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Should sabz stay

Should sabz stay


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Why does he deserve time?

What has he done to deserve playing dice with our championship status?

What on earth makes him worth that?

It would be one thing if he has got us until the playoffs for the first time in a decade. But he didn't

Why does he deserve time?

Because I don't think that barely any manager we've had in the last 20 seasons would have done as well as he did last season with the squad that we had.

As we've probably had more than 20 managers in that time, do you want to wait for 20 more to find someone who can do as well?
 
He's talking shite. He has a valid point in principle but he's incapable of finding a real world application for it. There's no depth, nothing relevant to our scenario. At least when I took his position I actually used statistical analysis of clubs who fired or stayed with a manager to back myself up.

He can't cope with numbers so puts his fingers in his ears and humms to himself.

A little like his hard left socialist of gis refusal to download an app that could save lives because he fears Cummings will be personally tracking him, despite the fact it's sat on GitHub for any idiot to look at.
 
He's talking shite. He has a valid point in principle but he's incapable of finding a real world application for it. There's no depth, nothing relevant to our scenario. At least when I took his position I actually used statistical analysis of clubs who fired or stayed with a manager to back myself up.

He can't cope with numbers so puts his fingers in his ears and humms to himself.

A little like his hard left socialist of gis refusal to download an app that could save lives because he fears Cummings will be personally tracking him, despite the fact it's sat on GitHub for any idiot to look at.
You need to stop being such a **** mate tbh.
 
The problem is this exact argument happens every time. Every time 'its different this time its much worse than usual so we have to sack the manager again.'

Lamouchi has shown he can do well. Its going badly at the moment, but imo its looking up given the players we have signed very recently.

You don't magically lose skills. Lamouchi has shown us he can organize a team to be difficult to beat, and I don't think he has 'lost' that because that doesn't happen. If he has lost the players, that is a reason for him to go, but most of our players are new so he would have been going some to lose the dressing room already.

Leave him in place, this will turn around.

edit: Also has anyone thought about what happens if we sack Lamouchi and then our new manager wants to sign some players in January or next Summer?
I disagree...Lamouche set up a team to defend well and counter. The games we won were by fine magrins and then teams discovered ways to counter his tactics and that is that!! He is incapable of adapting to counter them so keeps trying the same old (poor) tactic.
He was the same at previous clubs.
Started well then couldn’t win to save his life.
 
The trouble is every game we lose makes the hole that Sabri finds himself in, that bit deeper, and that bit harder to dig himself out of.
The trouble is, that when the hole is too deep, he will be gone and we, as Forest fans, have to suffer, especially if God forbid, we end up in a lower division...
 
Be very careful what you wish for.Forest have form for appointing no mark managers, a case in point with the rumours on twitter re Sa Pinto or whatever his name is. If Forest were going to out and get a decent replacement I would say go for it but we all know it is not very likely in practise.
 
i think hes won 20 and lost 20 and drew 15 or v close to that so it hasnt been a great winrate, obviously that goes hand in hand with the lack of goals.
To think that last year we were all quite unanimous that our back 5 was as good as any in the league tho is unreal.
 
I'm struggling here.

It's clear something needs to change, the football served up since we beat Leeds has been among the most boring I've seen Trentside; but we missed out on the playoffs by goal difference. Do we want to get promoted playing Brentcelona-type football, or is the style unimportant if the victories are coming?

I pay my money to watch Forest and be entertained and hopefully have success to boot. We are currently dire with a slim chance of success.

I understand the logic of form is temporary, etc. but how long is temporary?

The argument that changing managers all the time, very rarely brings success, is nigh on impossible to argue against, so stability is key, but when do you say enough is enough?

I was raging when we went 0-2 down again and would have championed a half-time sacking. I am now thinking who?

Have a care with what you wish for. Unless we have a manager we want, not one to merely replace a sacked manager (I.E an upgrade) then what's the point?

Unless we have a Howe, or Hughton, lined up then I am willing to give him until the next international break, as replacing him with a manager who has had 10 jobs in the last 3 seasons, is out of the frying pan logic.
 
