Premier League Match Thread: Nottingham Forest Vs Bournemouth, sponsored by Daniel Levy's menagerie of strikers | Vital Football

Premier League Match Thread: Nottingham Forest Vs Bournemouth, sponsored by Daniel Levy's menagerie of strikers

Pope John XXIII

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Here it is- a third season in the Premier League. The mere idea was unthinkable not long ago. I think we all assumed that one day we might fluke our way to a season in the Premier League. But to be fairly established there, albeit as relegation battlers, is remarkable.

This is our third consecutive Premier League season. In this era, we have never had a fourth.

We go into this with the best squad and the best players since the mid 90s. We go into it with questions about the defence, but a decent goalscoring record and promising midfield. Pre season has been ok.

The start of the season is fantastic. No one has been relegated. No game is do or die. Everyone is a proper, legitimate premier league team with no shadows over them (except Leicester). We can enjoy PL football without the consequences.

Bournemouth Style of Play

Bournemouth are a high pressing counter attacking side. It took them ages to adapt to what Ireola wants, but essentially they use very fast counter attacks and lay pressing traps, catching teams with the ball and then hitting goal extremely quickly. No other team won the ball in the final third more than Bournemouth.

They are never more dangerous than when you are trying to play it out from the back. They won most of their points against "the other 14" this way, but did pretty poorly against the top 6 who could play around it more effectively.

Bournemouth formation

This was last season's most used 11

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To this they have added Sinisterra and the Turkish forward Unal, both of whom will feature against us.

Players

I say this every single time we play Bournemouth. The only thing you need to know about Bournemouth is "stop Solanke". But that is Leicester's problem this weekend, as they play Spurs. Solanke has scored four in the last 2 games at the City Ground.

They will buy someone new but unlikely for our game, so for this game we'll have to stop Justin Kluivert, their left winger who often plays central and their third top scorer with 7 last season. This is a player I fear as a great counter attacker and finisher.

Up front all they really have as of today is Enes Unal, a Turkish striker they had on loan to buy from Getafe last season. He is a one in four striker in La Liga and managed 2 in 16 in the PL last season. Not a bad player, but he isn't Solanke.

Another absolutely brilliant player to fear is Antoine Semenyo, the Ghanaian playmaker who can just do everything. He scored 8 and assisted 2 last season and really impressed me when I saw him.

Added to him is left winger Luis Sinisterra signed from Leeds. He can do everything. He is great at scoring long shots, at scoring set pieces, winning in the air, passing, dribbling etc. should be a real success in the PL again. Our defence needs to give real respect to these players.

Sinisterra will be relegating Marcus Taverner to the bench, along with Jaidon Anthony, both of whom are also excellent players (Anthony scored in the last minute at the CG in 22/23). That isn't even mentioning Django Outtara, another excellent winger. They are far more spoiled for choice than we are and their bench is far stronger, because they were buying these players while we were buying Dennis. They have spent a huge whack of money though.

On the plus side, the attacking midfielders we have in CHO, MGW, Elanga and Anderson are at the very least a match for their players. And they don't have anyone up front as I type this to match Wood or Awoniyi.

In midfield they have plenty of options too.

The one we all know is Phillip Billing, who is out of favour and only started 13 last season. He is an excellent DCM with great ball interception.and a cracking shot, as we have often found to our detriment.

Ryan Christie tends to play the pivot more. The 29 year old Scot hit five assists last season by winning the ball and quickly passing (how many of our DCMs managed 5 assists last year?).

American Tyler Adams was signed for more big money from Leeds last summer to play in this role. But he was injured almost all last season and is having further surgery meaning he won't play against us. So it may be Lewis Cook, another set piece specialist.

Far more likely is Alex Scott, signed for yet more big money from Bristol. Bournemouth fans really rate him, despite two long term injuries last season, and he apparently thinks he is one of their best players. He may be right.

I think we can beat them in midfield- but not with Sangilo. I think it needs to be Yangare as a pairing to add that competitiveness, or Sanginguez.

Defensively, I won't bother go into too much detail. Marcos Senesi is a good defender. Ilya Zabarnyi is ok. They have Max Aarons at RB, who is supposed to be decent.

Form

Bournemouth have been on excellent pre season form.

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10th August they won 3-2 Vs Girona.

