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RIP Deadly Doug Ellis

It is interesting how highly Doug is being spoken of by players / managers who served under him. The likes of Saunders, Merson, McGrath, Taylor etc. have utterly sung his praises. Now I’m not suggesting that the opinions of the European Cup winners who were disgracefully shunned by him should be ignored but maybe it shows that things are rarely black and white - there are always shades of grey.

I’m a football fan who grew up in the 90s and whilst I always thought the man lacked the ambition to really go for it when it mattered I never hated him as much as others seemed to. Indeed, when living in Durham and moaning about him once I was met by a load of Geordies saying to me “you moan, but he always puts the money up” - which utterly shocked me! However, whilst everyone remembers us not paying the extra £500k for Robbie Keane it’s easy to forget that he gave Gregory nearly £7m for Steve Stone (outrageous money at the time).

I can’t deny he did well out of us but - shades of grey again - I always felt he acted on what he thought was best. In the end I wanted him gone like everyone else, the game had passed him by and we couldn’t even afford to sign the awful Eirick Bakke. But even then there was something about him that I liked and always did. When he sold to Lerner I believe he gifted the club something like £30m(?).

Since selling the man still turned up every week, regardless of ill health whilst the custodians at the time hid.

He was in no way perfect, but also did a tremendous amount of good for charities and for the city of Birmingham. He was also one of the last of the ‘old-school’ characters in football before the bland commercial state of affairs we find today became the norm.

I didn’t understand the call for applause a few weeks ago and felt it was unnecessary and undeserved. However, now that he’s gone there is no battle to be fought anymore and, like it or not, Doug Ellis will go down in history as a significant figure at Aston Villa, the man deserves his minutes silence as a mark of respect.

I understand those who disagree, but the answer is simple - come up to your seat 2mins later, just before kickoff.

To be honest though, I do have faith that even the most fervent anti-Ellis Villan would have more class than to disrespect the minutes silence.

I'm impressed with the positive things many people have said, whilst at the same time acknowledging Doug's well-known faults. A true fan who did a lot for the club, while being a difficult person with a big ego. People genuinely liked him, in spite of. RIP Doug.
 
We are Aston Villa and we are class.

We need to show the world at large that we are a cut above the rest and show an impeccable observance of the minutes silence. Blasting out Holte Enders in the Sky after the minute is up will be a fitting tribute to a man who was Villa through and through.

If we need any further evidence that he was a true Villa fan, how many 93 years olds would drive their Rolls Royce with a registration plate AV1 to the Sty and then sit there whilst being taunted by some of the great unwashed with no police escort - now that shows some real cojones.
Give the man the respect that he deserves

HEITS
 
Whatever happens in the tribute it won’t bother Doug but it will have an impact on how others view our club. We’re aristocrats of the game and should behave as such. Anything that shows us in a bad light should be avoided.
The respect shown will be appreciated by his family.
Respect the occasion as much as the man.
 
Without doubt I will observe a minutes silence I won't be reminiscing whilst observing and I won't be feeling sad in any way cus after all he's led a far more privileged life than I will ever have.
 
It is interesting how highly Doug is being spoken of by players / managers who served under him. The likes of Saunders, Merson, McGrath, Taylor etc. have utterly sung his praises. Now I’m not suggesting that the opinions of the European Cup winners who were disgracefully shunned by him should be ignored but maybe it shows that things are rarely black and white - there are always shades of grey.

I’m a football fan who grew up in the 90s and whilst I always thought the man lacked the ambition to really go for it when it mattered I never hated him as much as others seemed to. Indeed, when living in Durham and moaning about him once I was met by a load of Geordies saying to me “you moan, but he always puts the money up” - which utterly shocked me! However, whilst everyone remembers us not paying the extra £500k for Robbie Keane it’s easy to forget that he gave Gregory nearly £7m for Steve Stone (outrageous money at the time).

I can’t deny he did well out of us but - shades of grey again - I always felt he acted on what he thought was best. In the end I wanted him gone like everyone else, the game had passed him by and we couldn’t even afford to sign the awful Eirick Bakke. But even then there was something about him that I liked and always did. When he sold to Lerner I believe he gifted the club something like £30m(?).

Since selling the man still turned up every week, regardless of ill health whilst the custodians at the time hid.

He was in no way perfect, but also did a tremendous amount of good for charities and for the city of Birmingham. He was also one of the last of the ‘old-school’ characters in football before the bland commercial state of affairs we find today became the norm.

I didn’t understand the call for applause a few weeks ago and felt it was unnecessary and undeserved. However, now that he’s gone there is no battle to be fought anymore and, like it or not, Doug Ellis will go down in history as a significant figure at Aston Villa, the man deserves his minutes silence as a mark of respect.

I understand those who disagree, but the answer is simple - come up to your seat 2mins later, just before kickoff.

To be honest though, I do have faith that even the most fervent anti-Ellis Villan would have more class than to disrespect the minutes silence.

:clap::clap::clap: summed up beautifully and where I stand too on D.D
 
I will observe a minutes silence and if it's applauding for a minute I will still just stand there in silence no applauding from me I'm afraid.
 
Applaud him for what? His work at Villa shouldn’t be applauded. A minutes applause at his private funeral from family, friends and others for his charity work etc. would be more appropriate but not Saturday. A minutes silence to respect the loss of a notable Villa figure is more appropriate.
 
It will be a minutes applause and then we will move on. We are Aston villa and we will do things properly. There will be a day when the greatest Aston villa manager ever will pass away, that day will be marked with sincere love and affection, you can't buy that, it happens because you earnt it and deserved it.
 
Whatever your view on Doug, today was classy from the club and the fans.
The correct tone was set by the club. Respectful but not OTT. And the fans equally respectful in their applause
 
Let it go for 1 minute and applaud with the rest .

:grinning:

I had nothing to applaud him for.

As above, amazing how some players wax lyrical, you can find as many managers/players who wouldn't.

Hey ho, done and dusted now. Took away our chance of being THE club of the 80's, ripped the winning team apart and fucked up the 90's. Floated the club making a bomb for himself and losing the rest of us money and people think he's a legend and deserves applause.

Each to their own I'd say.
 
:grinning:

I had nothing to applaud him for.

As above, amazing how some players wax lyrical, you can find as many managers/players who wouldn't.

Hey ho, done and dusted now. Took away our chance of being THE club of the 80's, ripped the winning team apart and fucked up the 90's. Floated the club making a bomb for himself and losing the rest of us money and people think he's a legend and deserves applause.

Each to their own I'd say.

Is it true you are a pall bearer at the funeral ?

:ROFLMAO: