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Nick Real Deal

Vital Football Legend
I guess a lot of you have done your ankle at some time over the years. I did my right one when 24, I just done my left 30 years later. Agony, gone purple, been to quacks, not broke but grade 3 sprain. Ice treatment, anti inflamatories, leg up above heart, 3 days rest. Fecking projected 3 months until fully healed.

From a footballers point of view, how long out ?
 
If it's exactly as you describe, with the right rehab regime, probably 4-6 weeks to walk ok again - max..

Some weakness in the ligaments may well linger on sometime after - but that will all depend on how disciplined and dedicated you are in your rehab.

Actually, if it's really bad, believe it or not you might have trouble with it for almost a year!!

This says it all better than I can:

http://www.bupa.co.uk/individuals/health-information/directory/s/sprained-ankle?tab=FAQs#textBlock214226
 
I had my ankle of my standing leg rolled under me pretty badly this year spraining it and hurting my knee in the process. I couldn't put weight on it for a week min. So I practically sat still all day with my leg iced up but unlike that link above I was advised not to keep it compressed. It was basically explained to me that the compression is simply blocking the flow of fluids to the affected areas and that compression should only be used when you are putting weight on it.

Another thing my teams physio did for me, I'd never came across this before, ever couple of days he put the ankle under high compression so that the fluid causing the swelling was pushed out and then released the compression so new fluid could reach the affected area.

I was walking within 2 weeks, but I probably shouldn't have been doing so but I simply needed to walk to places for uni/work. I was back training 4 weeks later, but took it easy for the first week until I had a bit of strength back to the area. Then back to playing ultimate with in 5.

Mind you, in hindsight I probably rushed back as I had a big tournament coming up...
 
meee93 - 28/8/2014 23:09

I had my ankle of my standing leg rolled under me pretty badly this year spraining it and hurting my knee in the process. I couldn't put weight on it for a week min. So I practically sat still all day with my leg iced up but unlike that link above I was advised not to keep it compressed. It was basically explained to me that the compression is simply blocking the flow of fluids to the affected areas and that compression should only be used when you are putting weight on it.

Another thing my teams physio did for me, I'd never came across this before, ever couple of days he put the ankle under high compression so that the fluid causing the swelling was pushed out and then released the compression so new fluid could reach the affected area.

I was walking within 2 weeks, but I probably shouldn't have been doing so but I simply needed to walk to places for uni/work. I was back training 4 weeks later, but took it easy for the first week until I had a bit of strength back to the area. Then back to playing ultimate with in 5.

Mind you, in hindsight I probably rushed back as I had a big tournament coming up...
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My daughter is a dancer and a gymnast - she also managed to roll her ankle and rushed back, was also told by her physio not to use compression - she was back on the mats after 6 weeks, but now some 6 months later she has an operation to look forward to as because of the lack of compression (this is according to her surgeon/consultant) the scans show scar tissue has formed around the ligament(s) and it now restricting her movement and is being trapped in the movement and the joint and giving her severe pains..

So, if any physio tells you not to use compression, I'd be wary!

Anyway,, hope it doesn't become a problem for either of you.
 
I hope that's not going to cause problems for her long term, Ex. I used to dance and had to quit after my knee injury and op. But from the sounds of it, my knee was a bit more serious than your daughter's ankle.
 
oh dear...maybe I best go back to the doctors then...

Or maybe I'll just wait till the off season..only two/three months to go..whats the worst that can happen..*cough*kyle walker....
 
My foot has turned purple over a large area down the outside and across the base of the toes. I have a tubi grip on and walked around probably too much on it today buying antiques. When I took my boot off it revealed the bruising had spread to my toes.

I need to be more patient , the pain I had subsided overnight, I did experience one jelly moment today, like fluid moving in the ankle, quite disconcerting.

I am no athlete anymore but walk a fair bit and lift heavy pieces of furniture , this is hindering me but I have to be careful not to make it worse now.
 
Did my ankle last year in Uganda, second day there, turned it badly (suddenly) in an unseen water trough in the dark. It swoll up like an elephants foot. I felt my foot getting tight in my shoe immediately. I nearly fainted twice with the pain. When I took my shoe off it was like a balloon. It wasn't broken but it looked like ligament damage to the hospital when I got home 3 weeks later. I had bruising from my toenails all the way up to the bottom of my calf. My foot was almost pure black and then yellow up to the calf. But it has taken about a year to properly mend and for the stiffness to go and the flexibility to fully return. I'm pretty fit at 66, having played a lot of football and squash when a kid but was surprised at the rehab period. If you're younger, probably not so long rehab.
 
Tel , I guess age does make a difference. A pattern is starting to build now already. Quite often the rehab is protracted and perhaps the importance of being aware of the problems involved could help .

Being a fairly common sporting injury I figured there would be a fair bit of knowledge. Thanks guys, as Ex has said an appreciation of the impact of injury on a player is not easy. When you think of the injuries to Thud and Sandro , Kabs too, it's remarkable they can perform as they are. Imagine Ledley, he played on for years knowing he was buggered.
 
