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Juan Mourep

Juan Mourep

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It may not be perfect, but it is ours

The founding principles of the NHS:

Services were provided free at the point of use;
Services were financed from central taxation;
Everyone was eligible for care (even people temporarily resident or visiting the country).

Think about how many people you've known who wouldn't have been able to pay for their treatment, their operations, their chemo, how many do you know are only here due to the NHS?

 
My experience isn't good with the NHS I must say. It damn nearly killed me and I've had to pay my way.

It's a mess.

It needs total reform top to bottom (ie less money at the top and more money to the nurses/junior docs at the bottom) and less management layers.

It needs to be done cross party but our parties are too full of self interest to do what is right for the country so it will continue to be eroded.
 
Yep. You need to take it away from the politicians and put a cross party 20 year plan in place. The way it is used come election time, and run down between, is shocking.

 
HeathfieldRoad1874 - 28/10/2016 21:11

Yep. You need to take it away from the politicians and put a cross party 20 year plan in place. The way it is used come election time, and run down between, is shocking.
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I've been saying this for a long time. It's the only way.
 
When Nye Bevin created the NHS no one could have dreamed how far medical science would come. All the money in the world wouldn't be enough for The NHS.

So the solution in my view is as Heath said is far reaching and courageous change. It won't happen as there isn't a party or leader courageous enough to put the mechanics in place to do it.

Also I go with JF too alot could be done if the courage was taken to strip away the layers of unneeded buerocracy and waste. Then at least they could pay the nurses and care assistants (C.A do the work or nurses now) a decent wage.

Care assistants are on just over £8 an hour. Nurses around £10. My close friend who is a trained nurse went back into The NHS somega years ago after a spell out to raise her children

She went back in as a care assistant as she didn't want the whole pressure of being a nurse. Her job is no different from being a nurse now. The only difference is her job title and pay
 
Too little too late. Clinging on by the skin of its teeth. Privatisation will come and it will come because there is no other choice. The Health Service is crippled. Crippled by too many people using the service, too many people not using the right services, too many people not being responsible for their own health. Added to all those pressures are struggles to recruit to Nursing vacancies, the struggle to train Adult Nurses now in the UK and the measly wages the Nurses/Junior Doctors are getting paid. Its too late, there is too much to change.

Community Nursing is where I work as a Nurse. I've never seen the health service in such a mess. Remember aswell, with less beds being available in hospital more focus is coming onto the community, caring for people in their own homes. We have a depleted team where we can't recruit and people are going off sick due to the pressures. Demanding and downright rude and abusive patients. Patient's who have no 'patience' whatsoever and we have a social care system which doesn't work since selling it all off privately. The government like to feed you a different story- that all is well. Trust me, it isn't. The staff are doing their absolute upmost but there's only so much you can do. Years and years of mismanagement and to me there is no way back. I predict within 15 years i'll be working for some private healthcare firm. The NHS has already started selling off contracts to Richard Branson's new Virgin Healthcare.
 
Yes it is a worry, my daughter is in her last year at Uni training to become a paediatric nurse. The other day whilst on placement there was just her and her mentor looking after 20 sick children . even the ward clerk was off , so they had to do all the admission and discharge paperwork.

If I had been a parent of one of the patients I would not have been happy.
 
Not been helped by the surrender of the action on obesity Cameron was set to launch. May has watered it down to a total waste of a chance of helping stop that epidemic which is costing the NHS more and more money.
 
Yes this is very worrying.

Child obesity rates have shown a small rise in the past year in England, figures show.
The proportion of 10- and 11-year-olds who were obese in 2015-16 was 19.8%, up from 19.1% the year before.
Obesity among four- and five-year-olds - those in Reception year at school - hit 9.3%, up from 9.1%.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-37859484
 
There was a decent programme on this week, think it was dispatches. They had the original document with a proper action plan and then the watered down rubbish May had published.

It's time the country grew up really and realised the NHS cannot cope with all these new man made diseases. Bit of self determination and self help wouldn't go amiss.
 
I just want to say you want to avoid the American system at all costs.

I got my ACL replaced in April and my insurance company has tried to dodge payments you can imagine the shock I got when I got a letter a month ago demanding $27k from the Hospital because my insurance company werent paying up.

Throw in recent issues I;ve had with my stomach and being on 3 or 4 different types of drugs and bounced around doctors because they want to treat symptoms and not the problem.

Ireland is a shambles of a system but at least all the stuff I had as a kid and even til now never totaled more than a few thousand. I've easily spent more in the past 3 years in the USA than my entire 24 years in Ireland multiplied by 10.
 
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