dezeeuw06

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He wouldn’t have been one of their best youngsters if Chelsea were prepared to sell him. He was on loan at Bristol Rovers last season and I don’t remember him pulling up tress like Connor Gallagher did so likely he is one of their youth products who they felt wouldn’t make the step up like Reece and Mason Mount.
He was very good at Brisol, he's not in the exceptional class of James or Mount but still highly regarded. He has lots of potential and I think will likely end up a Championship player down the line. Really surprised he ended up at Wimbledon.
 

C_Latic

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Why is it a big blow? None of us know if he’s any good. Let’s see how he does for Wimbledon and then we’ll know if it’s a big blow or not. He won’t be anywhere near the level Reece was
If you play for Chelsea youth you’re a bloody good player, especially at League One level. End of story.

Now linked with another ex Sunderland player. Do we actually have any scouts, or are we just trying to sign everyone Max Power recommends?
 
Definitely been very slow on transfers considering we need 6-7 players according to Leam. Hopefully we are not flirting with players and missing out. We really need to see some movement. Hopefully not too light at the back for Sunderland, and I do think the players we are linked with are paper talk. Does seem like one dimensional scouting with the same clubs associated. Will see.