Schools ban fairy stories

ClivetheVillan - 20/6/2014 23:02

HeathfieldRoad1874 - 20/6/2014 23:00

Green Tea - 20/6/2014 22:58

Poor response Bringback - the Bible should be seen as to ridicule. This just for its impact on ALL of humanity and life alone. It also presents us with fantasy history of events, people and places. Just because you cannot connect with the supernatural events/listings it dosnt mean you cannot connect with any of it.
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I've corrected that for you. No need to thank me.
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:19: :1: That made me laff hard :19:
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:14: My work here is done then. Off to bed I go.
 
I think all schools should teach all the main religions (Christianity, Islam, Judaism, Sikhism, Hinduism and Buddhism), not to persuade them into joining one but just to help the understanding and tolerance of others.

Religion isn't science, and it should not be taught as such. Religion is important but it needs to be ensured that they are kept as separate subjects.


On a slightly different note, I blame all of this on those stupid "academies". They can set their own curriculum, and now that's been taken advantage of by religious nut jobs. Surely education is such an important thing it should be 100% under the governments control?
 
david-avfc - 21/6/2014 01:11

Surely education is such an important thing it should be 100% under the governments control?
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:93: :93: :93: It should be 100% under the control of teachers, academics, ask any teacher what they think of the govs control of teaching, ask them what they think of the added paperwork, the unrealistic targets, having to instruct children in how to pass an exam rather than teaching them the subject, your results are all that matter to the gov, not that a child actually learns anything useful for life, children should be taught how to think, not what to think.

Where does this belief in the Gov come from? Conniving bunch of self serving criminals, they've fcked up everything they've touched.




 
Agree with Juan, no way should the government be in control of our schools, the people who work in teaching am the one's who know best totally agree with that, what does these toffee nose feckers in the givernment know about poor area kids schools needs when they have had a silver spoon coming out there arse's from day one, people from the area's and industry am the one's qualified to decide these issue's imho
 
Green Tea - 20/6/2014 22:58

Poor response Bringback - the Bible should never be seen as to ridicule. This just for its impact on ALL of humanity and life alone.
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So the bible has had an impact on all of humanity has it? Was all of the "impact" good was it? How much "impact" do you think the bible has had on those who follow Islam, Hinduism, Buddhism, Sikhism, Shinto?


It also presents us with fantastic history of events, people and places.
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Even though it has been explained to you on numerous occasions that the bible is a re hash, a re telling of much older stories, stories from older religions and belief systems?

Yet despite all the irrefutable evidence you still maintain your myopic view of the validity of a plagiarised tome!

Does the truth scare you that much?


I am not dismissing the good teachings or the life lessons, it's just that they originated elsewhere and a long time before your compendium of altered short stories was written.

I know you'll ignore this as you ignore all information that doesn't fit into your neat little bible box, but as a good person I see it as my responsibility to be truthful and to spread the truth to the masses, you could call it a crusade I suppose :35:


It's okay mate, don't worry, I won't be killing millions.



 
No religion should be taught at school.

Hope that helps.

And if the bible is a good historic document then... no, sorry, I can't type for laughing...
 
So the bible has had an impact on all of humanity has it? Was all of the "impact" good was it? How much "impact" do you think the bible has had on those who follow Islam, Hinduism, Buddhism, Sikhism, Shinto?
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The way humanity lives in regards morals, laws and our very way of thinking/living has been shaped by The Bible. If we start at the very beginning with the creation story and then the story of Cain and Abel, both found in the Old Testament in Genesis(the Torah) & written by Moses(a prophet). It will tell us where sin came from, its very birth in humanity & the 1st ever murder committed by a human. Straight away as a species, we had the urge to kill over jealousy. If a guy slept with your wife for instance, your 1st reaction may be to kill him - this maybe a "natural" reaction for most of us. The urge to kill, that urge to commit sin is explained and we are told in historic literature(Genesis) where it came from, how and why. Then as we read on, we can see the story of mankind unfold, the reasons why we act/behave in the manner we do. And this is just in the Old testament, which is shared by Judaism, Christianity and Islam - 3 of the largest religions in the world(which answers your question if The Bible effected other religions). Then we move onto Hinduism, which again shares the same morals found in early Biblical scriptures, as well as the story of Noah's Ark and the flood. Yet in Hinduism the name is Manu rather than Noah, which calculating the time the event happened, when we had no schools, printing press, pens, paper, etc a name can easily be changed as the event would have spread through word of mouth prior to Moses being born. Only when Moses was spoken to by God was the story and name confirmed. Non the less, the event of Noah's flood is strengthened because the story can be found world wide in all cultures(Western and Eastern).

