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NEW THREAD FOR ALL THINGS TAKEOVER

Wlatic

Vital Reserves Team
Right so they save the club from liquidation create academy to secure our future with young players be it English maybe spanish
Eventually with luck and prudance they get us higher in the English football tier of football
If they do sell players for A profit i will accept that
Whelan did the same or would you prefer where we are now at. Rock bottom feckin clueless heading for oblivion come on Franko let's give them a chance
That's what I was thinking. From where we are now getting youth players for a few seasons and selling them for 40m Vs 2.5m sounds great!

We've also generated interest from other bidders and generally it means they'll keep an eye out.
 

bickymon

Vital Squad Member
If that's their plan then the joke will be on them. There is no money to be made in English football unless you are in the Prem and if they want to try and play money ball they will have to actually spend some money bringing players in as we haven't got anyone worth anything to sell.

If they plan to take 3 of every 4 quid that comes into the club it will be more like for every 4 quid the club costs to run the club itself will generate 1 and they'll be subsidising the other 3.
Let's give them a chance before hanging them out to dry
Like I said but for them we would most probably be liquidated nobody else where willing to jump in and help until now
 

pie eater

Vital Youth Team

king_dezeeuw06

Vital Football Hero
Let's give them a chance before hanging them out to dry
Like I said but for them we would most probably be liquidated nobody else where willing to jump in and help until now
If i remember correctly admin said there was another offer in at the same time presumably from Royle so we'd not have been liquidated I think we'd be going through the same process or maybe even had it over and done with.
 

Yon Mon

Vital Squad Member
It may also be a negotiation around what else the stadium can be used for when it is not hosting a sporting event. Unless I'm mistaken, the Council own the land on which the stadium is built and as such have a big say in what can and cant take place on that land.
I wonder if part of the issues around the deal are getting the rugby back at the Stadium full time.
Their offices are situated at Robin Park and they had a matchday fanzone there before lockdown.
All taking money from the stadium owners.

Personally I'd have thought setting up their own matchday catering service would have been in breach of contract but obviously not.

Anyway getting them back to the stadium with a revised rental agreement and on a fixed term would increase revenue.
 

bickymon

Vital Squad Member
I wonder if part of the issues around the deal are getting the rugby back at the Stadium full time.
Their offices are situated at Robin Park and they had a matchday fanzone there before lockdown.
All taking money from the stadium owners.

Personally I'd have thought setting up their own matchday catering service would have been in breach of contract but obviously not.

Anyway getting them back to the stadium with a revised rental agreement and on a fixed term would increase revenue.
Na leave them where they are their doing fine
 

bickymon

Vital Squad Member
If i remember correctly admin said there was another offer in at the same time presumably from Royle so we'd not have been liquidated I think we'd be going through the same process or maybe even had it over and done with.
Like I say let's just give the Spanish a chance from what I'm reading you seem to have something against them what if you don't mind me asking is the problem that you don't like about Spanish deal
 

Kenny Morris

Vital Squad Member
Well a complete lack of support since it happened may be a clue ?
Again, how do you know this?
Have you been with her and/ or listened to phone calls and zoom meetings etc?
You don't have a clue, so you are only surmising.
Just because she hasn't been posting or shouting about things doesn't mean she hasn't been doing anything.
 

pie eater

Vital Youth Team
Personally I'd have thought setting up their own matchday catering service would have been in breach of contract but obviously not.
There's plenty of chip/burger vans park over the bridge - they also take revenue away from the stadium owners. The Brickmakers arms takes revenue away on latics match days.

There's a limit on how far the stadium owners can go with regard to controlling where fans can eat and drink before kick off. They already get all the profits from inside the ground, and if they upped the rent for the warriors, more fans would boycott the inside facilities in favour of spending them in outlets that support the club they support.
 

bickymon

Vital Squad Member
Again, how do you know this?
Have you been with her and/ or listened to phone calls and zoom meetings etc?
You don't have a clue, so you are only surmising.
Just because she hasn't been posting or shouting about things doesn't mean she hasn't been doing anything.
You seem very protective of Nandy
Could you explaine the other day why she said on podcast almost the oposit to what was actually happening
She stated there was a problem with funds she also said she wanted exclusivity to end
.most of what she said was bllx
But day after everything was in everything that was required by the efl was done so
Now im not opening old wounds but lets just say she wanted this to go another way which I'm not going into again
 

Yon Mon

Vital Squad Member
QUOTE="pie eater, post: 2556706, member: 11454"]There's plenty of chip/burger vans park over the bridge - they also take revenue away from the stadium owners. The Brickmakers arms takes revenue away on latics match days.