I constantly roll my left ankle over in football. Have done it so many times now I must be double jointed or something because I just carry on playing. A bit sore over the next couple of days but fine to play the following week. This probably happens once every couple of months. Same ankle so implies some weakness/flexibility there.
 
Welshtel - 29/8/2014 21:31

Did my ankle last year in Uganda, second day there, turned it badly (suddenly) in an unseen water trough in the dark. It swoll up like an elephants foot. I felt my foot getting tight in my shoe immediately. I nearly fainted twice with the pain. When I took my shoe off it was like a balloon. It wasn't broken but it looked like ligament damage to the hospital when I got home 3 weeks later. I had bruising from my toenails all the way up to the bottom of my calf. My foot was almost pure black and then yellow up to the calf. But it has taken about a year to properly mend and for the stiffness to go and the flexibility to fully return. I'm pretty fit at 66, having played a lot of football and squash when a kid but was surprised at the rehab period. If you're younger, probably not so long rehab.
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It's probably nothing to do with your fitness, more to do with the way that ligaments lose their elasticity as you get older - most especially if you played sports later on in life..

Injuries like that are a bugger even when younger it can take literally years to finally 'feel' normal even if like me you've do intensive rehab after you've done it.

Hope it's all good now.
 
Nick Real Deal - 29/8/2014 22:27

Tel , I guess age does make a difference. A pattern is starting to build now already. Quite often the rehab is protracted and perhaps the importance of being aware of the problems involved could help .

Being a fairly common sporting injury I figured there would be a fair bit of knowledge. Thanks guys, as Ex has said an appreciation of the impact of injury on a player is not easy. When you think of the injuries to Thud and Sandro , Kabs too, it's remarkable they can perform as they are. Imagine Ledley, he played on for years knowing he was buggered.
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Just out of interest - keep us informed of your progress....best of luck with it.
 
Welshtel - 29/8/2014 21:31

Did my ankle last year in Uganda, second day there, turned it badly (suddenly) in an unseen water trough in the dark. It swoll up like an elephants foot. I felt my foot getting tight in my shoe immediately. I nearly fainted twice with the pain. When I took my shoe off it was like a balloon. It wasn't broken but it looked like ligament damage to the hospital when I got home 3 weeks later. I had bruising from my toenails all the way up to the bottom of my calf. My foot was almost pure black and then yellow up to the calf. But it has taken about a year to properly mend and for the stiffness to go and the flexibility to fully return. I'm pretty fit at 66, having played a lot of football and squash when a kid but was surprised at the rehab period. If you're younger, probably not so long rehab.
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Just reading that made me feel a bit sick. Blood and guts, I'm fine. Bones and joints, no ta.
 
Sprain update from a recovery time point of view.

8 weeks in and stability much better but still pain on flexing and at night dull aching.

Bad news is I just did my right and I'm scared to take my boot off. It's not as bad as the left but it fecking hurt. Uneven concrete turned it over.

Makes me sound like a doddery old codger these incidents , just unlucky.

From a sporting point of view I wouldn't be playing on either.

As I sat eating my donalds big breakfast feeling sorry for myself. A guy got out of his car in the carpark on crutches, thanks mate, that's all I need, could be me soon !!
 
Nick,

as you say, just unlucky, or it could be you've over-compensated with your right and that's what the cause of that 'accident' is..!

sounds like you've got a long haul recovery on your hands...keep working at it..
 
Ex, I cant limp anyway, pain is equal in both, just walking like an old timer, very embarrassing.

I was getting in the car so left leg in , right Anchored on unstable , uneven broken concrete, ankle turned . I held onto the car door frame to stop me going down.

What is interesting is that the pain is equal to the left which has had 8 weeks to mend. So the right I guess is a partial sprain. The right is second time, did it almost 30 years ago.

Both ankles have been done on uneven surfaces, worth keeping your eyes peeled.
 
Hope you have a good recovery mate. Sounds totally shit. I was fortunate enough to never do my ankle when playing football. Did my hammy a couple of times though.
 
One nights sleep and the right overtook the left for discomfort factor. My left was the original about 8 weeks ago. While I was walking with two dodgy ankles the left felt worse than the right after just two days.

Sleep healing is quite remarkable and taken for granted. I went down with Fibromyalgia or ME a few years ago. There is no cure. It's basically chronic muscle fatigue that can strike any part of the body or all of it. For me in the begining it was pretty much all over but manifested itself more in the heart and lungs which caused the doctor problems as for 6 months they investigated my heart.

Eventually they got the diagnosis right after having a wire poked up my groin into my heart.....nice ....and finding out my heart was ok.

The specialist told me there was no cure but good sleep would help. That's third stage deep sleep, the only sleep that repairs the body.Total shut down. What goes on during this repair I don't know but it's one of the wonders of nature. Sleep is very important to all of us, especially me.

If I don't get enough I will seize up muscle wise too early the next day.

If any normal person abuses their body by not enough quality sleep, something will give.

 
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