As for, has the Bible been a bad or good impact on humanity - The Bible is just that = The Bible. Anything born out of it(wars, religions, cults, hate) is human behaviour as depicted within scripture. We are just as scripture states, the decline in religion is as it states, all what happens is said to happen. This is why Jesus comes back again in end times(a question a Muslim wanted answered once), its because we lose faith in Jesus Christ and Jesus is the creation's only saviour.
 
Green Tea. Just Fuck Off.

I've shown you before, and I can post it again if you want Moral standards amongst devout Christians are amongst the lowest in the World.

You yourself prove that the Bible means nothing. You don't live by it's guidance, or your posts here would be very different.

There are more people on this planet that live a good life without the Bible than do. Many, many more.

 
Apart from the just fuck off bit, I agree with Heath and have said the same.

You might need stuff made up to live by a code, it isn't the teachings of the bible that make me the amazing human being that I am though.
 
Green Tea - 22/6/2014 18:04

People are people Heath.
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Yes, and they are still people without the Bible. It is not important, or significant, in the society today. In fact, it has a negative impact if imposed.

Lets all just let it disappear from life, shall we?
 
But I stated the way we live our lives today has been shaped by it. As for how important it is, then it depends if you want the human life's journey or not. The negative stuff? As ive stated its already within us and you dont need the Bible to have a sinful(as in Biblical terms) nature.

And I will put in Biblical terms, as greed and power etc, might not necessarily be seen as a sin when looking from a Evolutionary standpoint. In fact greed/power could be seen as a positive trait to have to succeed and be strong within your family and social group. Being charitable to someone outside of their social group, why bother unless your looking for a dose of euphoria? It could be seen as helping a lower human who has nothing to do with you, sucking up your air and food supplies. Help the needy(Jesus) I mean why bother, where does this generous heart come from when it dosnt benefit evolution? Many animals, birds & fish will kill the weak, ever had a goldfish get ill in the tank and all the others will see it off? Give to others unless it benefits(ie part of your family or social group), from an evolutionary standpoint why do it? What's the gain? And its not to be popular either, as loads of people give to charity privately.
 
There are many examples of Animals displaying Altruism. Only a smug, condescending, arrogant human being would think we are better than any other species.

As I said - if the Bible were really true, and influenced those that read it, your responses here would be much, much different. You have le down your own faith.
 
Yes as you have said many times before but im not asking you to judge me. Obviously your free to do so and im sure you get something from it, otherwise you wouldnt do it. I dont judge you because im not THAT type of person, I wouldnt get any lift from it as I dont have a need to have classifications inside of me.

As for living my life by The Bible - maybe you have a certain style in mind as to judge me in the 1st place?
 
I'm sure Christ would have liked his followers to admit they are wrong when they make mistakes.

I've known criminals and drug addicts with more moral fibre than you have displayed here. That is al I can judge you on.
 
The Fear - 21/6/2014 15:28

No religion should be taught at school.

Hope that helps.

And if the bible is a good historic document then... no, sorry, I can't type for laughing...
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I disagree completely, I think all religions should be taught at school. If you don't believe in religion that's up to the individuals, but the result of widespread ignorance on matters like that is intolerance and violence

Whether you like religion or not, you have to accept the fact that billions of people worldwide shape their entire lives around religion and I think an understanding of religion is important for a better world in general.
 
Juan Mourep - 21/6/2014 13:58

david-avfc - 21/6/2014 01:11

Surely education is such an important thing it should be 100% under the governments control?
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:93: :93: :93: It should be 100% under the control of teachers, academics, ask any teacher what they think of the govs control of teaching, ask them what they think of the added paperwork, the unrealistic targets, having to instruct children in how to pass an exam rather than teaching them the subject, your results are all that matter to the gov, not that a child actually learns anything useful for life, children should be taught how to think, not what to think.

Where does this belief in the Gov come from? Conniving bunch of self serving criminals, they've fcked up everything they've touched.
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Okay so you think that allowing religious nut jobs to potentially take over schools and changing the curriculum and school rules to brainwash kids is a good thing? I agree with some form of decentralisation in the education system but that Muslim plot in Birmingham to take over schools shows that the system is susceptible to people manipulating it to fit their own fucked up agendas.
 
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