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Sergio Reguilón: I was in Ange Postecoglou’s plans, then I wasn’t
Brentford full back discusses his Tottenham exit, calling Messi a “flea”, his battle to control his emotions and why he rates Thomas Frank as highly as Zidane, Mourinho and Simeone
Reguilón has had a whirlwind season that has taken him from Spurs to Manchester United and then Brentford
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Matt Dickinson
, Senior Sports Writer
Thursday March 07 2024, 8.00am, The Times
As Sergio Reguilón reflects on the coaches he has played under — Zinédine Zidane, Antonio Conte, José Mourinho, Erik ten Hag and Diego Simeone among them — it feels like a Who’s Who of European managerial big beasts. The Spain defender has insightful words about them all, and happily explains why Thomas Frank fits in that company.
It is perhaps only with mention of Ange Postecoglou that his perma-smile wanes, because Reguilón is still mystified by being frozen out at Tottenham Hotspur. “One day is ‘yes’, next day is ‘no’,” he says of finding out that he was no longer part of the club’s plans. “I didn’t understand and still don’t understand the situation.”
That exile is how the 27-year-old left back has come to have a whirlwind season in which he was loaned out by Spurs, fell in love with Manchester United for four months and now gives his all for Brentford, reflecting with remarkable candour on a turbulent period.
By his own admission a man of lurching emotions, Reguilón reveals that he went into Frank’s office last week to apologise for a “shit performance” away to West Ham United in the 4-2 defeat. “Not my level,” he told his head coach. “I’m so sorry, I feel so bad.”
Noting my surprise at his honesty, he says: “I have the experience to know when I play well or bad. I put it in the top three of the worst of my career. The game started strange, two goals conceded in the first ten minutes, strange decisions from the referee. I was angry and I shouldn’t get frustrated.
“It’s my problem, I am too emotional. I feel everything in football, just like my life. I have to control that more but it’s always been part of me, since I was a kid.”
To illustrate his high emotions, Reguilón reveals that when Manchester United lost 3-0 at home to Newcastle United in the fourth round of the Carabao Cup in November, he was in tears in the dressing room afterwards.
“We were defending the title and we were out,” he says. “I don’t care if I am here for six months, I was upset. I don’t know how long I was crying like a kid. Bruno [Fernandes] comes to tell me to relax and I still have the same shit face.”
He smiles as he recalls it. “It’s good and it’s bad. Maybe I am too passionate, too emotional in some moments but I can’t control.”
Reguilón has had this passion since he was a child, driven on to become a professional by his father. A Madrileño from birth, he was spotted by Real at five, in the academy at seven and became the only one of his age-group to graduate to the first team, making his debut in the famous white shirt at 21.
Living a boyhood dream — not least in experiencing the peerless touch of Zidane first-hand whenever he joined in training — he played 23 times for Real in 2018-19, including El Clásico. He chuckles as he tells how his Dad demanded that he do some shuttle runs on the eve of that contest, just as they had done on Fridays ever since he was a boy.
“I would train Monday to Thursday and then with my Dad on Friday, high-speed running, then a game on Saturday,” he says. “My dad on the Friday [before the Clásico] said, ‘Let’s go, we do some sprints.’ I said, ‘What? Are you serious?’
“We lived in an apartment, a very humble area. We went into the street and I was running up and down, people looking at me thinking, ‘This guy plays against Messi tomorrow’. That was crazy. Always my dad was strict like this.”
I say that it does not sound like ideal preparation for the toughest defensive job in football. “Unbelievable game, my best for Real Madrid for sure,” he says. “We lost but I played really well.”
However, not for the last time, there was a little emotional drama. Reguilón mentions, a little sheepishly, that a clip became much-watched on YouTube because of his clash with Messi. According to lip-readers, he called the maestro a “flea”, and told Luis Suárez he was ugly. “I was young, too emotional, my first Clásico,” he says, smiling. There were tears after that one too.
He went to Sevilla on loan, winning the Europa League under Julen Lopetegui in 2020, and then came the chance to join Spurs and Mourinho for £32 million. “Mourinho? I love him,” he says.
Reguilón talks of a “tactical monster” but mostly focuses on the little personal details, such as Mourinho finding out that he was spending Christmas alone and bringing him a meal, and messaging to check up.
“He told me one day, ‘If we beat [Manchester] City and you put [Riyad] Mahrez in your pocket I will buy you a nice Spanish ham’. The next day it’s there. He made me feel welcome and as a coach I can only say good things. He’s world class. He convinces you that you are the best.”
Conte would soon come to Spurs, and there would be no presents or texts at home from the intense Italian. “More strong, more tactically focused on this winning mentality, pom, pom, pom,” Reguilon says, banging his fist. “A top professional, very intense, very emotional and for sure you get too tired training with him. So tired. Oh my God, very hard.”
Was he emotional like you? “More angry,” he says, laughing.
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Reguilón found a role at left wingback, utilising his mobility and attacking intent, but it was under Conte that he suffered an ankle injury and tried to play on in intense pain because the team was competing for the top four. It is alarming to hear the efforts he made to keep playing.
“We were playing for the Champions League and Conte wanted me,” he says. “I was taking an injection for training, taking an injection for playing, even to start on the bench for three, four weeks. I was on my bed crying from the pain.
“I remember we played against Brighton, my last game for Spurs, and I took many injections. At home seven hours after and my ankle is like a balloon and I couldn’t feel anything, not my ankle or my legs. The next day I wake up and I couldn’t move and I say, ‘It’s time to stop.’ It’s time to stop because maybe now I destroy my body.”
Reguilón was worried he may not be able to play football again after trying to play through an ankle injury under Conte
Is this what elite sport demands? “Of course, when you are at a top club, fighting for things, you are under pressure to play, the manager wants you, you feel important,” he says. “If I don’t do this, [do they think] ‘Is it that this guy doesn’t want to play football?’ It’s a shit feeling. It’s not right. For one game, maybe a final, but not like this.”
Reguilón ended up having two operations, travelling to the United States for the second, but it took more than six months to be able to run without pain. He turned to a sports psychologist.
“When I was young I didn’t need it, but when I had my injury I needed someone. I couldn’t go up the stairs, move from my bed, seven or eight months of frustration,” he says. “I didn’t know if I could play football again.”
A tough road back included a difficult year at Atletico Madrid on loan trying to rebuild his game, struggling with injury. Simeone was not the hard man he anticipated.
“I was thinking he would be very strict, but when I was injured when I arrived he took good care of me,” he says. “It was a difficult season but I can only say good things. He lives the game, every minute not only of games but training. Football is in his blood. To stay 11, 12 years at one club and have the passion, ambition, it’s an unbelievable job.”
Reguilón says he had received assurances from Postecoglou shortly before being frozen out
Reguilón came back to Spurs last summer and there was hope of re-establishing himself under the new management of Postecoglou. Destiny Udogie had arrived from Udinese but Reguilón was initially confident.
“During pre-season I was very happy and he [Postecoglou] was happy with me, also the staff. I was playing like a normal player, all the games,” he says. “The week before, I went to see him. ‘You want me at the club?’ ‘Yes, I have to do a list and you are in my squad’. It was strange. The next day I was out of the training and I didn’t know what happened.