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Thewolf/jimmygordon said:
Sorting out grit and solid defence is what Dyche does?

It's his blueprint

And he's never had a Premier League squad with our flair and pace to catch teams on the break

Would be perfect fit for what we need to do to improve and kick on IMO

Im sure Dyche, Woan and Steve Stone would love to be managing us

And with the current situation at Everton and players we have in our squad and things we need to improve on

This is the perfect time to make it happen

Would significantly improve us and significantly weaken one of of our rival teams at the same time IMO
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I know it shouldn’t matter but there is something about that forest connection that I do really like.

Loved stone as a player and woan
 
Thewolf/jimmygordon said:
Sorting out grit and solid defence is what Dyche does?

It's his blueprint

And he's never had a Premier League squad with our flair and pace to catch teams on the break

Would be perfect fit for what we need to do to improve and kick on IMO

Im sure Dyche, Woan and Steve Stone would love to be managing us

And with the current situation at Everton and players we have in our squad and things we need to improve on

This is the perfect time to make it happen

Would significantly improve us and significantly weaken one of of our rival teams at the same time IMO
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In your opinion is not fact.
 
Pope John XXIII said:
Fucking Fulham are playing a reserve side at Luton, *****.

Only Palinha playing of their usual lineup is playing.

The bench is basically the first team. Totally unacceptable
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Just going back to this - the six changes Fulham made are NOT reserve players.

Ream - american international who is the normal starter but was injured.

Harry Wilson - played 43 games 5th highest scorer
Jimenez - third top scorer
Adama - played against us
Harrison reed - decent player played 34 games

bit of an over reaction ? :)
 
Forest are a selling club. PSR even more so. BJ sold last summer confirms the mantra. We have bought several young value added players which at some stage will be sold for profit. Media chatter is focused on Murillo and MGW at present. They were by far the two best players on display at turf more. Our problem will be reinvesting the money wisely and bringing on the next couple of saleable assets. This is how Brighton moved from two years finishing 17th to selling several hundred millions of players and playing in Europe.

I will be sad to see MGW and Murillo go but they will. It is recruitment that I am most worried about. Awoniyi is of an age that suggests his added value is limited. We need some good young players and to develop them. We will fall or stand by our recruitment and ability to develop.
 
Polly 433 said:
Forest are a selling club. PSR even more so. BJ sold last summer confirms the mantra. We have bought several young value added players which at some stage will be sold for profit. Media chatter is focused on Murillo and MGW at present. They were by far the two best players on display at turf more. Our problem will be reinvesting the money wisely and bringing on the next couple of saleable assets. This is how Brighton moved from two years finishing 17th to selling several hundred millions of players and playing in Europe.

I will be sad to see MGW and Murillo go but they will. It is recruitment that I am most worried about. Awoniyi is of an age that suggests his added value is limited. We need some good young players and to develop them. We will fall or stand by our recruitment and ability to develop.
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People worry about our recruitment and talk about it like its awful, but the reason we can sell Murillo and MGW is because we have generally recruited pretty well.
We'll always get some duds in with the rest when we're talking about the volume of players we have bought in the last 2 seasons, but we've found some right gems as well.
Now we just need to make sure our hit rate increases as we go for fewer signings.
 
Thewolf/jimmygordon said:
Sorting out grit and solid defence is what Dyche does?

It's his blueprint

And he's never had a Premier League squad with our flair and pace to catch teams on the break

Would be perfect fit for what we need to do to improve and kick on IMO

Im sure Dyche, Woan and Steve Stone would love to be managing us

And with the current situation at Everton and players we have in our squad and things we need to improve on

This is the perfect time to make it happen

Would significantly improve us and significantly weaken one of of our rival teams at the same time IMO
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You forgot to write the below: please edit and amend. Thanks! :)

FACT 4 EVA
 
i would bet my house murillo and gibbs white will be gone.

practically need to buy whole new defence.
 
Fulhamred said:
Just going back to this - the six changes Fulham made are NOT reserve players.

Ream - american international who is the normal starter but was injured.

Harry Wilson - played 43 games 5th highest scorer
Jimenez - third top scorer
Adama - played against us
Harrison reed - decent player played 34 games

bit of an over reaction ? :)
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The overreaction was thinking any EPL side doesn't have a squad of, roughly, equal players in their 25.

But, y'know, internets emotions are a frightful beast.

FACT
 
weejockmcplop said:
People worry about our recruitment and talk about it like its awful, but the reason we can sell Murillo and MGW is because we have generally recruited pretty well.
We'll always get some duds in with the rest when we're talking about the volume of players we have bought in the last 2 seasons, but we've found some right gems as well.
Now we just need to make sure our hit rate increases as we go for fewer signings.
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it's worth noting that the adding value and selling players for a profit is EMs model at Oly. He loves the market- just hope he has an eye on the positions we need to kick on.

I don't mind selling provided we get top dollar but agree with Polly, HAS to be integrated with recruitment otherwise there will be gaps and trouble ahead.

new training facilities would help with developing more players...
 
Fulhamred said:
Just going back to this - the six changes Fulham made are NOT reserve players.

Ream - american international who is the normal starter but was injured.

Harry Wilson - played 43 games 5th highest scorer
Jimenez - third top scorer
Adama - played against us
Harrison reed - decent player played 34 games

bit of an over reaction ? :)
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When you look at their "average team of the season" as well as their team from their last home game, there were about 3 players in that line up who were the same.

You are inflating the appearance records by including subs games rather than just starts. Doing that makes it look like Awoniyi has played a lot of football this season when he has not. My point was that they changed their previous lineup significantly and people who are normally on the subs bench were in the team.

