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I think the justification is that even if nobody from Wigan buys a match ticket 5000 visitors will be paying £140k. If it's 20 it will mean they will pay £100k. Do you honestly hand on heart think 2000 more Wiganers will buy a ticket at 20 quid compared to 28. The justification is simple economics.
 
I think the justification is that even if nobody from Wigan buys a match ticket 5000 visitors will be paying £140k. If it's 20 it will mean they will pay £100k. Do you honestly hand on heart think 2000 more Wiganers will buy a ticket at 20 quid compared to 28. The justification is simple economics.



So our club is accepting just having 7,000 home fans every single week and doing nothing to get that number up?

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Are we doing enough to get kids in? (especially those from the poorer areas in the town)
In the premiership days the South Stand was awash with free tickets-why isn't it now when we need supporters more than ever?
if you're a struggling family in this this town are you really gonna take your lad to the match if you're having to pay £30 to get in? Unfortunately this policy will lead to more and more United and Liverpool fans in our town.
 
No problem with tickets being around the £20 level to get ££ from away fans, but why not give 2,000 tickets to schools/colleges/youth centres in the south stand most weeks? no f*cker is in there at the best of times.
 
Furthermore if Bolton and PNE games are £30 doesn't that ruin our chances of a sell out therefore worsening the atmosphere on these days? surely season ticket holders want to see the ground full!!
 
Are we doing enough to get kids in? (especially those from the poorer areas in the town)
In the premiership days the South Stand was awash with free tickets-why isn't it now when we need supporters more than ever?
if you're a struggling family in this this town are you really gonna take your lad to the match if you're having to pay £30 to get in? Unfortunately this policy will lead to more and more United and Liverpool fans in our town.

Although I sort of get your argument, I'm assuming that United and Liverpool both have cheaper tickets if prices is the main reason for supporting a club?
This is an argument that is going to continue to roll on, but as of yet there has been no clear way to attract fans as lower prices has been attempted several times. The club have made their decision and could probably provide the stats to stand by it
 
For fecks sake...
Under 18's are a tenner regardless of the category so yes the club is encouraging the pay on the day youngsters.
Not every game will be category A so if anyone who struggles to afford the pay on the day game then choose a lower category match with much lower prices.
Let remind you the club is NOT a registered charity but a business.
 
Although I sort of get your argument, I'm assuming that United and Liverpool both have cheaper tickets if prices is the main reason for supporting a club?
This is an argument that is going to continue to roll on, but as of yet there has been no clear way to attract fans as lower prices has been attempted several times. The club have made their decision and could probably provide the stats to stand by it
Ridiculous argument
United and Liverpool attract fans due to the success they have and how often they're on TV
 
Just a quick compare against local rivals shows us well priced, simple as that -

Season tickets
Wigan £279 / £329
PNE £400 / £475 / £535
Bolton £350 / £446 / £481
Rovers £349 / £399 / £499

Matchday
Wigan £15-£30 (6 categories)
PNE £24-£30 (3 categories)
Bolton £29-£33 (3 categories)
Rovers £19-£31 (3 categories of 4 prices)

That is just looking at adult prices, Wigan also are the best value for all kids/teen prices
 
No denying our season tickets are value for money - probably too much so if I'm honest.

Ignoring the whys but sadly as a club we just don't attract enough fans and we certainly won't at £30 quid a pop regardless of the opposition. On second glance I think the pricing structure is interesting as we've 6 categories giving us a certain degree of flexibility to move up and down the price range and allows ticketing packages to be put together evening out the cost over a number of selected games whilst maximising our turnover from away fans.
 
Ridiculous argument
United and Liverpool attract fans due to the success they have and how often they're on TV

Not at all. Your quote was that our pricing policy leads to more Liverpool and United supporters. You're directly linking price to the club you support. It's not really the point I wanted to focus on though, rather that you're offering nothing other than you want cheaper prices, despite all previous evidence showing it has no impact on attendance. I too would love to see the ground full, but as you alluded to (whether you meant it or not), it's success that brings the crowd, not the price of the ticket. Similarly, I would love to see our library's and museum's bursting at the door, but despite being free, they aint, hence why they close
 
No problem with tickets being around the £20 level to get ££ from away fans,.

