One rule for them......

Juan Mourep - 11/7/2014 15:36

Again, it is against the LAW to take children out of state schools

It IS NOT against the LAW to take children out of private schools

That's not technically true, nor what the articles you posted say. These are guidelines given to Schools, and Head Teachers make the decision.
 
Also, with Private Schools, they are much more able to accommodate individual teaching plans with students. That's presumably part of what you are paying for?

They are different systems, and as such what really is the problem?
 
HeathfieldRoad1874 - 11/7/2014 15:38

Juan Mourep - 11/7/2014 15:36

Again, it is against the LAW to take children out of state schools

It IS NOT against the LAW to take children out of private schools

That's not technically true, nor what the articles you posted say. These are guidelines given to Schools, and Head Teachers make the decision.


Technically!!!

I repeat.

State school

They both denied committing an offence under Section 44 of the Education 1996 and appeared separately at Nuneaton Magistrates' Court.

The mother was given a twelve month conditional discharge. The father, who changed his plea to guilty, was given a ten month conditional discharge.

They were also ordered to pay £800 towards prosecution costs.

Private school

Families with children in the private education sector are not liable for fines if they take their children out of school during term time for holidays unlike those with children in state schools.

The line "Families with children in the private education sector are not liable for fines"



 
HeathfieldRoad1874 - 11/7/2014 15:45

Also, with Private Schools, they are much more able to accommodate individual teaching plans with students. That's presumably part of what you are paying for?

They are different systems, and as such what really is the problem?



You have just pointed out what this thread is about, the problem is inequality, they are different systems, different rules, and yes not only do you get more freedom if you pay for it, you also find yourself exempt from prosecution, because you can afford it, thank you for acknowledging that :35:

One rule for them............


 
Of course they make it impossible for people to home school their kids. Everybody has to be plugged into their twisted system and if you step out of it you get hammered. They want us all on benefits aswell, dependent and feckless. Then when you are too screwed up to look after your damn kid the same people will come and take it off you.

People need to stop bowing down. You can take your kids on holiday any time you damn well want.
 
Juan Mourep - 11/7/2014 13:28

Wurzel - 11/7/2014 09:24

I would like to know more about the family's attendance record before passing judgment. It would have a massive bearing on the story.


Ahhhh okay, lets focus on the individual and look for excuses for them to be in the wrong while we ignore the actual story.

Are you a journalist?

The REAL story is that if your child goes to a state school you will get fined and get a CRIMINAL record.

IF your child goes to a private school, you will not get fined or get a criminal record.

Do you not agree that is the real story?

No that is not the real story. Do you not think children's education is important? If we just believed stories without understanding the details we would just become a soundbite society manipulating stories for our own political aims?

Don't you agree?
 
If this is the one I read yesterday, they were authorised for two weeks, but not for the extra week and half.

Yup, same one I was close.

Magistrates were told the family went to Australia for three weeks last October which included 13 days' unauthorised absence from school.

Basically the school said a week off in term time was appropriate for a holiday, not three, if I've understood it.
 
Juan Mourep - 11/7/2014 16:15

HeathfieldRoad1874 - 11/7/2014 15:45

Also, with Private Schools, they are much more able to accommodate individual teaching plans with students. That's presumably part of what you are paying for?

They are different systems, and as such what really is the problem?



You have just pointed out what this thread is about, the problem is inequality, they are different systems, different rules, and yes not only do you get more freedom if you pay for it, you also find yourself exempt from prosecution, because you can afford it, thank you for acknowledging that :35:

One rule for them............

Are you saying people who have more money shouldn't try and get the best for their kids?

I've known parents give up much of their own financial freedom just to ensure their kids get the best they can provide.

Surely that is the overriding instinct of most parents?

Why you get so angry about it is beyond me, especially as it is not as black and white as you make out.
 
should have just paid the £240 fine.

They'd have been £560 odd up and could have wasted the teachers time again when they fancied another holiday.

I know 'female first' is normally the definitive source for legal opinion but are parents with kids at private schools really exempt from legal action if they fail to regularly attend ?
 
Wurzel - 11/7/2014 13:13

But of insider info for you parents out there from teachers I know. If you are going to take your kids out of school in term time ring in sick. This way the leave goes down as authorised and therefore doesn't go against them when ofsted comes in. That is why so many schools take a hard line on this. Holiday leave go down as unauthorised and is a black mark against the school.

Good idea :35: