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'Racist' Asian sex gangs: MPs demand tougher sentences for grooming young white girls

Asian grooming should be treated as a racially aggravated crime according to some MPs and campaigners Credit: PA

Martin Evans, Crime Correspondent Steven Swinford, Deputy Political Editor

11 August 2017 • 7:16am

Britain's courts should treat Asian Muslim grooming gangs behind the abuse of hundreds of white teenage girls as racially aggravated criminals, leading MPs and campaigners have demanded.

The demand was issued as senior politicians and prosecutors admitted that political correctness may have stopped the gangs being properly pursued and punished after another ring of Asian mainly muslim sex offenders was convicted in Newcastle.

The Attorney General was facing calls to review the sentences of several members of the 18-strong Newcastle gang after it emerged the apparently racially-aggravated nature of their crimes was not reflected in their punishment.

The men, mostly of Pakistani and Bangladeshi origin were convicted of plying vulnerable and underage white girls with drink and drugs before sexually abusing and raping them.

During one of the trials the jury heard how one gang member referred to women as "white trash" who were "only good for one thing".
Amber Rudd, the Home Secretary has called for an end to political correctness
Amber Rudd, the Home Secretary has called for an end to political correctness Credit: PA

The Home Secretary, said that "political and cultural sensitivities" must not stand in the way of rooting out the "sickening" crime.

She said: "Those responsible are not restricted to any single ethnic group, religion or community – it is an affront to everyone in our society and I want to be absolutely clear that political and cultural sensitivities must never be allowed to get in the way of preventing and uncovering it."

Under sentencing guidelines, crimes that include race or religion are considered more serious and the court has a duty to take it into account when sentencing.

But nowhere in the judge's sentencing remarks has the race of the victims been raised as an aggravating factor.

Writing in the Daily Telegraph, Qari Asim, a Leeds imam, says it is for Muslims to confront “cultural prejudices” that have led these men to “prey on white girls, seeing them as easy meat”.

He said: "Everyone in Britain has a responsibility to uphold the law and protect the most vulnerable, and that means British Muslims do too."

Lord MacDonald, the former Director of Public Prosecutions said it was clear these were "profoundly racist crimes" and said the issue needed to be confronted head on.

In 2015 a child molester, Jamal Muhammed Raheem Ul Nasir, was given a longer sentence after the judge ruled that the fact his victims were Asian and from the same community as him, was an “aggravating factor”.
The Attorney General is being asked to review the sentences of some of the gang already jailed
The Attorney General is being asked to review the sentences of some of the gang already jailed Credit: Paul Grover

Mike Penning, a former policing and justice minister, urged Jeremy Wright, the Attorney General to consider reviewing the offences to take account of the racial element.

He said: “Some of them freely admitted that their attitude to these girls was based on race. If that's the case then this is a racially motivated crime and the sentence should and must reflect that.

"I cannot understand, in a case where the police have done brilliantly well, why the sentence doesn't reflect the severity of the crime.

“These were young women and girls that have been violated. Racism comes in many shapes and sizes.

"Lessons have to be learned that it does not matter what the race, colour or creed of someone is. If there is an offence you convict them.

"The Attorney General should look at these sentences, I will be writing to him on Monday."

Newcastle is the latest city where a South Asian gang has been exposed as being at the centre of a child sexual exploitation ring, responsible for targeted abuse against vulnerable white girls.

It follows similar cases in Rotherham, Rochdale and Oxford, prompting calls for a national debate about why there is such a problem within certain communities, particularly those from Pakistan.
Trevor Phillips has said the gangs should be called Muslim rather than Asian
Trevor Phillips has said the gangs should be called Muslim rather than Asian Credit: Graham Jepson

Trevor Philips, former chair of the Equality and Human Rights Commission, said that the grooming gangs should not be called Asians, but Muslims.

Writing in the Daily Telegraph he said: "Labelling this phenomenon an “Asian” crime is therefore an evasion. What these men have in common is not their race or nationality. It is their proclaimed faith."

Shadow women and equalities secretary, Sarah Champion, who is the MP for Rotherham, said political correctness had allowed the problem to fester.

She said: "People are more afraid to be called a racist than they are afraid to be wrong about calling out child abuse.

"We've got now hundreds of men, Pakistani men, who have been convicted of this crime...this is still going on in our towns now, I know it's still going on but we're still not addressing it."
Four of the gang have already been sentenced at Newcastle Crown Court
Four of the gang have already been sentenced at Newcastle Crown Court Credit: Alamy

Peter Saunders of the National Association of People Abused in Childhood added: "It makes sense that the racist element of these crimes should be taken into account when sentencing.

"A number of these men have expressed clear opinions that those white girls are little more than trash to be sexually abused.

“If the situation was different and this was white gang attacking Asian victims, quite rightly there would be an outcry, but because of the whole politically correct culture we have to bite our tongue and are afraid to address the reality. It is a further insult to the victims.”

In another twist it has emerged that some of the victims of Asian grooming gangs have themselves been arrested for using racist language against their abusers.