If you drop ticket prices to 20 per game it works out at 23 per month for a season ticket on direct debit. If you can afford to go one game a month you can afford a season ticket for 3 quid more. If someone can't afford put aside less than an hours minimum wage a week to afford a season ticket they have serious issues and absolutely shouldn't be wortying about football.

If you drop tickets to 20 quid that means season ticket holders savings would be about half what it is now. That would reduce the insentive for people to committ to a season tickets. Would that not reduce season ticket sales?

What about playing big games say Villa or Preston or Bolton on a Saturday vs less glamerous ones like Brentford or Hull on a Tuesday night? If CAT A pay on the day is 20, then you are going to have to reduce prices for less attractive fixtures? Wouldnt that likely see a drop in attendance for those games if pepple can pick and choose better games for the same price?

So say you reduce season ticket sales but manage to have a increase pay on the day what happens if season gets off to a bad start and those extra pay on the day fans dont come back if we are not doing well or even if the weather is really bad on some games in winter - the folks deciding on the day would be less inclined to brave the elements to spend money. You end up losing lots of money and numbers by not getting the commitment to the season ticket.

And to do that you've already potentially cut near a third in away ticket revenue.

So expanding on Chets point - compare a CAT A game with current 30 quid price with sold out away support then say we have about 3k pay on the day Latics on top of season tickets. Then compared that to same scenario but 20 quid pay on day - we'd need 3.5k additional Wigan fans to turn up to break even just to balance out the loss in revenue on cheaper tickets. Plus that is assuming that season ticket sales didn't change which probably wouldnt be the case. When you consider we hosted City for 15 quid in a big cup game and we only added about 5-6k to our attendance how realistic is it for us to get over 3.5k extra for a Championship level league game charging 20 quid?

I'm all for reducing prices if it creates sufficient demand to make up or increase the NET revenue. But the numbers just don't look like they add up to do that. We just don't have enough demand rather than the demand is high but all priced out. The season ticket value is so good even if you were only charging 20 per game there's no reason to not have one financially. The club is bending over backwards to make season tickets so cheap and the rest of the prices are just to help bring in the revenue and insentivise people to opt to commit to a season ticket.
 
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Just a quick compare against local rivals shows us well priced, simple as that -

Season tickets
Wigan £279 / £329
PNE £400 / £475 / £535
Bolton £350 / £446 / £481
Rovers £349 / £399 / £499

Matchday
Wigan £15-£30 (6 categories)
PNE £24-£30 (3 categories)
Bolton £29-£33 (3 categories)
Rovers £19-£31 (3 categories of 4 prices)

That is just looking at adult prices, Wigan also are the best value for all kids/teen prices
Thats great, its a good job we dont have to charge away fans the same as match day price of a season ticket. By the way Preston are giving away hundreds of season tickets to kids free with an adult card.
 
So our club is accepting just having 7,000 home fans every single week and doing nothing to get that number up?

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They have not done "nothing".
They have tried various things in the past, even £10 per ticket, and the Wigan public have thrown it back in their faces by not taking it up.
If people cant afford £28 they will not be coming for £20 either, so the club need to increase revenue and the away supporters will do that this season.
Season tickets available at £13 per game is plenty value enough, and they can be paid for monthly, or people could have saved up £6/week since last year if need be.
What do you suggest they do? Bear in mind they need money to run the club and pay the wages of the Championship quality players that people want us to be signing.
 
Just up the season ticket prices as everyone knows season ticket holders by in large will Renew every season so up it forget the casual supporters and charge away fans accordingly.
 
Thats great, its a good job we dont have to charge away fans the same as match day price of a season ticket. By the way Preston are giving away hundreds of season tickets to kids free with an adult card.

As they are paying way way more for the adult ticket that doesn't make it any cheaper for adult/child! Strange how you can make the grass greener elsewhere by bending the facts!!