Solar Flares & Possible Effects

TuBBz

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A few years ago the BBC show horizon made a program about Solar flares and their potentially catastrophic effect they would have on planet earth

Now please do not think this is an end of the world thread because it is not but it is a thread to highlight this phenomenon and its potential dangers

Here is a clip of the aforementioned Horizon episode

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For anyone interested in watching the full episode its available here

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x1133rv

I've been reading about an event that is going to happen in the next 7 years that would basically send us back into the dark ages as a massive flare from our sun would act like an EMP and fry the electrics on planet earth

Now think about it for a second, if every piece of tech that you own/use/need suddenly went dead, what do you think would happen to society? I then saw this article this morning

A tech-destroying solar flare could hit Earth within 100 years

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The sun could be one of our biggest threats in the next 100 years. If an enormous solar flare like the one that hit Earth 150 years ago struck us today, it could knock out our electrical grids, satellite communications, and the internet. A new study finds that such an event is likely within the next century.

“The sun is usually thought of as a friend and the source of life, but it could also be the opposite,” says Avi Loeb at Harvard University. “It just depends on circumstances.”

Loeb and Manasvi Lingam, also at Harvard, examined data on other sun-like stars to see how likely solar “superflares” are and how they might affect us.

They found that the most extreme superflares are likely to occur on a star like our sun about every 20 million years. The worst of these energetic bursts of ultraviolet radiation and high-energy charged particles could destroy our ozone layer, cause DNA mutations and disrupt ecosystems.

But in the shorter term, the researchers say that less intense superflares of a type we know can happen on our sun could still cause problems. In 1859, a powerful solar storm sent enormous flares towards Earth in the first recorded event of its kind. Telegraph systems across the Western world failed, with some reports of operators receiving shocks from the huge amounts of electrical current forced through the wires.

Tech wipeout

“Back then, there was not very much technology so the damage was not very significant, but if it happened in the modern world, the damage could be trillions of dollars,” says Loeb. “A flare like that today could shut down all the power grids, all the computers, all the cooling systems on nuclear reactors. A lot of things could go bad.”

Loeb says an event as powerful as the 1859 one could cause about $10 trillion of damage to power grids, satellites and communications. A flare just a bit stronger could even damage the ozone layer.

Previous work has shown that such an event seems likely to occur in the next century, with a 12 per cent chance of it happening in the next decade, but nobody seems to be all that worried, Loeb says. Asteroid impacts get all the attention when it comes to life-threatening space events, but Loeb and Lingam found that superflares would be just as deadly and are just as likely.

“I’m not lying awake in bed at night worrying about solar superflares, but that doesn’t mean that someone shouldn’t be worrying about it,” says Greg Laughlin at Yale University.

Last month, Loeb and Lingam came up with one potential way to protect Earth from superflares both large and small: an enormous loop of conductive wire between us and the sun that could act as a magnetic shield and deflect flares’ particles away.

Unfortunately, launching such a shield into space would cost upwards of $100 billion. “I think that seriously diverting resources to build a wire loop in space would not be the best way to spend money,” says Laughlin. “But thinking more about how solar superflares work and getting a sense of how our sun fits in with its peers would be a very valuable effort.”

Read More Here:

https://www.newscientist.com/article/2150350-a-tech-destroying-solar-flare-could-hit-earth-within-100-years/?utm_content=buffer88d15&utm_medium=social&utm_source=facebook.com&utm_campaign=buffer
 
It's one of those things that's so big and so unpredictable that it's impossible to worry about. He compares it to a huge asteroid hitting the Earth which is perfectly possible but impossible to do anything about.

Space is such a fascinating place. Hopefully, we'll do a bit more space exploration in the coming decades.
 
One day the universe or nature, or whatever, will probably throw something our way. It's no doubt how the planet started so I'd think at some point it could well be the way it ends.

I think I'd rather be vaporised than live without facebook though :3:

No, seriously frightening thought starting again in that respect.
 
I'm thinking what life would be like if we suddenly had no power

Like how long would it be before total chaos reigned?
 
there'd be no life without power (from the sun if that's what you meant)
so the chaos would arrive quickly

here's a couple of careless stars
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-41640256
 
He means electricity etc.

Wouldn't take long at all for society to break down would it TuBBz? Frightening thought!
 
TuBBz - 17/10/2017 19:49

I'm thinking what life would be like if we suddenly had no power

Like how long would it be before total chaos reigned?

I guess it would depend on how badly damaged the grid was. I'm sure it would be a top priority for governments to restore power, like after a storm. If it was a global thing, it would be chaos.

I guess some of my prepper mates would be happy. :19:
 
TuBBz - 17/10/2017 10:49

I'm thinking what life would be like if we suddenly had no power

Like how long would it be before total chaos reigned?

There was a TV drama series on Sky a while back about this very thing (i.e., no power) - Revolution.

Our entire way of life depends on electricity. So what would happen if it just stopped working? Well, one day, like a switch turned off, the world is suddenly thrust back into the dark ages. Planes fall from the sky, hospitals shut down, and communication is impossible. And without any modern technology, who can tell us why? Now, 15 years later, life is back to what it once was long before the industrial revolution: families living in quiet cul-de-sacs, and when the sun goes down lanterns and candles are lit. Life is slower and sweeter. Or is it? On the fringes of small farming communities, danger lurks. And a young woman's life is dramatically changed when a local militia arrives and kills her father, who mysteriously - and unbeknownst to her - had something to do with the blackout. This brutal encounter sets her and two unlikely companions off on a daring coming-of-age journey to find answers about the past in the hopes of reclaiming the future.

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt2070791/

I imagine life would be absolutely nothing like this :3:
 
Think there was a similar piece a few years ago, but it more hinged on an increase in flare activity would cause downstops and interruptions on a wifi/electrical basis and those more prone to headaches/migraines (especially those with air pressures from memory) would be in for an interesting week as an increase was expected.
 
I've been reading about the increase in suicide attempts and depression among teenagers that are correlated to smart phone usage. I'm on board with a solar flare, for sure.
 
As long as I can still log on to vital villa I don't give a shit.

(Presumably, Mr Fear has a contingency plan for continuation of vital villa business in the event of a catastrophic solar flare)

 
He'll come round to your house and shout abuse and interesting facts through the letter box Melon lol

Any chance of a link Brownie?
 
It's ok, guts and girls. The giant volcano under Yellowstone will send us into an arctic winter first.

http://news.nationalgeographic.com/2017/10/yellowstone-supervolcano-erupt-faster-thought-science/
 
mike_field - 17/10/2017 23:48

He'll come round to your house and shout abuse and interesting facts through the letter box Melon lol

Any chance of a link Brownie?

But of course!

http://time.com/4974863/kids-smartphones-depression/