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Other Clubs News Discussion Thread 2

"Merd" said:
Just my opinion but FFP had the right intent, it has just not had the effect of ensuring a level playing field. I'm more positive that Villa are on the right track than at any time since the early Randy Lerner years, unfortunately it may take a few years to see it in results in the PL, but a League Cup final is a start.
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I agree with this, I don't think they meant to but it ended up doing the opposite of what the intention was. I feel like they wanted to foster more competition and help clubs be sustainable but the rules favour the big teams.

The problem with the rules is that they will never suit everyone, personally I think football should be more socialist. The Football League should be getting a much more sizeable share of the TV money the EPL gets. It'll never happen, the clubs are corporations now.
 
wittonite said:
Bottom of the league Barnsley win 0-3 at promotion challengers Fulham.
Whats going on there ?
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Promotion being handed to the Tesco bags that's what's going on.
They are top because they have been good compared to others but the challengers are pathetic. Fulham, Forest, Leeds keep fcuking up when they have the chance.
 
Melon Donkey said:
Promotion being handed to the Tesco bags that's what's going on.
They are top because they have been good compared to others but the challengers are pathetic. Fulham, Forest, Leeds keep fcuking up when they have the chance.
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Yes unfortunately you're right and the baggies will be up next season. Can't see them staying up though as they won't score enough goals and Bilic won't go all out defensive like Hodgson and Pulis did in the years they were fairly comfortable in the Premier league. I just hope we'll be up and stronger so we can see them tumbling back down.
 
wittonite said:
Bottom of the league Barnsley win 0-3 at promotion challengers Fulham.
Whats going on there ?
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I watched them the other day and they are starting to play like Scott Parker used to sidewards and backwards keep the ball . He was one of the most negative players I've ever seen
 
Villan57 said:
I watched them the other day and they are starting to play like Scott Parker used to sidewards and backwards keep the ball . He was one of the most negative players I've ever seen
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Yeah but he was from Laaahndan weren't he so like any other mediocre or better player from there he was guaranteed media support to the hilt and at least 20 England caps.
 
Villan57 said:
I watched them the other day and they are starting to play like Scott Parker used to sidewards and backwards keep the ball . He was one of the most negative players I've ever seen
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There seems to be a whole lot of sideways backwards hump it forwards British managers out there.
 
Pangloss said:
This isn't the game we have. The 'elite' clubs are not there because of merit but because of decades of simply having exceptional resources that were by far in excess of everyone else. The introduction of FFP has simply shut the door on other clubs getting to this position and thus safeguards those who have benefited from decades of capital accumulation, investment and brand building in ways which would contravene current FFP rulings.
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Decades? PSG? RB Leipzig?
 
JW1985 said:
Yeah but he was from Laaahndan weren't he so like any other mediocre or better player from there he was guaranteed media support to the hilt and at least 20 England caps.
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How true.

Declan Rice is the new Parker. Rice is absolutely woeful at international level, way too slow with his feet, moving and recycling the ball. But he scored two goals in a game if I remember correctly and seems to have become class.

I did think was a good PL player to be fair to him, a kind of George Boateng sort of player and I liked Boateng. But a midfield battler in the PL for an average side where you can look good by making tackles and winning balls doesn’t translate to the international game where it’s about footballing ability.
 
danvilla2 said:
How true.

Declan Rice is the new Parker. Rice is absolutely woeful at international level, way too slow with his feet, moving and recycling the ball. But he scored two goals in a game if I remember correctly and seems to have become class.

I did think was a good PL player to be fair to him, a kind of George Boateng sort of player and I liked Boateng. But a midfield battler in the PL for an average side where you can look good by making tackles and winning balls doesn’t translate to the international game where it’s about footballing ability.
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Exactly why England will never win anything.
 
Wurzel said:
What you have to ask is what has actually FFP achieved? Personally I would say very little. The championship is about to burn down with clubs who are tight upto the EFL rules, and when one falls a whole host of clubs will.

It is simple if football wants to be fair introduce a Europe wide salary cap that is the same for ALL clubs.
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I agree, very difficult to implement too though to be fair.

When you're a certain size of a club the rules are essentially completely different. Salary based on percentage when your revenue is multiple times more than a significant number of clubs within your own league is crazy.

No rules are fair to everyone but we all know which rules level the playing field and which don't.

Another thing is the TV money, as much as it has benefited us as a club surely the wealth distribution should be much much higher for lower league teams. I'd also suggest increasing the award money for cups, it might make them more relevant and for a smaller team it would be literally hitting the jackpot if they were to win 20-30M as well as a trophy.

Greed is all it is, the clubs would never allow it and some of them are so saddled with debt and obligations its probably impossible to more evenly distribute the money without crippling some clubs.

The fact it is still so expensive to get tickets while they gather so much in TV revenue is further proof of the greed. Why cant tickets be at cost for whatever it costs to run the ground for the day or the week. They were so concerned about people staying at home to watch the games but still charge a mint. Its crazy really.
 
BodyButter said:
I'm sure PSG are shitting themselves. Real Madrid's government bailouts have to contravene FFP rules too but perhaps they were before the introduction of FFP.
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I think the Spanish government simply bought Real's training ground for an astronomical sum then loaned it back to them for pennies well before ffp came along.
 
That looked like yet another VAR fuck up to me Didn't Fred just push the Chelsea bloke into the Man Utd player or was I seeing things
 
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