So strong form, although they don't seem to have played that many games.

Head to head

This is grim. Bournemouth are an absolute bogey team we haven't beaten in 8 matches, and have barely beaten at all, even in our league one days. We haven't even got a point at home since 2021.

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The last three defeats at home I have felt were unjust. Even under Hughton I thought their win was harsh. In 22/23 it was a comeback, a collapse by us and a shocker of a mistake by McKenna. And then last season it was the most ludicrous sending off you'll ever see of Boly and then Solanke scoring two headers with our best aerial defender unjustly sent off.

Who's the ****** in the black?

Michael Oliver, who has an interesting record with us, having taken the all important second leg against Blades and a previous 2-3 home defeat to Bournemouth (where he actually gave us a penalty). Some crucial wins as well, including the superb win over Southampton.

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Andy Madley is on VAR, who is best remembered for that absolutely insane performance at Derby back in 2008

Weather
It will be a warm and friendly 20°C on Trent side for our first home start to a season since 2019

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Cracking thread Pope - like you I really rate Semenyo. Would absolutely love to see him at Forest but I think he will end up somewhere like Villa or Newcastle.
 
Nice thread as always Pope - I guess you wrote it before Solanke left though!
That is massive for us as he always scores against us.
It also looks like they are missing a few more including Unal, who I guess would replace Solanke - at least until they get someone else in.

I think we can & will win this one, it would be nice to keep a clean sheet as well.

Just listening to Talksport and Jeff Stelling has tipped Forest to go down - lets show the monkey hanger what is what - we have more than enough to be mid-table this season
 
Nice thread as always Pope - I guess you wrote it before Solanke left though!
Don't think you've read it properly mate

That is massive for us as he always scores against us.
It also looks like they are missing a few more including Unal, who I guess would replace Solanke - at least until they get someone else in.
I didn't realise Unal was injured too. I also missed Senesi

I think we can & will win this one, it would be nice to keep a clean sheet as well.

Just listening to Talksport and Jeff Stelling has tipped Forest to go down - lets show the monkey hanger what is what - we have more than enough to be mid-table this season
Everyone is tipping Forest to go down. No regard for us among the pundits and never has been. Mostly it is wishful thinking about Ipswich and being misty-eyed about Leicester, so they pick a team to replace them
 
So does everyone think we should stick with a 'best' midfield or rotate throughout the season?

I can't decide because in preseason sometimes we were better with Yates, sometimes Danilo, sometimes Dominguez, and sometimes Sangare, so it might just be a case of changing depending on the game.

I do like the look of Sangare Danilo as a two, but Danilo is a form player, and we still haven't seen Sangare dominate in the Premier League at all.
 
Don't think you've read it properly mate


I didn't realise Unal was injured too. I also missed Senesi


Everyone is tipping Forest to go down. No regard for us among the pundits and never has been. Mostly it is wishful thinking about Ipswich and being misty-eyed about Leicester, so they pick a team to replace them
Sorry Pope - missed the bit about Solanke being Leicester's problem - saw the bit above with him in the 'formation set-up'

Not sure why everyone is tipping us to go down - lazy journalism as we finished 4th bottom last season I assume
 
Will Nuno surprise us and start with a back 3?
Will we see one or two defensive midfielders start?
What will Andersons role be?
Is Taiwo fit enough to play any meaningfull minutes?
 
It's portmanteau only for the double pivot

So you mean

Sanderson
Saninguez
Yangare
Dominates
Yanderson
Sanillo
Danderson

Etc
No double pivot. Sangare holding Anderson mid right, MGW mid left. MGW to play a little deeper than last two seasons. Anderson is my stand out player of pre season. Wing backs will push in to midfield but not into frontline unless situation dictates. 2.5.3 with ball 4.5.1 without. This team will press more which may suit B’muff.
 
I think people on here pick teams without looking at what has been going on in the friendlies tbh.

People are assuming Murillo and Milo will be the new centre back partnership

But the friendlies very much point to Boly still starting for us
 
I think people on here pick teams without looking at what has been going on in the friendlies tbh.

People are assuming Murillo and Milo will be the new centre back partnership

But the friendlies very much point to Boly still starting for us
The game that looked most like a full strength starting 11 was the line up for the Villarreal. Other formations and line ups have been more mixed rather than full strength.