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I heard that difference in taste was purely down to the water as it used to be brewed using a natural spring underneath where the brewery was based in Manchester & whatever is used down in Wales has changed the taste

My own personal preference is a nice, hoppy, cloudy thick New England IPA - I struggle to drink the big brewery cans or pub pints these days. Too fizzy & tasteless to be honest.

Can't understand this obsession at the moment for whacking fruit in beers or sours etc..

Bitters & traditional real ales are too warm & flat for me and I accidentally bought a can of craft stout the other week. Saved it till last but drank it in the end & can honestly say it tasted like I imagine adding the dregs of your flat pint to an end of night ashtray would
Correct the water was from a spring under the brewery which gave Boddies it's distinct taste and appearance.
I believe that the main reason that the Strangeways brewery was shut was that Inbev or whatever they were called at the time had excess brewing capacity after losing the licence to brew Heineken as Heineken were taking it in house a move that basically rendered the beer undrinkable and ranks with the Schlitz debacle in the States when the brewery changed the recipe for their lager and what was the best selling lager in the US the sales fell off a cliff.
 
Yep, agreed. When we were in Boston, a couple of years ago, I had one of the best pints I've ever had - Wachusett Wally. Absolutely gorgeous.

NB: Actually, I had a few of 'em !
I'll keep a look out for it. Where I've been getting my cans from over the last few years has started to stock too many double & triple IPA's & they're too strong tasting for me (if I wanted to drink Special brew strength ales I'd buy that as it's much cheaper!!) & fruit beers (if they have to stick fruit in it then it can't be that good in the first place) so I'm looking for alternative suppliers
 
Correct the water was from a spring under the brewery which gave Boddies it's distinct taste and appearance.
I believe that the main reason that the Strangeways brewery was shut was that Inbev or whatever they were called at the time had excess brewing capacity after losing the licence to brew Heineken as Heineken were taking it in house a move that basically rendered the beer undrinkable and ranks with the Schlitz debacle in the States when the brewery changed the recipe for their lager and what was the best selling lager in the US the sales fell off a cliff.
Who'd have thought that a spring based in an area that used to be a slum & was next to a prison would produce such good water?? The big brewers don't care & see everything purely in numbers

I'd always just thought that they'd put the brewery next to the prison to taunt the prisoners!!
 

moonay

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I'll keep a look out for it. Where I've been getting my cans from over the last few years has started to stock too many double & triple IPA's & they're too strong tasting for me (if I wanted to drink Special brew strength ales I'd buy that as it's much cheaper!!) & fruit beers (if they have to stick fruit in it then it can't be that good in the first place) so I'm looking for alternative suppliers
I don't remember it being so specifically "orangey" (as mentioned in some of the reviews) but even so, it was lovely.

https://hoppyboston.com/2017/06/26/wachusett-wally/

https://www.beeradvocate.com/beer/profile/20/264968/
 

hindleymonwafc

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Well if you supped Greenalls you didn't have to worry about going home smelling of ale.
Walkers was nice I worked behind the bar in what used to be a cracking pub in the seventies the Ben Jonson at Goose Green it was a Walkers house probably supped more than I served.
Walkers also did packs of little stubby bottles called Light Peter and Brown Peter which were delicious, I can still smell the proper ale aroma of these.
How strange...yesterday afternoon I passed the Ben Jonson and noticed it still had the Walkers logo on the side. But it was the building to the side of the now closed pub. Was this the original Ben Johnson?
 

TRUE BELIEVER

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How strange...yesterday afternoon I passed the Ben Jonson and noticed it still had the Walkers logo on the side. But it was the building to the side of the now closed pub. Was this the original Ben Johnson?
No. the Ben Jonson has always been were it is now, although nowadays it is sadly closed. The two houses next to it were owned by the brewery at one time and I believe were once the stables, although that may just be something my Dad told me and not accurate.

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Actually disregard that bullshit above as a quick search on the web reveals that it is believed that the 2 cottages were in fact the original pub.


The pub was recorded under Pemberton as "Ben Jonson" in Baines Lancashire 1824 when the landlord was Peter Aspinwall. The earlier building appears to have been the cottages, still standing, next door to the building in use to day. Last time I looked the name was still visible painted on the side of these cottages. I would have thought that it WAS named after the poet and playwright. In the early 1800s, Rev. Edmund Sibson describing his investigations into the route of the Roman Road from Wigan to Wilderspool, recorded that:"..the ridge of the road appears again, very plainly in the Puet Meadow, in front of the Ben Jonson public house.." so there has probably been a hostelry on the site for some time!
 
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hindleymonwafc

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No. the Ben Jonson has always been were it is now, although nowadays it is sadly closed. The two houses next to it were owned by the brewery at one time and I believe were once the stables, although that may just be something my Dad told me and not accurate.

Edit:

Actually disregard that bullshit above as a quick search on the web reveals that it is believed that the 2 cottages were in fact the original pub.


The pub was recorded under Pemberton as "Ben Jonson" in Baines Lancashire 1824 when the landlord was Peter Aspinwall. The earlier building appears to have been the cottages, still standing, next door to the building in use to day. Last time I looked the name was still visible painted on the side of these cottages. I would have thought that it WAS named after the poet and playwright. In the early 1800s, Rev. Edmund Sibson describing his investigations into the route of the Roman Road from Wigan to Wilderspool, recorded that:"..the ridge of the road appears again, very plainly in the Puet Meadow, in front of the Ben Jonson public house.." so there has probably been a hostelry on the site for some time!
Was looking at it TB...it is still clearly visible on the cottage gable end and it also says Ben Jonson at the top.
 
Well if you supped Greenalls you didn't have to worry about going home smelling of ale.
Walkers was nice I worked behind the bar in what used to be a cracking pub in the seventies the Ben Jonson at Goose Green it was a Walkers house probably supped more than I served.
Walkers also did packs of little stubby bottles called Light Peter and Brown Peter which were delicious, I can still smell the proper ale aroma of these.
Had an excellent pint of Greenalls after their brewery tour, back in the day.
 

TRUE BELIEVER

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Had an excellent pint of Greenalls after their brewery tour, back in the day.
The Griffin at Wilderspool, opposite the brewery was the Brewery Tap and served the best pint of their bitter you could get. The landlord there was specially selected as they used the pub to showcase their beers and he was trained to keep the ale as it was intended. Apparently it was not the easiest of beers to keep and temperature of the cellar and cleanliness of the lines was very important, hence in so many other outlets it tasted sour.

They always had a decent Mild though and that was not as difficult to keep.
 
Who'd have thought that a spring based in an area that used to be a slum & was next to a prison would produce such good water?? The big brewers don't care & see everything purely in numbers

I'd always just thought that they'd put the brewery next to the prison to taunt the prisoners!!
Would have thought that the reason the brewery was there was because beer was safer to drink than water and a new brewery was needed to cater for the many mills and factories that were springing up in the area.
I still believe beer is safer to drink than water, especially after having dealings with United Utilities.
 
The Griffin at Wilderspool, opposite the brewery was the Brewery Tap and served the best pint of their bitter you could get. The landlord there was specially selected as they used the pub to showcase their beers and he was trained to keep the ale as it was intended. Apparently it was not the easiest of beers to keep and temperature of the cellar and cleanliness of the lines was very important, hence in so many other outlets it tasted sour.

They always had a decent Mild though and that was not as difficult to keep.
Was that not the Saracens Head which is I think now a Lees pub?
 
I stand corrected, mixing my Griffins and Saracens Heads up.

The Griffin I was thinking of is near the Saints old ground at Knowsley Rd. and did a cracking Sunday Carvery back in the day.
The most annoying thing about Greenalls was that they bought up a number of small regional brewers and shut their breweries then decided that competition from the national brewers was getting too hot then shut Wilderspool to concentrate on retail.
 
Have a pi
Douglas bank. Holts pub. On Woodhouse Lane. Cracking. Pint. If it’s still open. And cheap
Have a pint for me in there at the first home match John, unfortunately I can't take up my season ticket for the first time in ages as my immune system is still compromised following medical treatment and despite having had two jabs have been advised that it's not worth the risk of mixing yet, hopefully be back next season.