Sarah Champion has warned that abuse is still being ignored because of political correctness Credit: PA

Detective Constable Maggie Oliver, who helped expose the Rochdale grooming scandal, told BBC Radio 4's PM programme: "I can give you numerous examples of victims abused as children who have been arrested and charged with racially aggravated public order offences for shouting out names that have a racial element to their abusers.

"Why is there no parity in dealing with the offenders? Those girls have been arrested, they have been criminalised. That stays with them for the rest of their lives.”

It has also emerged that Britain's largest police force has failed to achieve any significant improvement in the quality of child protection investigations several months after a watchdog first raised the alarm.

An audit found a string of flaws were still apparent in some Metropolitan Police inquiries involving under-18s, despite inspectors delivering a scathing critique of the work in November.
 
It says a lot when race or religious crime is considered worse than the other stuff they got done for.

This has happened in Rotherham, To Rochdale and now Newcastle. It is probably going on all over the place.

I was interested what jobs they did. Probably taxi drivers.
 
Will my Asian community NOW end the vile misogyny behind the latest child sex gang scandal? No, too many think they still have to licence abuse writes NAZIR AFZAL

By Nazir Afzal For The Mail On Sunday

Published: 02:03, 13 August 2017 | Updated: 02:08, 13 August 2017

It is a pattern we simply cannot ignore. In no fewer than 16 British towns and cities, grooming gangs have been prosecuted for raping young females since 2011, culminating last week in the conviction of 17 men and one woman at Newcastle Crown Court.

With the exception of two cases the perpetrators were from South Asian backgrounds. All but three victims were young white girls.

As the Chief Crown Prosecutor who brought the cases against the Rochdale grooming gang in 2012, I've come to know a disturbing amount about this crime.

And I'm sorry to say that while courts have changed a lot to make justice more accessible to victims, I don't believe that attitudes have changed for the better. If anything, they're getting worse.
Chilling: TV drama Three Girls was about the Rochdale abuse case. This image shows Amber (Ria Zmitrowicz), Holly (Molly Windsor), Ruby (Liv Hill) - (C)
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Chilling: TV drama Three Girls was about the Rochdale abuse case. This image shows Amber (Ria Zmitrowicz), Holly (Molly Windsor), Ruby (Liv Hill) - (C)

Will South Asian communities condemn these atrocities – and take the necessary action? I'm not convinced. As for wider society, we must start to understand what drives this abuse if we want to stop it. Child grooming is happening under our noses – everywhere. At bus stops, in takeaways, on street corners. But we walk past, because we don't see what's happening. And neither do we see the attitudes driving it.

In particular, the appalling misogyny fuelling the growth of grooming gangs has barely been discussed.

I recall a conversation I once had at an Asian wedding where a young man told me, 'men are like gold and women are like silk'. I thought he was going to tell me something profound but shuddered as he explained that, 'if you drop gold in mud you can wipe off the mud, but if you drop silk in mud it's tarnished for ever.'

This encapsulates the hardline bias against women that has become part of the South Asian mindset. It demonstrates how Asian child abusers see teenage girls on our streets. Partly, they hate them because they're free. Girls should be pure and locked up away from temptation. When teenage girls are on the streets or drinking alcohol, the men see them as tarnished goods, available for sex. It gives them a licence to abuse.

This viewpoint wasn't always so prevalent. As a young man, I saw women in Afghanistan going to university in skirts. I marvelled at the Taj Mahal, built by Mughal Emperor Shah Jahan in memory of his wife. And as a Muslim I knew the Prophet himself said that your mother is three times more important than your father.

But over the past few decades ultraconservatism has swept across South Asia, and the killing of unborn babies because they are female is on the rise. There are huge parties to celebrate a boy's first birthday but nothing to mark a girl's. Men can get away with anything and women have become second-class citizens.

Women of all faiths are suffering as a result. In India there have been some of the most sickening cases imaginable. In urban areas with a shortage of toilets, women are terrified of walking to communal lavatory blocks at night because so many of them are being attacked and raped.

The same sickening attitudes towards women in Pakistan and India are now held by growing numbers in British towns and cities – with white girls seen as the lowest of the low.

Many of those involved in child grooming are in loveless marriages. They've been made to marry a girl from their homeland to satisfy extended family and they work hard in low-paid jobs. They often get up in the middle of the afternoon and work through the night six days a week.

This humdrum existence causes pent-up frustrations that quickly turn into aggressive behaviour towards those with more freedom and choice.

For those involved in grooming, the level of control is scary and their wives (they're nearly always married) suffer badly. During one case I asked a woman if she had suspected her husband was involved in grooming. 'Yes,' she said, 'but what could I do? He controlled me, left me with the kids and no money. He made sure I was powerless.' The wife of Rochdale grooming gang leader Shabir Ahmed killed herself.