Thankfully they were good enough
 
Pope John XXIII said:
When you look at their "average team of the season" as well as their team from their last home game, there were about 3 players in that line up who were the same.

You are inflating the appearance records by including subs games rather than just starts. Doing that makes it look like Awoniyi has played a lot of football this season when he has not. My point was that they changed their previous lineup significantly and people who are normally on the subs bench were in the team.

Thankfully they were good enough
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Sorry, i've watched Fulham a LOT over the years given how close they are and my best mate often had a spare ticket as his mate couldn't make a lot of games on his ST.

Therefore i know the team they put out was more than good enough and experienced.

You forget also that Fulham are quite a bit more up the change process that we want to get to and have a pretty good squad which doesn't have championship players like us.

How you think a line up of :

Leno, Tete, Ream, Bassey, Robinson, Iwobi, Palhinha, Reed, Wilson, Adama, Jimenez

is sub standard is beyond comprehension. A team with 9 internationals in it and some on the bench.

You state there were only 3 players in the line up the same. There were 6 changes - 1 because of suspension, 1 because of injury and 4 due to normal rotation. Two of the players are regulars and Willian isn't often played two games in a row.

Also the previous week the team was hammered 4-0 so they are a professional enough outfit to want to change things for a meaningless end of season game where they can't finish higher or lower.

Your comments are totally incorrect and also imply they put out the under 11 team and it was such a massive disgrace which was an over reaction.
 
Fulhamred said:
Sorry, i've watched Fulham a LOT over the years given how close they are and my best mate often had a spare ticket as his mate couldn't make a lot of games on his ST.

Therefore i know the team they put out was more than good enough and experienced.

You forget also that Fulham are quite a bit more up the change process that we want to get to and have a pretty good squad which doesn't have championship players like us.

How you think a line up of :

Leno, Tete, Ream, Bassey, Robinson, Iwobi, Palhinha, Reed, Wilson, Adama, Jimenez

is sub standard is beyond comprehension. A team with 9 internationals in it and some on the bench.

You state there were only 3 players in the line up the same. There were 6 changes - 1 because of suspension, 1 because of injury and 4 due to normal rotation. Two of the players are regulars and Willian isn't often played two games in a row.

Also the previous week the team was hammered 4-0 so they are a professional enough outfit to want to change things for a meaningless end of season game where they can't finish higher or lower.

Your comments are totally incorrect and also imply they put out the under 11 team and it was such a massive disgrace which was an over reaction.
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You can dissect the post all you like, and you can tell me I was wrong and I can accept that charge.

But maybe it is just a guy who really cares about his team and was really nervous before a relegation decider? One who doesn't watch Fulham and is looking at the most common team?

Sure, you are right and I was wrong. It was clearly a nervous and emotional post though
 
Pope John XXIII said:
You can dissect the post all you like, and you can tell me I was wrong and I can accept that charge.

But maybe it is just a guy who really cares about his team and was really nervous before a relegation decider? One who doesn't watch Fulham and is looking at the most common team?

Sure, you are right and I was wrong. It was clearly a nervous and emotional post though
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I get it - I'm not out to take the emotion away just more of a detail on my knowledge of Fulham and that a Silva team doesn't roll over (apart from at the city ground!) :)

Let's hope we don't have this kind of nerves next year to be happy about finishing 15th - give me the champioship anyday!
 
Thewolf/jimmygordon said:
It's a big "IF" though

100 per cent Dyche would sort the defence and set piece issues before we even finished pre-season friendlies

We would be an entirely different prospect

And become a team way more feared by the opposition overnight

FACT
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Is he your Origi for the 24/25 season? FACT indeed. You haven’t got a great track record.
 
Mappred said:
Is he your Origi for the 24/25 season? FACT indeed. You haven’t got a great track record.
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What is a FACT is that CHO is categorically (FACT, one might say) overrated at £3m: bound to fail FACT.

Also, if we feed Origi...say, put the ball right in the middle of the goal 6 yards out, every single time FACT, he'd score about 5 goals FACT.
 
BlackGold said:
What is a FACT is that CHO is categorically (FACT, one might say) overrated at £3m: bound to fail FACT.

Also, if we feed Origi...say, put the ball right in the middle of the goal 6 yards out, every single time FACT, he'd score about 5 goals FACT.
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Do I detect a hint of sarcasm there?
 
RochesterRed said:
Do I detect a hint of sarcasm there?
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Not at all.

Both are FACTS.

CHO - overrated, will play infrequently and his transfer fee of £3m was about £2.75m too great. FACT.

Origi - yes, given he couldnt be arsed to run, track, mark, or be a footballer it was debatable whether he could even walk his fat arse into the penalty (never mind time a run into a key xG quadrant) area...
That being said, its a FACT if we passed the ball onto his big toe into a square inch of grass exactly on the 6 yard line...
Then he would have scored a hatful of goals.

FACT, FACT, FACT, FACT, FACTOID.

Take those FACTS and understand that Dyche will FACTUALLY convert our porous defence into the meanest bunch of mofos this side of Bradley dock.
 
BlackGold said:
Not at all.

Both are FACTS.

CHO - overrated, will play infrequently and his transfer fee of £3m was about £2.75m too great. FACT.

Origi - yes, given he couldnt be arsed to run, track, mark, or be a footballer it was debatable whether he could even walk his fat arse into the penalty (never mind time a run into a key xG quadrant) area...
That being said, its a FACT if we passed the ball onto his big toe into a square inch of grass exactly on the 6 yard line...
Then he would have scored a hatful of goals.

FACT, FACT, FACT, FACT, FACTOID.

Take those FACTS and understand that Dyche will FACTUALLY convert our porous defence into the meanest bunch of mofos this side of Bradley dock.
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touch of a fat Spanish waiter about this post...
 
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