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Most people would associate the confederacy with being in favour of slavery and so arguably some people will see the Confederate leaders those statues represent as being associated with slavery.
Yes. Most people would - because the victors write the history.

Have you read the Declarations of Independence of each of the seceding States ?
At least one would confirm all the pre-conceived ideas about slavery being the trigger. It is quite explicit in treating black slaves as mere property not people.

Other Declarations mention slavery too - alongside the right of States to make their own laws - as promised by the US Constitution - in a sort of sliding scale with one only hinting at the Federal anti-slavery law.

So for what were the thousands of ordinary Confederate soldiers fighting ?
They did not have slaves.
And how many Officers had slaves ?

So for the vast majority, surely it is a fair bet that they thought they were fighting for Independence first - with slavery being a very poor excuse ?

In the occasional German small village, there is a Memorial to WW1 soldiers. No 'glorification'. Just similar sentiments to ours.

Northern Italy has some WW2 cemeteries. Rows of headstones, similar to British War Graves. One or two have flowers placed.

In the UK, we have learned to distinguish between the Wehrmacht and the SS.

I mention these because Civil War memorials - often only remembering the dead - have been described by opponents as 'hate monuments'. Many have been defaced. Some damaged.

As often, things are not 'all good' versus 'all bad'.
 
Sky news are covering the increasingly violent scenes in London.
Whitehall and surrounding streets affected but I'd say the police won't be overwhelmed from what I've seen.
What happens in the suburbs when it's dark , might be a different.
I imagine we will wake up to examples of mindless vandalism over the next few days.
 
just reading stats , more white people have been killed by cops in the USA for each of the past 3 and a half years. Surely that cant be right. And 90% of those killed were armed. again surely that cant be right.
 
What about the minor infractions such as jumping a red light, a busted taillight or tinted windows? How many of them lead to unnecessary police violence and even death for black people in USA?
Dunno Trev , there's no point in asking me.
But I can't imagine it's many. It's easy to exaggerate in these circumstances. Plenty of bad stuff going down in America , on that we can all agree.
 
mindless vandalism VG , organised criminal damage by the feral youth of today. What do we expect when they are encouraged and brainwashed by a left wing education system. As you teachers are responsible for this generation and the previous generation of savages then it's only fair u pay for all the damages. When u read some of the comments made by so called hate preachers sorry teachers on this site, then u understand where things have gone wrong.
 
mindless vandalism VG , organised criminal damage by the feral youth of today. What do we expect when they are encouraged and brainwashed by a left wing education system. As you teachers are responsible for this generation and the previous generation of savages then it's only fair u pay for all the damages. When u read some of the comments made by so called hate preachers sorry teachers on this site, then u understand where things have gone wrong.

The hatred runs deep within you young skwalker, strong is the darkside within you lol.
 
The hatred runs deep within you young skwalker, strong is the darkside within you lol.
The hatred mob is too busy punching police officers in the face. Normal people , (the silent majority) will get increasingly upset about our emergency services being assaulted.
But he's right about the indoctrination of our children.
 
The hatred mob is too busy punching police officers in the face. Normal people , (the silent majority) will get increasingly upset about our emergency services being assaulted.
But he's right about the indoctrination of our children.
And they were even very nice by not turning up in all that nasty "riot gear" too. You know, the stuff that can protect them from injury when being assaulted but looks aggressive and scary 😳
 
And they were even very nice by not turning up in all that nasty "riot gear" too. You know, the stuff that can protect them from injury when being assaulted but looks aggressive and scary 😳
I noticed , it was very much softly softly , and someone gets a black eye for their part in a considerate response ☹️
 
A telling point in the News tonight. US police have spent generations policing discrimination and it's not going to change overnight.
 
Trump is done.

And now Chauvin's charge is upped and the other three have been charged.

Even in a world of lies, distraction and dissembling mass movements and mass shifts of opinion matter. It shouldn't have come to this but it has.
 
funny when black person kills a black person then black lives dont matter. When a black person kills a white person black lives dont matter. Strange when one white person kills one black person , black lives matter. How about if this is correct black people should stop killing each other. Just a suggestion
 
funny when black person kills a black person then black lives dont matter. When a black person kills a white person black lives dont matter. Strange when one white person kills one black person , black lives matter. How about if this is correct black people should stop killing each other. Just a suggestion

Maybe all people should stop killing each other.
No condemnation of the actual killing and understanding of the reason behind the demonstrations from your gang. Its ok just keep supporting your gang, same attitude, who cares if its black on black thats why there is not a push to stop the knife crime in the uk.