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Mappred said:
I did have to watch it late, so thanks. I think he has been docked a couple of points, saw it on Twitter. Says something about 2 penalty points, unless that’s something different.
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Yeah, it's penalty points on his license, not championship points. Bit like points on your driving license, means fuck all
 
Mappred said:
I did have to watch it late, so thanks. I think he has been docked a couple of points, saw it on Twitter. Says something about 2 penalty points, unless that’s something different.
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2 points on his license which is nothing more than a slap on the wrist. It was always a win/win situation for MV though. Cause enough damage to LH's car and he win's the title and if he fails, all he has to to do is finish ahead of hm in the last race.
 
Phatnovice said:
2 points on his license which is nothing more than a slap on the wrist. It was always a win/win situation for MV though. Cause enough damage to LH's car and he win's the title and if he fails, all he has to to do is finish ahead of hm in the last race.
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It was so blatent all race that he was trying to take Hamilton out. He wanted to go into Abu Dhabi 8 points ahead so he could win it with a second place
 
Phatnovice said:
2 points on his license which is nothing more than a slap on the wrist. It was always a win/win situation for MV though. Cause enough damage to LH's car and he win's the title and if he fails, all he has to to do is finish ahead of hm in the last race.
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Ah ok, didn’t know that.
 
Makes you wonder if Merc are twisting peoples arms like Ferrari used to when they keep getting away with cheating and driver errors. Did you see Hamilton hit the back of the Red Bull? and still allowed to gain hsi place back, what a joker
 
paz1967 said:
Makes you wonder if Merc are twisting peoples arms like Ferrari used to when they keep getting away with cheating and driver errors. Did you see Hamilton hit the back of the Red Bull? and still allowed to gain hsi place back, what a joker
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paz1967 said:
Makes you wonder if Merc are twisting peoples arms like Ferrari used to when they keep getting away with cheating and driver errors. Did you see Hamilton hit the back of the Red Bull? and still allowed to gain hsi place back, what a joker
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Verstappen moved over and braked at the last minute to try to take him out
 
There is precedent to deduct points for deliberately causing a crash.
This needs pointing out to Max, as I can see him driving them both into the wall.

That precedent was set in 1997 where Schumacher "collided" with Jacques Villeneuve.
The final race of the season, Schumacher was leading the championship when he took out Villeneuve, to then see all his championship points taken away, effectively disqualifying him from the season.

Hope it doesn't come to this.
 
imo deliberately causing a high speed collision is grounds for serious criminal charges, let alone deducted points.
 
Hamilton had the DRS line and was gven the inside line but he came off the accelarator for like 3 seconds.
Max wanted him to pass so he could re overtake him , I actually think Hamilton just became a litttle unsure of what he was doing and simply hesitated Then he went into Max;s draft and got it wrong .. So a genuine racing incident but absoutely an error on Hamiltons part. I say that as a 5k rated iracer too haha
 
paz1967 said:
Hamilton had the DRS line and was gven the inside line but he came off the accelarator for like 3 seconds.
Max wanted him to pass so he could re overtake him , I actually think Hamilton just became a litttle unsure of what he was doing and simply hesitated Then he went into Max;s draft and got it wrong .. So a genuine racing incident but absoutely an error on Hamiltons part. I say that as a 5k rated iracer too haha
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Absolute twaddle
 
Strett said:
There is precedent to deduct points for deliberately causing a crash.
This needs pointing out to Max, as I can see him driving them both into the wall.

That precedent was set in 1997 where Schumacher "collided" with Jacques Villeneuve.
The final race of the season, Schumacher was leading the championship when he took out Villeneuve, to then see all his championship points taken away, effectively disqualifying him from the season.

Hope it doesn't come to this.
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these incidents have already happend this season. I think they have come together twice with Max out of both races and Hamilton surviving one of them. These are inicents where Hamilton actually hit Max and the stewards in reality decided "let them race" rather than get pointy over it. In this weeks race, Max didnt hit anybody, Hamilton hit at least 2 cars. I mean thats right no?
 
