mao tse tung
Vital Football Legend
Thats a question, not a stat
Sean Dyche appointed
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OK, ask 100 people? 90 say fuck all and 10 say 25 a season. Would the answer be a stat?
The answer is 35 goals from day 1, but after 3 games that becomes 1-2 goals and we look to sell at a loss.
Rinse and repeat
Sarcasm
I'd say it was more like the club realised very quickly that they had made a big mistake and luckily somebody has helped us out.
We wont know exactly what happened but would love to know.
Will.NFFC
Vital Champions League
Owd enterty
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mao tse tung
Vital Football Legend
That's how the posh people pronounce it
Spelt wrong? Sorry I didn't use spell check. ( actually should it be wrongly?)
forestfire_59
Vital Football Hero
Entity.
radfordinlondon
Vital Football Legend
Fook em JB, no one seems to appriciate spelling freestyle round ere.
Mappred
Vital 1st Team Regular
I do mate.
radfordinlondon
Vital Football Legend
I do mate.
Forgot to say apart from the great mapp.
in_the_top_one
Vital Football Legend
Nonentity
Peter Baxendale Thomas
Vital Squad Member
Interesting piece in the Athletic on Dyche’s tactics -
www.nytimes.com
Some quotes:
Forest have tactical flaws in how predictable they are going forward. Dyche will always build his teams to defend first, however they do not need to be so one-dimensional.
They have attempted the most crosses in the league (532), rank 17th for completion rate, and there are only five goals to show from these. Twelve Premier League teams can better that, while the regression from last year, when Forest had the fourth-most goals from crosses (15), is striking.
Average out cross frequency against passes, and Forest cross more quickly than anyone else, 10 passes faster than the league average.
They crossed just as much as Arsenal in the 0-0 draw (25 times) but were half as successful as Mikel Arteta’s team (five vs 10 completed).
Now this approach works well when Wood plays but, in three months without him, Forest have been remarkably ineffective. Just one of Igor Jesus’ eight Forest goals have been in the Premier League. He rarely shows the smart movement or clever positioning of Wood.
There is an alarming lack of attacking patterns, combination play, runs beyond the ball, or even the counter-attacks from which Forest were effective last season.
So where next? This is a team filled with senior internationals like Morgan Gibbs-White, Anderson, Ibrahim Sangare, Murillo, Ola Aina, Jesus and Williams.
Quality is not an issue but they are playing their way into a relegation battle. Even if last season’s seventh-place finish was an overachievement, to be 10 places lower, even while juggling European football, is a massive underperformance.
Sean Dyche’s Nottingham Forest have become one-dimensional: Too many crosses, not enough goals
Forest have a squad packed with talent but have played their way into a relegation battle. Why are they struggling to score goals?
www.nytimes.com
Some quotes:
Forest have tactical flaws in how predictable they are going forward. Dyche will always build his teams to defend first, however they do not need to be so one-dimensional.
They have attempted the most crosses in the league (532), rank 17th for completion rate, and there are only five goals to show from these. Twelve Premier League teams can better that, while the regression from last year, when Forest had the fourth-most goals from crosses (15), is striking.
Average out cross frequency against passes, and Forest cross more quickly than anyone else, 10 passes faster than the league average.
They crossed just as much as Arsenal in the 0-0 draw (25 times) but were half as successful as Mikel Arteta’s team (five vs 10 completed).
Now this approach works well when Wood plays but, in three months without him, Forest have been remarkably ineffective. Just one of Igor Jesus’ eight Forest goals have been in the Premier League. He rarely shows the smart movement or clever positioning of Wood.
There is an alarming lack of attacking patterns, combination play, runs beyond the ball, or even the counter-attacks from which Forest were effective last season.
So where next? This is a team filled with senior internationals like Morgan Gibbs-White, Anderson, Ibrahim Sangare, Murillo, Ola Aina, Jesus and Williams.
Quality is not an issue but they are playing their way into a relegation battle. Even if last season’s seventh-place finish was an overachievement, to be 10 places lower, even while juggling European football, is a massive underperformance.
weejockmcplop
Vital Football Legend
I posted it before and its what led to the previous discussion about stats and how to use them.Interesting piece in the Athletic on Dyche’s tactics -
Sean Dyche’s Nottingham Forest have become one-dimensional: Too many crosses, not enough goals
Forest have a squad packed with talent but have played their way into a relegation battle. Why are they struggling to score goals?
Some quotes:
Forest have tactical flaws in how predictable they are going forward. Dyche will always build his teams to defend first, however they do not need to be so one-dimensional.
They have attempted the most crosses in the league (532), rank 17th for completion rate, and there are only five goals to show from these. Twelve Premier League teams can better that, while the regression from last year, when Forest had the fourth-most goals from crosses (15), is striking.
Average out cross frequency against passes, and Forest cross more quickly than anyone else, 10 passes faster than the league average.
They crossed just as much as Arsenal in the 0-0 draw (25 times) but were half as successful as Mikel Arteta’s team (five vs 10 completed).
Now this approach works well when Wood plays but, in three months without him, Forest have been remarkably ineffective. Just one of Igor Jesus’ eight Forest goals have been in the Premier League. He rarely shows the smart movement or clever positioning of Wood.
There is an alarming lack of attacking patterns, combination play, runs beyond the ball, or even the counter-attacks from which Forest were effective last season.
So where next? This is a team filled with senior internationals like Morgan Gibbs-White, Anderson, Ibrahim Sangare, Murillo, Ola Aina, Jesus and Williams.
Quality is not an issue but they are playing their way into a relegation battle. Even if last season’s seventh-place finish was an overachievement, to be 10 places lower, even while juggling European football, is a massive underperformance.
Being number 1 in the league for crosses whilst not being particularly effective at crossing or scoring from crosses is still bizarre to me, no matter what Mao has to say about stats.
Strett
Vital Champions League
[rubs chin emoji]
LynxRed
Vital 1st Team Regular
Still vastly better than Ange who bizarrely, you have pined for in a neverending love letter to utter fucking uselessness. Dyche's record here shits all over Ange's. We'd have been on ~8 points given Anges PPG, with 4 of those points coming from Nuno's 3 games
