Rumours about Cooky

charlz54

charlz54

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I hope that the current rumours about Cooky going to another club are rubbish........why oh why would he go to Sunderland ( the Peter Reid connection worries me though!). Why is it when we are on such a high and we have such a good feeling at present that these rumours appear.
If the Sunderland rumour was true how would people feel about Chris Coleman coming the other way?!!!
 
The rumour literally came from a mistake from sky bet. Nothing in it. And I'd imagine clubs would wait till we played our final game b fore even considering making a move anyhow.
 
charlz54 said:
I hope that the current rumours about Cooky going to another club are rubbish........why oh why would he go to Sunderland ( the Peter Reid connection worries me though!). Why is it when we are on such a high and we have such a good feeling at present that these rumours appear.
If the Sunderland rumour was true how would people feel about Chris Coleman coming the other way?!!!
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Cook has waited his whole career to manage at Championship level, he's built some strong foundations here to succeed next year and we are local to his family, which was a big part in Cooking wanting to leave Pompey for us. I just couldn't see Cook leaving for Sunderland in L1 under any circumstances.

Cook is already down to 4th in the Ipswich running behind Coleman, Kuqi and Hurst and Nixon says they have already met with McClaren so it shows how quickly rumours can change and favourites come and go.

I think you'd have to be crazy to leave a job to go to Sunderland at the moment, it seems to be a toxic environment to work in for any manager or player and has been for quite a while. Even if a take over goes through they supposedly had no relegation reduction clauses in their Prem league contracts and if that's right their wage bill would've been killing them in the Championship let alone L1. So i'm not even sure they'd be in a position to offer Cook a great financial package or player budget as whoever is in charge will be required to try and shift massive earners that no one wants from the books. Mick McCarthy is hot favourite and I can see happening, due to their history together he will likely get more patients and support than anyone else for what will be a big rebuild.

I think Cook will be in demand but he can certainly get much better offers if he hangs on for the right one. I hadn't previously heard this rumour but I'm not worried about it. These type of rumours will always appear if you have a good manager, we've not had one in so long we've forgotten what it's like to have other clubs fans suggesting our boss as a candidate for their vacancies.
 
Cook would fancy himself to turn Sunderland around and he would. No way they don’t win the league no matter who they get in with their parachute payments next season and new owners coming in. Then once he’s got them up they’d be a powerful weapon in the Championship. If you’re Cook you look at it like this, do you have more chance of getting Wigan to the Prem from the Championship or Sunderland to the Prem from League One? I suspect with our lack of money/fans and Peter Reid whispering in his ear he’ll be inclined to think the latter. It’s a mirror move of his Chesterfield to Pompey switch.
 
Depends if our new owners pay him more than Sunderland can offer. He would be more or less Guaranteed to get them up but anyone could get Sunderland promoted next sean.
 
for me its a no brainer for cook to stay heer.

first hes going into the champeonship as kdz06 as said. its been a long term ambiteon im told. next. and if we do get the backing of new owners. he will have a bit of money to get the teem together that'll compeet at that level and stay there. after doing that for 2 to 3 seesons i think bigger clubs on the look out for a new maneger will see the pedigree of a maneger who can achieve big things on a shoestring.

not only will he be cost and money savvy but he'll have the cred that will be attached to how he coaches are pleyers to pley against big teems in a big league.

the phrase he will use is. "ive taken wigan to as far as i can get them" - its been used before but will be a signal for him to move on. by then we shold be a settled champ teem and by then it wont matter as we will be able to attract a quality champ maneger to replace him.
 
The question isn't wheather Cook would have a better chance of getting Sunderland to the Prem or Wigan eventually but is Sunderland or Wigan the best option for Cook right now.

A good 6 months in the Championship with Wigan will more likely have much better clubs than Sunderland come calling - and possibly a club that would be closer to home for him.
 
king_dezeeuw06 said:
The question isn't wheather Cook would have a better chance of getting Sunderland to the Prem or Wigan eventually but is Sunderland or Wigan the best option for Cook right now.

A good 6 months in the Championship with Wigan will more likely have much better clubs than Sunderland come calling - and possibly a club that would be closer to home for him.
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corect

cook is still young enogh to be ambiteous and there are better teems out there than sunderland for him to go to.

your second para sort of confirms what im thinking about how he'll go with this. he has a good shot at getting us fit and ready for the champeonship. i think he is aware that in order for him to stay and us to be sucessful then either dw or new owners will need to stick there hand in there pocket for a good deel for him. so its win win for him.

for me im hoping that he has more than a good 6 months with us. i hope that he has at least a full good seeson before he even thinks of bigger things. who knows. a run of luck culd even see us have a pop at a play of place. geting a bit ahead of meself heer. time for a kip.
 