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I'm struggling here.

It's clear something needs to change, the football served up since we beat Leeds has been among the most boring I've seen Trentside; but we missed out on the playoffs by goal difference. Do we want to get promoted playing Brentcelona-type football, or is the style unimportant if the victories are coming?

I pay my money to watch Forest and be entertained and hopefully have success to boot. We are currently dire with a slim chance of success.

I understand the logic of form is temporary, etc. but how long is temporary?

The argument that changing managers all the time, very rarely brings success, is nigh on impossible to argue against, so stability is key, but when do you say enough is enough?

I was raging when we went 0-2 down again and would have championed a half-time sacking. I am now thinking who?

Have a care with what you wish for. Unless we have a manager we want, not one to merely replace a sacked manager (I.E an upgrade) then what's the point?

Unless we have a Howe, or Hughton, lined up then I am willing to give him until the next international break, as replacing him with a manager who has had 10 jobs in the last 3 seasons, is out of the frying pan logic.

Join the mob Strett, we're all in the same boat in spite of differing opinions, and not one of us has the answer.
These days Forest is not much of a club, can't afford decent players, probably couldn't interest a decent manager even if we could afford him. And definitely doesn't deserve the excellent fan base which it's lucky to have. Coupled to that we are owned by a bloke who I've probably lost faith in.
At times it's been better than that but the good times have been few and far between.
Like every other poster on here though I can't change my support, it's a lifetime thing.

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Be very careful what you wish for.Forest have form for appointing no mark managers, a case in point with the rumours on twitter re Sa Pinto or whatever his name is. If Forest were going to out and get a decent replacement I would say go for it but we all know it is not very likely in practise.

I'll have you know that Sa Pinto is our 46th choice, but we will end up with him.
 
ive changed my mind. ive wanted him out for months but i gotto give him credit for fighting to be here and hearing experienced players like Artur say the manager was spot on in preparation and the players desperate to perform for him, then im inclined to want to battle on through it with them.

Maybe this IS whats been missing here, sticking through the character building times and seeeing the rewards of that. Covids took some urgency off things, fook it, let him see out this year and next too.
 
i think hes won 20 and lost 20 and drew 15 or v close to that so it hasnt been a great winrate, obviously that goes hand in hand with the lack of goals.
To think that last year we were all quite unanimous that our back 5 was as good as any in the league tho is unreal.

Only one of em left tho!
 
ive changed my mind. ive wanted him out for months but i gotto give him credit for fighting to be here and hearing experienced players like Artur say the manager was spot on in preparation and the players desperate to perform for him, then im inclined to want to battle on through it with them.

Maybe this IS whats been missing here, sticking through the character building times and seeeing the rewards of that. Covids took some urgency off things, fook it, let him see out this year and next too.

Jesus h. You have seen the light!

Another 3-4 games losing with no progress and he has to go but the attitude above should be our start point imo.
 
I'm struggling here.

It's clear something needs to change, the football served up since we beat Leeds has been among the most boring I've seen Trentside; but we missed out on the playoffs by goal difference. Do we want to get promoted playing Brentcelona-type football, or is the style unimportant if the victories are coming?

I pay my money to watch Forest and be entertained and hopefully have success to boot. We are currently dire with a slim chance of success.

I understand the logic of form is temporary, etc. but how long is temporary?

The argument that changing managers all the time, very rarely brings success, is nigh on impossible to argue against, so stability is key, but when do you say enough is enough?

I was raging when we went 0-2 down again and would have championed a half-time sacking. I am now thinking who?

Have a care with what you wish for. Unless we have a manager we want, not one to merely replace a sacked manager (I.E an upgrade) then what's the point?

Unless we have a Howe, or Hughton, lined up then I am willing to give him until the next international break, as replacing him with a manager who has had 10 jobs in the last 3 seasons, is out of the frying pan logic.

Bloody hell, calm rational and objective. Is this cornflake on the wind up using his stretts account?