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nuno - to leave? Fabrizio Romano

AdebolaCornflakes said:
I don't believe for one second that when he got the job EM told him that the target was simply to survive.

We were 17th and 5 points above the relegation zone when he was appointed, so I'm sure EM would have been aiming higher with expectations of improving on last season and finishing mid-table.

The points deduction puts a slightly different complexion on it but even so, I think EM will be disappointed that safety was such a close-run thing.
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damnit I should ov gone back a pip.

I imagine everyone is disappointed but now that our season horriblus is done we should be realistic.

nuno done ok given the hand he was dealt. not gonna reherse all the reasons cos u know them.

everyone knows what we need- deadwood out, fewer, targeted players in, stadium sorted out. the fact that we are all broadly agreed on the direction is some decent proof things are moving positively.

#notochopandchange
 
AdebolaCornflakes said:
I don't believe for one second that when he got the job EM told him that the target was simply to survive.

We were 17th and 5 points above the relegation zone when he was appointed, so I'm sure EM would have been aiming higher with expectations of improving on last season and finishing mid-table.

The points deduction puts a slightly different complexion on it but even so, I think EM will be disappointed that safety was such a close-run thing.
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If you look at the form table for the 20 league games he was in charge, we sit in a fairly decent 13th place; one place above Everton who everyone appears to think managed their points deduction admirably.

It would be pretty churlish for EM to blame Nuno for a situation that he played a far larger role in.
 
Woanz said:
This is why he has to go it’s obvious our board/chairman are looking for better so he’s already undermined absolutely no point giving him any money as everything points to a woeful start to the season where the playerz already know the manager is on borrowed time.


It just hasn’t worked no point carrying on let’s just get a clean break & wish Nuno well.
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What a ridiculous post - I expect far more from you Woanz.
It hasn’t worked?
Under the most stressful circumstances with everything against us, he averaged over a point per game and the general quality of play was the best since the Collymore year.
Some don’t live in the real world!
Well played NES and here is to making further progress next season
 
Standard of play going forward was fine

Standard of play defensively needs serious improvement

Set piece play needs serious improvement

Don't think we've really seen any improvement in the last 2 areas in the 20 games

Which is my concern

As they are both VERY OBVIOUS reasons why we don't get anywhere near the points we should be getting with the quality in this squad IMO

We look way better than the results we are actually getting
 
radfordinlondon said:
damnit I should ov gone back a pip.

I imagine everyone is disappointed but now that our season horriblus is done we should be realistic.

nuno done ok given the hand he was dealt. not gonna reherse all the reasons cos u know them.

everyone knows what we need- deadwood out, fewer, targeted players in, stadium sorted out. the fact that we are all broadly agreed on the direction is some decent proof things are moving positively.

#notochopandchange
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SHUT IT I SAID
 
mao tse tung said:
If you look at the form table for the 20 league games he was in charge, we sit in a fairly decent 13th place; one place above Everton who everyone appears to think managed their points deduction admirably.

It would be pretty churlish for EM to blame Nuno for a situation that he played a far larger role in.
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If he stays and guides us to 13th next season then we'd all be reasonably content with that.
 
Thewolf/jimmygordon said:
Standard of play going forward was fine

Standard of play defensively needs serious improvement

Set piece play needs serious improvement

Don't think we've really seen any improvement in the last 2 areas in the 20 games

Which is my concern

As they are both VERY OBVIOUS reasons why we don't get anywhere near the points we should be getting with the quality in this squad IMO

We look way better than the results we are actually getting
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We will not get any improvement defensively with the players we have.

Two young kids and an ageing Willy Boly just will not do, and Nuno cannot pick players he does not have at his disposal.

You talk about Dyche being able to sort out defences; yes he can, but he depends on tried and tested formula's

He has one very promising youngster in Branthwaite with two experienced stalwarts in Tarkowski and Keane.

Defending is about organisation on the field, and you need players to do that organising; we just do not have them.

Getting an experienced defender in to teach Murillo and Omobamidele how to defend should be the first thing on their list, not changing the manager.
 
Thewolf/jimmygordon said:
Standard of play going forward was fine

Standard of play defensively needs serious improvement

Set piece play needs serious improvement

Don't think we've really seen any improvement in the last 2 areas in the 20 games

Which is my concern

As they are both VERY OBVIOUS reasons why we don't get anywhere near the points we should be getting with the quality in this squad IMO

We look way better than the results we are actually getting
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Who would you suggest takes over the hot potato seat, Wolfie?
 
mao tse tung said:
We will not get any improvement defensively with the players we have.

Two young kids and an ageing Willy Boly just will not do, and Nuno cannot pick players he does not have at his disposal.

You talk about Dyche being able to sort out defences; yes he can, but he depends on tried and tested formula's

He has one very promising youngster in Branthwaite with two experienced stalwarts in Tarkowski and Keane.

Defending is about organisation on the field, and you need players to do that organising; we just do not have them.

Getting an experienced defender in to teach Murillo and Omobamidele how to defend should be the first thing on their list, not changing the manager.
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Disgaree

I say it again. Getting the right manager to solve the problems we need to solve would be far better summer investment than spending it on players and hoping they have the answers that a manager doesn't appear to have the answers for

IMO

2 of those defenders you mention wouldn't break the bank either

Even better if Everton went into admin

Bring the manager in and let him bring the players we need as well

It's the system we need to get right first

I think
 
Thewolf/jimmygordon said:
Standard of play going forward was fine

Standard of play defensively needs serious improvement

Set piece play needs serious improvement

Don't think we've really seen any improvement in the last 2 areas in the 20 games

Which is my concern

As they are both VERY OBVIOUS reasons why we don't get anywhere near the points we should be getting with the quality in this squad IMO

We look way better than the results we are actually getting
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Set pieces for improved dramatically.
 
Nuno was dealt a terrible hand. He succeeded a fan favourite, who in the eyes of many, could do know wrong. He had a terrible defence to deal with, 2 of which pissed off to Afcon and came back injured. We had the most first team players at Afcon in the EPL. We then got a point deduction and went to war with PGMOL and the EPL.

I'm surprised he did as well as he did. He got CHO playing well, revived Wood, who was being played completely wrong by Cooper and against all odds, and I mean all odds with a seemingly corrupt system kept us up. Back to back away wins for the first time in the EPL with a shit squad.

This man needs our backing and especially the owners.

King Nuno 😎
 
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