There's a limit on how far the stadium owners can go with regard to controlling where fans can eat and drink before kick off. They already get all the profits from inside the ground, and if they upped the rent for the warriors, more fans would boycott the inside facilities in favour of spending them in outlets that support the club they support.[/QUOTE]

The stadium owners can't stop burger vans selling over the bridge as they probably have a permit from the council. As for pubs there's nothing they can do about them.
But the worriers have a lease at the Stadium which includes paying a percentage of their matchday revenue and I would have thought part of that lease stopped them opening their own premises for match day use. Which inturn reduces money paid as part of the lease.
 
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Hampton

Vital 1st Team Regular
Again, how do you know this?
Have you been with her and/ or listened to phone calls and zoom meetings etc?
You don't have a clue, so you are only surmising.
Just because she hasn't been posting or shouting about things doesn't mean she hasn't been doing anything.
Not even talking about Nandy 🙈
On about the council - do keep up 🙄
 

king_dezeeuw06

Vital Football Hero
Like I say let's just give the Spanish a chance from what I'm reading you seem to have something against them what if you don't mind me asking is the problem that you don't like about Spanish deal
The fact the EFL, Supporters Club, Nandy and the council all seem to have issues with them. If the Spanish were that good the deal would've been done by now with the SC and EFL passed them.

All parties are desperate for the deal to go through but despite that all 4 previously mentioned parties seem to be reluctant to endorse the deal. If it was just one of them but other 3 gave them the thumbs up then id say it was arguable the odd one out was being difficult but all 4 not being keen sets alarm bells ringing to me. Add to Krasner saying 'I'm not a moralist' in relation to accepting their bid and Martinez seeming keen to state he isn't vouching for them it feels like no one it outright willing to say it but it appears from their actions no one thinks this is a good deal for the club - considering we are in admin that is even more concerning. They aren't going to all be like that if they thought this deal was great.
 
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Hampton

Vital 1st Team Regular
The fact the EFL, Supporters Club, Nandy and the council all seem to have issues with them. If the Spanish were that good the deal would've been done by now with the SC and EFL passed them.

All parties are desperate for the deal to go through but despite that all 4 previously mentioned parties seem to be reluctant to endorse the deal. If it was just one of them but other 3 gave them the thumbs up then id say it was arguable the odd one out was being difficult but all 4 not being keen sets alarm bells ringing to me. Add to Krasner saying 'I'm not a moralist' in relation to accepting their bid and Martinez seeming keen to state he isn't vouching for them it feels like no one it outright willing to say it but it appears from their actions no one thinks this is a good deal for the club - considering we are in admin that is even more concerning. They aren't going to all be like that if they thought this deal was great.
Don't disagree at all KDZ and if it's such a bad deal then the EFL should throw it out.
We could then move onto the dream ticket of the SC, Wigan Council and Pollard with the support of the MP and the local rag - be careful what you wish for here.....!
 

TRUE BELIEVER

Vital 1st Team Regular
The fact the EFL, Supporters Club, Nandy and the council all seem to have issues with them. If the Spanish were that good the deal would've been done by now with the SC and EFL passed them.

All parties are desperate for the deal to go through but despite that all 4 previously mentioned parties seem to be reluctant to endorse the deal. If it was just one of them but other 3 gave them the thumbs up then id say it was arguable the odd one out was being difficult but all 4 not being keen sets alarm bells ringing to me. Add to Krasner saying 'I'm not a moralist' in relation to accepting their bid and Martinez seeming keen to state he isn't vouching for them it feels like no one it outright willing to say it but it appears from their actions no one thinks this is a good deal for the club - considering we are in admin that is even more concerning,. They aren't going to all be like that if they thought this deal was great.
Not doubting that there may be issues with the Spanish bid, KDZ, but as others have said why not come right out and say it.

The EFL have requested further information but not said there is a problem. The SC have said that they were unable to take the opportunity of joining the bid but said it was due to the timing and have said nothing since. Nandy and the council have both made it obvious they would prefer a local bid but neither have said that they have a problem with the Spanish.

They are all being obtuse and no one is saying there is a problem, so maybe they are all just being cautious or following their own agendas.
 

king_dezeeuw06

Vital Football Hero
Not doubting that there may be issues with the Spanish bid, KDZ, but as others have said why not come right out and say it.

The EFL have requested further information but not said there is a problem. The SC have said that they were unable to take the opportunity of joining the bid but said it was due to the timing and have said nothing since. Nandy and the council have both made it obvious they would prefer a local bid but neither have said that they have a problem with the Spanish.

They are all being obtuse and no one is saying there is a problem, so maybe they are all just being cautious or following their own agendas.
I agree everyone's is refusing to call out the elephant in the room - there will be a reason (possibly legal would be my guess). But there is clearly something not right.