Other Clubs News Discussion Thread 2
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Melon Donkey
I am a little bit perplexed
5 Live pundit. Dunno who she was.
'That'll feel like a win for Fulham'.
No.
It fucking won't.
'That'll feel like a win for Fulham'.
No.
It fucking won't.
Stephen Jay Hawkings
Vital Football Legend
Romero with an overhead kick to make 2-2 was not something I thought I'd be saying half an hour ago.
Melon Donkey
I am a little bit perplexed
Shinner.
CDX_EIRE
Vital Football Legend
Fuck same turned that game off too cause it was shite. Saw one goal all night after watching 73 mins of nothing
Melon Donkey
I am a little bit perplexed
That was the worst overhead kick goal in the history of football.
Was no Pele in Escape to Victory was it.
Was no Pele in Escape to Victory was it.
BodyButter
Vital Football Legend
That penalty at Newcastle is a can of worms. Games are going to finish 16-15 if every bit of pushing at a corner is a penno.
Pangloss
Vital Football Legend
Based on how criminal the keeping was it was more Escape from Alcatraz
Platypus
Controversial but attractive Villan
No.1 Gilbert the Alien From Get Fresh Impersonator
Platypus
Controversial but attractive Villan
I believe it's pronounced "knobhead".
Villan57
Alert Team
Can't agree, mate. The pissed up fans surging into the ground last minute have to shoulder some of the blame, the poor fuckers at the front who had taken up their positions 30 mins before KO, like we were always advised to do back then, have to take some blame. Fans rioting and general bad behaviour that led to the fences in the first place. There are lots of reasons it happened, hence it's never going to be conclusive; you can't pin it on one thing. which is what fans want. It won't bring back my mate Andy no matter what they decided.
Villan57
Alert Team
Came off his shin, but he won't care. Good result for us, as are all draws.
We win 1-0 and everyone else draws every game we win the league
BodyButter
Vital Football Legend
Yep, that's what I was writing about further up. Other teams taking the minimum from games is always the best result for us much of the time.
There will be times when it isn't. Last night's games are a classic example of mostly favourable. I say that within the frame of us wanting to be in CL places and bearing in mind our unimpressive GD. And we also have to factor in we will actually drop points ourselves.
Fulham bagging a draw would have been great.
Everton taking the win was better than a draw, I think. That's based on the belief that come May, Bournemouth will be higher up and closer to us than Everton will be. They've had a slump but they'll probably start picking up points again. Everton I think will finish top half but out of the European slots.
Toon v Spuds was perfect, though. Like Bournemouth, they both had too many points already before last night, so that went well.
And as yesterday's wish list post went pretty well, I'll do one for tonight too. And I do this on the realistic basis of us having a tough away game that we'll do well to come away with points.Arse v Brentford: Heart says Brentford win to peg back Arse but Brentford have been a dangerous wild card this season. A win puts them two points behind our current position, so head says draw.
Burnley v Palace: No brainer for a win for Burnley but a draw is is the best outcome we could realistically hope for, I think.
Wolves v Forest: A meaningless game in terms for us but I'd happily see a Wolves win to keep Forest down there. I'd be delighted to see them relegated. I despise Maranakis.
Leeds v Chelsea: Another game where a draw isn't what we'd want in a perfect scenario. Leeds will be down there all season but if they can take something from Chelsea, let's have it.
Bin Dippers v Sunderland:
Fuck it. Let's have Sunderland do them, just for the lulz, even if it isn't a good result for us.
CDX_EIRE
Vital Football Legend
Its mad, 7 pts between Chelsea in 3rd and Fulham in 15th. We have to hang on until Ollie wakes up, or we can add some quality in January. Our attack looks unsustainable, with over 50% of our goals coming from outside the box.
Arse v Brentford: Heart says Brentford win to peg back Arse but Brentford have been a dangerous wild card this season. A win puts them two points behind our current position, so head says draw.
Burnley v Palace: No brainer for a win for Burnley but a draw is is the best outcome we could realistically hope for, I think.
Wolves v Forest: A meaningless game in terms for us but I'd happily see a Wolves win to keep Forest down there. I'd be delighted to see them relegated. I despise Maranakis.
Leeds v Chelsea: Another game where a draw isn't what we'd want in a perfect scenario. Leeds will be down there all season but if they can take something from Chelsea, let's have it.
Bin Dippers v Sunderland:
However, we're doing what has always been said: if you are solid defensively, you always have a chance. 2nd-best defense in the league after Set Piece FC and 2nd or 3rd-best defense by "xG from Open play". We've done a 180 from Unai's 2nd second where we were free scoring but conceded 60 league goals in a season. 11 conceded in 13 at the moment, putting us on track to have only 35-40 goals against come the end of the season.
In terms of other teams. I think we want United, Newcastle and Liverpool to lose as many games as possible. The rest of the league will take care of itself IMO.
An example for me is United vs. Spurs. Both finished woefully low last year but United went and bought real quality up top. Mbuemo alone is mitigating a lot of Amorim's stupidity. Spurs don't have match match-winning quality like that. Newcastle will be back up and around us, theres hysteria around them but if they keep Hall and Livramento fit they'll eat up ground and get back in the picture. Liverpool have so much quality, if they can afford to spend and get a proper DM and a good CB they'll be back above us too.
IMO this is all starting to look like the 90s again. The difference a manager can make is significant but the quality of player some teams have access to mitigates a lot of weaker coaches. Slot and Amorim, in particular, will benefit from this. Slot should be able to coach his team better defensively but he can't and he'll fix it by buying more players. I think Frank would be the one sitting pretty had he got Mbeumo at Spurs like he wanted and not Amorim. Imagine we could give Unai one more dangerous attacker like Rashford or Mbeumo. It feels like Unai has been coaching 10 men for 3 years because at any one time there is always one attacker who is just nowhere near the level of the rest.
tarzan
Vital Champions League
I´d try for the striker from Wolves. But I don´t know whether he has a release clause or what our budget is. I guess we need to get our new guy to pull a fairly large rabbit out of the hat. Loans are too risky, they are usually players not playing because the selling team can´t sell them.
Larsson. I do like the cut of his jib.
Yep, these two are the key points of how it is and how it will be at the end of the season.
At the moment there are a rake of teams who are currently a threat to us when it comes to us having one of the seats at the top table and the European Degustation Menu we'd dine on again next year.
However, some teams are more of a threat than others long term and, unfortunately, they are the usual suspects such as the three you mention and all three of them will pop the romantic notion of Sunderland in Europe because all three will finish above them. What we have to do is make sure we continue out momentum and press home our current advantage of them and fish above them.
And for that reason I'm sure we'll try to do something to help Unai in January. We may not manage it but I think they, the people who can at the Club, will do everything possible to strengthen. They know as well as we do what an unusually wide goal we are getting to aim at the season.
Six more games before we can strengthen. And only one against a team which isn't currently top 6.
