Mourinho, United, Carniero, and Chelsea

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There are going to be a whole lot of distractions for United this season. And a whole lot of media crap.
 
Be careful what you wish for is my message to Utd fans. You look at the sides Mourinho has inherited during his career and Porto aside, every one was ready primed to win the league. All but Chelseas fans ended up hating him by the time he'd left. Look at his track record of signings and how successful they actually were - he's got a very low strike rate!

If he can't get the Utd players onside and firing fast I can see this ending in tears.
 
He won't bring them long term stability or success but he will be good in the short term. He will spend big money no doubt and bring in top level players but he doesn't need to to be honest. Look at that United squad, on paper it is a great squad, the problem was Van Gaals style or lack of.

I find it amusing how United fans have been complaining about LVGs football yet they are happy to have Mourinho in, who of course is well known of free flowing top football...
 
meee93 - 24/5/2016 00:08

He won't bring them long term stability or success but he will be good in the short term. He will spend big money no doubt and bring in top level players but he doesn't need to to be honest. Look at that United squad, on paper it is a great squad, the problem was Van Gaals style or lack of.

I find it amusing how United fans have been complaining about LVGs football yet they are happy to have Mourinho in, who of course is well known of free flowing top football...
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He'll probably stiffen the spine straight away, top CB, DM and CF.

As you say they have enough good players to fill in around that, I expect they'll get top 4 no problem next season.
 
An analysts note I've seen today believes that Jose has been handed a £200 million NET (that's mental!) transfer fund for the targets that he's after.

Add that to the disposals that are likely to happen and that's a cool £250 mil he has at his disposal.
 
Wrong choice for them. Whoever is making the final decision at United on appointing managers is not doing their home work.
 
Real Deal - 24/5/2016 21:02

Wrong choice for them. Whoever is making the final decision at United on appointing managers is not doing their home work.
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I think he'll do well there, he always has done so far at new clubs.

Interestingly, there was talk of him being at the chavs for the long haul this time till it all went pear shaped, maybe he really does want to stay somewhere and build a dynasty, manure would certainly be the place for him to do it.
 
If you're young player hoping to get a chance - you won't join Manure now.

Every single agent knows it and every single agent is now saying just that to their clients.

Manure have shot themselves in the foot because of US sponsors and Shareholder pressure - they haven't made a footballing decision here, it's a financial one.
 
Spursex - 25/5/2016 10:22

If you're young player hoping to get a chance - you won't join Manure now.

Every single agent knows it and every single agent is now saying just that to their clients.

Manure have shot themselves in the foot because of US sponsors and Shareholder pressure - they haven't made a footballing decision here, it's a financial one.
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Not sure why you say that Ex, Manure are in danger of drifting away and becoming the new Liverpool, which in modern times would be completely unacceptable to supporters and shareholders alike.

For a club that is still seen as one of the top 3 or 4 in the world, it makes sense to start acting like one and employ one of the top managers in the world.
 
Big Chiv - 25/5/2016 10:44

Spursex - 25/5/2016 10:22

If you're young player hoping to get a chance - you won't join Manure now.

Every single agent knows it and every single agent is now saying just that to their clients.

Manure have shot themselves in the foot because of US sponsors and Shareholder pressure - they haven't made a footballing decision here, it's a financial one.
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Not sure why you say that Ex, Manure are in danger of drifting away and becoming the new Liverpool, which in modern times would be completely unacceptable to supporters and shareholders alike.

For a club that is still seen as one of the top 3 or 4 in the world, it makes sense to start acting like one and employ one of the top managers in the world.
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It's a short term decision for certain - but I'm certain it's a knee jerk reaction and given his record of leaving carnage in his wake and his record of NOT playing either attractive football or debuting kids - I think they'll regret this sooner than later..
 
Spursex - 25/5/2016 10:52

Big Chiv - 25/5/2016 10:44

Spursex - 25/5/2016 10:22

If you're young player hoping to get a chance - you won't join Manure now.

Every single agent knows it and every single agent is now saying just that to their clients.

Manure have shot themselves in the foot because of US sponsors and Shareholder pressure - they haven't made a footballing decision here, it's a financial one.
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Not sure why you say that Ex, Manure are in danger of drifting away and becoming the new Liverpool, which in modern times would be completely unacceptable to supporters and shareholders alike.

For a club that is still seen as one of the top 3 or 4 in the world, it makes sense to start acting like one and employ one of the top managers in the world.
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It's a short term decision for certain - but I'm certain it's a knee jerk reaction and given his record of leaving carnage in his wake and his record of NOT playing either attractive football or debuting kids - I think they'll regret this sooner than later..
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All the top clubs operate on short term managers nowadays, and it doesn't seem to have done them any harm.
I very much doubt anyone at Citeh expects Pep to be there for more than 3 years, but that's what it's like, so they just get on with it, and hope for 3 years of success.



 
80deg16minW - 25/5/2016 11:30

I think that's going to change Chiv.
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Not sure about that, the new breed of Chairman/owner doesn't appear to favour a dynasty long term manager who has too much power in the club, hence a lot of ' coaches' rather than managers are employed.

It seems that way with the most rich and powerful clubs anyway, whether there has been any real power shift is yet to be seen, next season will be really interesting in the PL that's for sure.
 
Big Chiv - 25/5/2016 12:00

80deg16minW - 25/5/2016 11:30

I think that's going to change Chiv.
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Not sure about that, the new breed of Chairman/owner doesn't appear to favour a dynasty long term manager who has too much power in the club, hence a lot of ' coaches' rather than managers are employed.

It seems that way with the most rich and powerful clubs anyway, whether there has been any real power shift is yet to be seen, next season will be really interesting in the PL that's for sure.
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It will.

My reasoning for saying managers could be in their jobs longer is driven more by the incredible rise in cost of players. I think player development will become more and more important and for that to work a stable management team is necessary.
 
This is quite funny...

http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/premier-league/jose-mourinho-to-manchester-united-managers-name-still-owned-by-former-club-chelsea-a7047866.html

 
steveperryman - 25/5/2016 21:33

They've panicked, that's how i would assess the situation.
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Sponsors can do that to the most zen like executive, especially when they've never faced this kind of adversity before.
 
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