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SE1_Gills said:
Wrexham did it by spending huge amounts of money on wages.
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Indeed.

Brad Galinson is a rich man but he's not in the same league as a literal Hollywood star like Ryan Reynolds.

Various sites are stating that BG's net worth is around $85M (nice), whereas Reynold's is $350M (nicer).

Also the other Wrexham owner, Rob McElhenney, is worth about $50M.

Having just typed that out, I think I would now have preferred BG to have forked out a bit more for the right players and staff 🤭
 
SE1_Gills said:
Wrexham did it by spending huge amounts of money on wages.

Not sure how good that advice is, nor whether the G's would have the appetite for it.
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Yes, Wrexham appear to have a big budget but that's not my point. Their promotion from National League to L2 to L1 took alot more than just money. The man I alluded to. Harvey, played a big role in terms of strategy, if you look him up on Wiki etc., you'd see his background and it'd be clear just how he would add value to U.S. money men new to UK football. Budget is obviously important but WrexhamS progress has been about more than just cash.
 
Someone on the Radio was talking about both Birmingham and Wrexham being near the top of League One due to their riches and yet being behind little old Wycombe, until someone else pointed out that Wycombe's backers are also filthy rich.

Despite Scally's protestations over the years, there are investors who are interested in the right lower league sides. They just want full control of them.
 
With Steve Bruce looking like he might be leaving Blackpool sooner rather than later.I was wondering if he might fit the bill in the short term?Not as manager more as a mentor type advisor to Brad Galinson or and our Manager.
It might seem odd post Clemence to bring in Bruce but he clearly spoke to someone about the Gillingham.But what he said before that was he wants to help a new chairman. I think Brad might fit that brief .
 
I wonder whether Mark Warburton may be a possible for the DOF job as he was Sporting Director at Brentford before becoming manager and has also worked as a trader in the City. His wiki page says:
Warburton cites parallels between trading and football management, including teamwork, communication, competition and man management.

His brain may also be more tuned in to the new stats and xG stuff for that reason.

If he did come in as DOF though, it would have to be with Bonner's approval or may be a disaster. They would have to be able to work together.
 
Scally bought success towards the beginning of his ownership - just as Wrexham are doing now.

Carl Asaba was bought for £1.7m in today’s money.

Paul Shaw, £1.1m.

Chris Hope £0.9m.

Hess £0.7m.

Marlon King £0.7m.

I know that the transfer market is very different today, but we did buy success back in the glory days.
 
We are a few short weeks from the transfer window. Targets for any incoming (or out going) players will already have been identified to improve this squad.
Now is definately NOT the time to get rid of a decent manager with yet another expensive pay off.
The interview process could take us up to the transfer window anyway and then leave any incoming manager with panic buying options or having to proceed with players already identified.
Bonner HAS to complete this season and be judged on that.
He's had us top and deservedly won manager of the month. He's struggled to maintain that level with the team but we need to back him and get this squad of mixed abilities and varying enthusiasm's fine tuned for the big push. It is there because we've all seen it.
Ship out the doubters and bring in the warriors!
 
It's entertaining to speculate and discuss strategies and personalities but the truth is that success and failure are their own witness. A DoF is lauded when it works and suddenly every fan wants one then there is a spectacular failure and their stock sinks, likewise individual managers.

Our immediate position isn't great but I'd be loathe to see Bonner go before the end of the season. I don't believe we have seen his worth yet and any number of managers have recovered their team's fortunes spectacularly from similar points. Anyone brought in now is saddled with undue pressure and expectation from the off but has limited levers to pull.

All the data/stats based stuff and a DoF are not only on trend but allow owners to think they have more control. It's hardly surprising they have bought into it because historically managers could blind them with supposed inside knowledge, contacts and understanding of footballers. No names but some exploited that situation to employ family and friends and to enrich themselves.
 
Trashbat said:
Scally bought success towards the beginning of his ownership - just as Wrexham are doing now.

Carl Asaba was bought for £1.7m in today’s money.

Paul Shaw, £1.1m.

Chris Hope £0.9m.

Hess £0.7m.

Marlon King £0.7m.

I know that the transfer market is very different today, but we did buy success back in the glory days.
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Good point and each time we have backed a manager heavily it has led to a prolonged financial hangover and associated lack of success on the pitch.
 
Trashbat said:
Scally bought success towards the beginning of his ownership - just as Wrexham are doing now.

Carl Asaba was bought for £1.7m in today’s money.

Paul Shaw, £1.1m.

Chris Hope £0.9m.

Hess £0.7m.

Marlon King £0.7m.

I know that the transfer market is very different today, but we did buy success back in the glory days.
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Yes, but Akinbiyi would bring us in about £4 million in todays money now to fund it, then.

Have Wrexham sold anyone for big bucks?
 
Trashbat said:
Galinson’s do have full control over GFC. Scally has as much control as the other minority shareholders I.e. zero.
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That was the point I was making.

Scally's protestations (for about 15 years) that I was referring to were that there was no one else out there who would be willing to buy the club.

What he really meant was the no one was going to put money in for a minority stake while someone who didn't put any money in kept a vice like grip on ownership, just drawing their remuneration out of that investment.
 
There`s no doubt that having a large playing budget helps teams to achieve success. But, it`s not always a guarantee of success. Take Salford City - until recently, that club probably had the wealthiest owners in the EFL, yet they have genuinely struggled to step forward. They still have more than decent wealth behind them, but so far remain a team that performs under par.
 
Am I right in saying that NL teams promoted into the EFL are not subject to FFP rules for three years? If so this has been very beneficial to Wrexham. Other teams with wealthy owners who are already EFL members, like us for example have to comply.
 
Be interesting to know where BG thinks our problems lay.

Think now would be a good time for a fans forum. Get the owner, Captain, Manager and fans in a room together. What could possibly go wrong🫣😉
 
PhilK66 said:
Am I right in saying that NL teams promoted into the EFL are not subject to FFP rules for three years? If so this has been very beneficial to Wrexham. Other teams with wealthy owners who are already EFL members, like us for example have to comply.
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I do hope you haven’t stumbled on the new project! Not a penny more until we’re down?
 
GillsBluenose said:
I wonder whether Mark Warburton may be a possible for the DOF job as he was Sporting Director at Brentford before becoming manager and has also worked as a trader in the City. His wiki page says:
Warburton cites parallels between trading and football management, including teamwork, communication, competition and man management.

His brain may also be more tuned in to the new stats and xG stuff for that reason.

If he did come in as DOF though, it would have to be with Bonner's approval or may be a disaster. They would have to be able to work together.
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f the stats and xG crap.

Back to basics for me. Hard work, tough play and up and at em football with fast wingers for me. Losing with minutes to go needs a throwing the kitchen sink mentality from team and fans.
 
If this was part of the clubs strategy or plan then Bonner was given the task with the players we had at the beginning of the season and it is down to him and only him to fix it.

He needs to be given until the new year or end of the season to do what he is paid for without any more talking or laying blame elsewhere.

Or we have to accept the club has no plan or direction. If they think pass the ball around at the back and slowly build is the way relying on xG and stats then they cannot be trusted to choose a better manager. A manager is either good enough at the basics or not and no matter what they say the fans want to see the ball moved at speed from back to front and the ball being zipped into our forwards.
 
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