BrickLatic said:
corect
for me im hoping that he has more than a good 6 months with us. i hope that he has at least a full good seeson before he even thinks of bigger things. who knows. a run of luck culd even see us have a pop at a play of place. geting a bit ahead of meself heer. time for a kip.
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Absolutely I'm hoping that he's here for a while yet, and if the take over goes well and we recruit soundly in the summer maybe the clubs that would come calling suddenly wouldn't be as appealing. Things can change quickly in football (for better and worse) and although Cook will have ambition to manage as high as possible the foundation he lays down here could give him the best chance to do that. The bigger clubs in the Prem are unlikely to come in and the Championship big clubs aren't going to look at him unless he is doing very well and they are under performing. If he had us in and around the play offs and one of the biggest clubs like Norwich, Leeds or Forest has had a nightmare start are scrapping around the relegation zone - he might want to see how far he could take a promotion push here rather than go for a rebuilding job elsewhere and uproot his family. You never know.

In my mind i think a big future threat could be Burnely as Cook played there, they are local and Dyche is doing such a great job it wouldn't suprise me if at some point he moved on for bigger things. If Cook is doing well in the Championship next season and Dyche gets a move then that would be something i could see happening.
 
As well as he has done I don’t see Dyche moving anywhere. He isn’t a big name nor does he have the required image (fairly or unfairly) for the bigger clubs. That’s not to say he couldn’t be successful at a bigger club, but I don’t think he’ll get the chance to prove it.
He strikes me to some degree as being at exactly the right club for him, they are a great fit for each other, similar to Jewell who did brilliantly with us but failed everywhere afterwards.
Cook has said he’s ambitious though and given he’s turned 51, IF he is going to do anything at a bigger club then it would have to be sooner rather than later. I hope he stays and think he will, but as many have said the outcome of any major changes at the club will likely shape his future one way or the other.
 
Pick the wrong job and he could be out of a job before he’s 52. Manager turnover is so great opportunities will always crop up. He’s past the stage of needing to take risks.
 
Zeb2 said:
As well as he has done I don’t see Dyche moving anywhere. He isn’t a big name nor does he have the required image (fairly or unfairly) for the bigger clubs. That’s not to say he couldn’t be successful at a bigger club, but I don’t think he’ll get the chance to prove it.
He strikes me to some degree as being at exactly the right club for him, they are a great fit for each other, similar to Jewell who did brilliantly with us but failed everywhere afterwards.
Cook has said he’s ambitious though and given he’s turned 51, IF he is going to do anything at a bigger club then it would have to be sooner rather than later. I hope he stays and think he will, but as many have said the outcome of any major changes at the club will likely shape his future one way or the other.
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I know what you mean if i was him i'd think the same. But i could see him eventually offered the likes of Everton and England which may tempt him. Also if Burnley don't have a good start next season other jobs like a West Ham or Newcastle may become more attractive than they currently are as he may feel at some point he's taken them as far as he can or want a fresh challenge. Things can change so quickly in football and while at the moment Dyche appears to be exactly the right place for him in 6 months time things could be so different as football has a habit of producing the unexpected.
 
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Nixon says Sunderland want Kevin Phillips, local press said that's not true.

Mick McCarthy supposedly spotted in the area.

One paper said new Sunderland owners worked with Appleton at Oxford and want him.

The bookies now have Wilder from Sheff U as favourite. As apparently he's at odds with some of the board.

Every day it changes.
 
Michael Applet
6/4

Chris Wilder
9/4

Mick McCarthy
3/1


Kevin Phillips
4/1

Paul Cook
8/1


Jaap Stam
12/1
 
I can't see Cook going to Sunderland, a job that is a poisoned chalice at the moment. Plus, he's worked all season to get up to the Championship, his first time as manager. I can't see it happening.
However, Burnley is a different threat all together. Premiership, and may even be in Europe. Surely he would be tempted? I would be. Everton look increasingly like they will let Allardyce go. Like him or loathe him, I think their fans treatment of him had been a disgrace, given the fact he joined them when they were in the mire, and has got them up to eighth. Everton fans are never happy and always trying to keep up with Liverpool, they'e miles away.
But I digress. Surely Dyche would be an option for Everton, which would maybe see Cook in contention for the Burnley job. If so, and I hope not, I'd like Mccarthy here. Why? Because he is honest in his opinion on performances, very experienced in the Championship, both at promotion, and keeping teams up. Even if we found the going tough, and without a few signings I think we might, he could do what he did at Ipswich and keep us away from the relegation mire.
 
I agree re Dyche for Everton Vat ......... not sure I'd be so welcoming of McCarthy to the Tics though.

Granted, he's everything you say, but is he really the right fit for us .......right now?

From his leaving comments, it sounds like he's had enough of the earache (justified or not) and wouldn't be keen on somewhere where he might expect summat similar. Extract from the BBC:

It came after he was asked in his post-match news conference about fans' negative reaction to debutant Barry Cotter being substituted.

"I won't have to listen to that again, that's my last game," McCarthy said.

"I'm out of here."

Given that Cook's not leaving (yet), there's little point on speculating who might be a good replacement ............ but it's a little easier to say who wouldn't.
 
Is Coleman going anywhere though ?... Regarding the job if it was available I could see the attraction to anyone. Huge club and almost guaranteed promotion.
 
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