Strett said:
Absolute twaddle
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says the king of bollox. In fact when you started talking such bollox on various subjects I genunely thought you were being a WUM cos nobody could be that gullible and ignorant. It took me months to realise youi actually belived half the shit that comes out of your arse
 
paz1967 said:
Hamilton had the DRS line and was gven the inside line but he came off the accelarator for like 3 seconds.
Max wanted him to pass so he could re overtake him ,
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Correct - Max knew that if Lewis passed him at this point he would have the DRS advantage and would probably retake his position a few seconds later. The next bit is where you start to go wrong...

paz1967 said:
I actually think Hamilton just became a litttle unsure of what he was doing and simply hesitated Then he went into Max;s draft and got it wrong ..
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Lewis knew exactly what was happening and that if he stayed where he was, that he would have the DRS advantage. Staying where he was for a few seconds longer was a no brainer.

Max then jams the anchors on and I'm sure I've read somewhere that it was a braking force of 2.4 G's. That's over double the braking force required to carry out a successful, controlled emergency stop in a standard road vehicle. Not exactly a gentle lift on the accelerator and tap on the brakes to make room for his opponent.

It's seems quite clear to me that Max knew what he was doing and that if he took Lewis out he would have had an easier time in the last race because he wouldn't have to win it. I love hard racing and think it's great for the sport to see two talented drivers in equal cars going toe to toe around a circuit, but this was a clumsy attempt by Max to maximise his chances of winning the drivers title.

This is where Lewis is so good. Years of experience have shown him how to respond when pressured but also how to apply pressure that Max doesn't know how to deal with yet. Max is a brilliant instinctive race driver and if he hadn't been under so much pressure, and if he he couldn't see his chances slipping away from him I don't think he would have done this. However, he's young and will be the World Champion on merit, just hopefully not this year.

I'm looking forward to a hard fought, clean race. And a LH win.
 
Phatnovice said:
Correct - Max knew that if Lewis passed him at this point he would have the DRS advantage and would probably retake his position a few seconds later. The next bit is where you start to go wrong...



Lewis knew exactly what was happening and that if he stayed where he was, that he would have the DRS advantage. Staying where he was for a few seconds longer was a no brainer.

Max then jams the anchors on and I'm sure I've read somewhere that it was a braking force of 2.4 G's. That's over double the braking force required to carry out a successful, controlled emergency stop in a standard road vehicle. Not exactly a gentle lift on the accelerator and tap on the brakes to make room for his opponent.

It's seems quite clear to me that Max knew what he was doing and that if he took Lewis out he would have had an easier time in the last race because he wouldn't have to win it. I love hard racing and think it's great for the sport to see two talented drivers in equal cars going toe to toe around a circuit, but this was a clumsy attempt by Max to maximise his chances of winning the drivers title.

This is where Lewis is so good. Years of experience have shown him how to respond when pressured but also how to apply pressure that Max doesn't know how to deal with yet. Max is a brilliant instinctive race driver and if he hadn't been under so much pressure, and if he he couldn't see his chances slipping away from him I don't think he would have done this. However, he's young and will be the World Champion on merit, just hopefully not this year.

I'm looking forward to a hard fought, clean race. And a LH win.
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what lewis thought in those moments is obviously conjecture from us both. Max too. We agree tho that it was tactical as opposed to deliberate, Max thinking "pasS pass mf" and getting towards the pinch point,Hamilton thinking "I aint passing mf" until I can get the dash.
We also know that the message of Max giving up the spot, WAS recieved by Lewis n Merc before the incdent and when this happens it is natural 100% of the time for the lead car to slow down and let he pass happen so Hamilton should simply ahve passed him. We agree mentally he didnt just do that. Which ended uo with him hitting Max, by accident . So I didnt think he deseved a penalty or anything, a racing incident/misjudgment where the cars travel faster than your thoughts.
its always the passing car that is responsible for a clean pass anyway
 
Lewis n Alonso hit when in a title battle, Hamilton and Rosberg hit when in a title battle, Hamilton and even Bottas hit when in a title battle, Hamilton and Max hit when in a battle..

Id argue that Lewis is poor in these situations and in truth its the one reason that Ive never classed him as THE top driver. the niggling doubt that when its a head to head he hits things
 
paz1967 said:
Lewis n Alonso hit when in a title battle, Hamilton and Rosberg hit when in a title battle, Hamilton and even Bottas hit when in a title battle, Hamilton and Max hit when in a battle..

Id argue that Lewis is poor in these situations and in truth its the one reason that Ive never classed him as THE top driver. the niggling doubt that when its a head to head he hits things
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Lewis is the greatest, he never fluffs his lines. This season he has proven this beyond any doubt. He has had to cope with a talented but petulant and very dangerous opponent in Max. Just hope Max doesn't succeed in retiring Lewis in Abu Dhabi, something which he was desperately trying to do in Saudi.
 
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