Postecoglou appointed manager

weejockmcplop said:
tbf you have been known to maybe overstate things slightly when you don't like a player.
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I judge players purely on if they have genuine football ability. It's why I am yet to be convinced on Savona. Tries hard, but I dont see the football ability in him, despite his efforts, desire and 2 great goals.

McAtee is clearly a talented player not delivering, but he's talented. Phillips had nothing. No talent, no desire. Horrible player
 
finbar70 said:
I judge players purely on if they have genuine football ability. It's why I am yet to be convinced on Savona. Tries hard, but I dont see the football ability in him, despite his efforts, desire and 2 great goals.

McAtee is clearly a talented player not delivering, but he's talented. Phillips had nothing. No talent, no desire. Horrible player
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He bossed the midfield and was one of the players of the tournament. He had everything. He won the ball, he passed the ball in all directions including incisive forward through balls, and he struck a good shot. He has scored a bunch of fantastic free kicks.
What he did then can't - or at least shouldn't - be written off as a few lucky deflections and backwards/sideways passing. He was simply excellent for a while.
Sorry, but I really don't know how you missed all that yet still have a strong opinion. If you had only watched him in the years since then, then I completely agree. He's been crap. I guess he couldn't sustain it. Fair enough.
 
in_the_top_one said:
He bossed the midfield and was one of the players of the tournament. He had everything. He won the ball, he passed the ball in all directions including incisive forward through balls, and he struck a good shot. He has scored a bunch of fantastic free kicks.
What he did then can't - or at least shouldn't - be written off as a few lucky deflections and backwards/sideways passing. He was simply excellent for a while.
Sorry, but I really don't know how you missed all that yet still have a strong opinion. If you had only watched him in the years since then, then I completely agree. He's been crap. I guess he couldn't sustain it. Fair enough.
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He bossed nothing, and how many fantastic goals has he scored in his career?

Incredibly limited and overrated player who was found out pretty quickly. Let’s not claim he was some sort of amazing player based on a promotion from the championship and a half decent first PL season
 
finbar70 said:
I cannot believe people actually thought he had any ability. He was shit at absolutely everything, except a 3 yard sideways pass. His ability in the last 5 years has proven every word of what I have said. shite
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If he had no ability, how did he play so many games for Leeds? Why did he play for England? Then there’s his move to Man City…

The fact that you can’t or won’t see that probably says more about you than it does his ability.
 
Basha73 said:
If he had no ability, how did he play so many games for Leeds? Why did he play for England? Then there’s his move to Man City…

The fact that you can’t or won’t see that probably says more about you than it does his ability.
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Christ almighty, Pep saw in 2 minutes how shit he was and didn’t play him! Great he played in the championship for Leeds, so what? The truly staggering thing is the amount of caps he got for England.

Good for you championing what a good player he is, but really glad you’re not a scout at Forest!! I will give you a reference to be a derby scout though 🤣🤣
 
finbar70 said:
I judge players purely on if they have genuine football ability. It's why I am yet to be convinced on Savona. Tries hard, but I dont see the football ability in him, despite his efforts, desire and 2 great goals.

McAtee is clearly a talented player not delivering, but he's talented. Phillips had nothing. No talent, no desire. Horrible player
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Desire and two goals already gets you a long way...
 
Hucknall Red said:
Desire and two goals already gets you a long way...
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Brilliant to see, and the fact that Aina is injured for so long will give him game time and exposure to develop. If Aina wasn't injured, his playing time would be limited and we wouldn't be seeing any real development with him. If he can do a Yates, he could turn out to be a great squad player. But he's no Aina, or Williams based purely on ability
 
finbar70 said:
Christ almighty, Pep saw in 2 minutes how shit he was and didn’t play him! Great he played in the championship for Leeds, so what? The truly staggering thing is the amount of caps he got for England.