A number of commentators have argued that it was racism that motivated the Newcastle grooming gang, as they saw the girls as 'white trash'. I won't deny that racism can be an issue. But violent misogyny is the underlying cause – and the bravery of girls to put these men in Newcastle behind bars, as they have in other cases across the UK, is remarkable.

But stamping down on the crime is one thing. What are we doing to tackle the barbaric attitudes behind it?

The fight to protect girls from growing numbers of abusers is bigger and tougher than most imagine.

I sat in court during the Rochdale trial and even some of the victims didn't fully understand what had happened to them. One girl kept referring to her 'boyfriend' raping – and we had to remind the jury that we did not believe him to be her boyfriend.

These were kids with chronically low self-esteem who were very vulnerable. Some had learning difficulties and were being raped by men 30 years older than them. For one young girl, the only way we could get her into court was for her liaison officer to make her a bacon butty and put on a Disney film in the morning. Then she would go in and talk about being raped by men.

That's why it is essential that police get the best intelligence to pursue more prosecutions. I'd also like to see better use made of frontline workers to identify girls at risk.

Cutting services and ending funding for organisations that support girls is making it harder to stop this crime. We can't just rely on the police.

A few years ago, the then Home Secretary made child abuse a national priority and said we needed to end a 'culture of inaction and denial'. She's now Prime Minister – and more in the Asian community should take note of this message. They need to make their voices heard and denounce this evil behaviour.

I know there will be some in my community who talk of being scapegoated by the Newcastle case. There will be talk of Islamophobia and an anti-Muslim conspiracy. Some will even try to play down the crimes committed. It happens every time.

I've spent a lifetime specialising in dealing with uncomfortable cases and I know we can't flinch from difficult conversations. The Asian community cannot go back to victimhood. We need to challenge a misogynistic culture that's getting out of control and we need to talk about the predators in our community. Then we can finally put a stop to young girls' lives being needlessly ruined.

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this seems to have involved a subset of mainly Pakistani muslims. therefore to name it as an 'Asian' problem is a little lazy, not to mention highly inaccurate - to illustrate this lazy stereotyping, exactlyhow many Chinese, Japanese, Hindu/Buddhist South Asians have been involved ?

abit like branding Hitler as a white-Caucasian scandal, is it not ?

to end on a positive note, we are now hearing about the rump of cases and I seriously doubt this is now an ongoing problem on anywhere the same scale - thank Allah/Krishna/Buddha/Jehovah or anyone else you care to name.
 
Sarah Champion just lost her job for referring to Pakistani men praying on white girls. So is it more predominantly Pakistani or Turkish or Iranian or Syrian etc ? Do they all come under a certain umbrella? Are they all Muslim? What's the common denominator and are we allowed to say it ?
 
Nick Real Deal - 16/8/2017 18:05

Sarah Champion just lost her job for referring to Pakistani men praying on white girls. So is it more predominantly Pakistani or Turkish or Iranian or Syrian etc ? Do they all come under a certain umbrella? Are they all Muslim? What's the common denominator and are we allowed to say it ?

It seems if you in the labour party or a supporter, you're not allowed to say who the culprits are nor say that it's a systemic and wide-spread cultural issue - if you do, you're forced out.

All you can do is pretend it hasn't happened, ignore that northern labour local councils were complicit in covering it up for so long and just be 'PC' no matter what the consequences to poor uneducated white British girls.

This is the vision of Jeremy Corbyns UK.

 
And it's just NOT ending anytime soon...

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/edition/news/kurdish-gang-raped-girls-and-plied-them-with-drugs-kbxmwk07d

Kurdish gang ‘raped girls and plied them with drugs’ in Newcastle
Gabriella Swerling, Northern Correspondent

August 24 2017, 12:01am, The Times
One member of a Newcastle-based gang demanded sex from a girl in return for funding her tattoo, a court heard

Allan Baxter/Getty Images


An Asian grooming gang raped and abused vulnerable white girls who they viewed as “commodities”, a court has been told.

The gang, based in Newcastle upon Tyne, controlled the girls with drugs and alcohol, contacted them on Facebook to discuss sex parties and on one occasion demanded sex in return for paying for a tattoo. The women and girls were as young as 13 when the grooming began and they were allegedly pressed into prostitution in return for drugs including ecstasy and cocaine. One girl said that one of the gang had had sex with her when she was unconscious because of alcohol.

Jurors were warned by the judge not to be influenced by recent reporting of other cases with similar facts.

Anne Richardson, for the prosecution, told Newcastle crown court that sex with the gang was almost a daily occurrence for some of the girls. She said the alleged victims were “young, naive women who were in thrall to and under the control of these, for the most part, older and more worldly wise defendants”, adding that they were passed among the men and “treated almost as commodities”. The alleged offences occurred between 2007 and 2014.

Palla Pour, 25, Soran Azizi, 28, Ribas Asad, 29, Heiman Mohammed, 26, and Sama Faiaq Obaid, 29, all of Kurdish descent, deny a variety of exploitation offences including sexual activity with a child, rape, trafficking for sexual exploitation and supplying a controlled drug.