Good for you championing what a good player he is, but really glad you’re not a scout at Forest!! I will give you a reference to be a derby scout though 🤣🤣
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Did I say he was a great player? I did say he was a decent Premier League player before Man City. And he didn’t just play for Leeds in the Championship.

You either don’t know who you are talking about or just straight up don’t know what you are talking about.

Given your views on some of our players I am not surprised…
 
Forest fans who watch him IRL will probably vote Savona POTY after he’s banged 10 goals, all the lasses in Notts and wins us the Europa League.

Frankly wild that folk claim they judge footballers on ability, yet question it in spite of numerous clean sheets, quietening top quality wingers and bagging two goals in a few games…absolute wild.
 
BlackGold said:
Forest fans who watch him IRL will probably vote Savona POTY after he’s banged 10 goals, all the lasses in Notts and wins us the Europa League.

Frankly wild that folk claim they judge footballers on ability, yet question it in spite of numerous clean sheets, quietening top quality wingers and bagging two goals in a few games…absolute wild.
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BlackGold said:
Forest fans who watch him IRL will probably vote Savona POTY after he’s banged 10 goals, all the lasses in Notts and wins us the Europa League.

Frankly wild that folk claim they judge footballers on ability, yet question it in spite of numerous clean sheets, quietening top quality wingers and bagging two goals in a few games…absolute wild.
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And those are valid points. But so was his error in miscontrolling the ball which gave doubts over the Man Utd corner and his fault for the Leeds goal

He also got ripped a new arsehole by Gakpo. But if you and Basha want to turn a blind eye to that go ahead
He’s a massive work in progress and our weak link in defence. These games will get him up to speed quicker than if Aina was fit. But let’s not pretend he’s a top class RB for our ambitions, becuase he’s got a long way to go
 
Basha73 said:
Did I say he was a great player? I did say he was a decent Premier League player before Man City. And he didn’t just play for Leeds in the Championship.

You either don’t know who you are talking about or just straight up don’t know what you are talking about.

Given your views on some of our players I am not surprised…
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Basha73 said:
Did I say he was a great player? I did say he was a decent Premier League player before Man City. And he didn’t just play for Leeds in the Championship.

You either don’t know who you are talking about or just straight up don’t know what you are talking about.

Given your views on some of our players I am not surprised…
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Oh I know what I’m talking about and he’s shite. You though, pretty clear you cannot distinguish between a good player or a bad player.

The only player I am questioning in our squad is Savona. He’s a long way from being a solid reliable player but getting better.

Aina can’t come back quick enough though
 
finbar70 said:
Oh I know what I’m talking about and he’s shite. You though, pretty clear you cannot distinguish between a good player or a bad player.

The only player I am questioning in our squad is Savona. He’s a long way from being a solid reliable player but getting better.

Aina can’t come back quick enough though
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Do you? It seems to me that you know as much about Philips as you do about planning permission…
 
Basha73 said:
Do you? It seems to me that you know as much about Philips as you do about planning permission…
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Let’s just leave it as you really rate shite players like Phillips and I don’t. You probably agree that Burn and Henderson deserve to be in the England squad also, and I do not

We’ll just agree that you enjoy limited and average players and I do not. That’s entirely your choice and I’ll respect that.

As for accepting 7 years plus to try and build and stand, recent changes or not, as a business owner, I think I’d have alternative options several years ago to leverage all situations

You may not have that line of critical thinking, but again that’s fair enough.
 
finbar70 said:
Let’s just leave it as you really rate shite players like Phillips and I don’t. You probably agree that Burn and Henderson deserve to be in the England squad also, and I do not

We’ll just agree that you enjoy limited and average players and I do not. That’s entirely your choice and I’ll respect that.

As for accepting 7 years plus to try and build and stand, recent changes or not, as a business owner, I think I’d have alternative options several years ago to leverage all situations

You may not have that line of critical thinking, but again that’s fair enough.
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You keep telling yourself that you are right and I will keep laughing at you, chap.

Enjoy your continued ignorance…
 
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