Most expensive away day?
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jeffs right
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Most fans on here dont agree with twentys plenty. Theyre all for getting as much out of the away followings as possible.
king_dezeeuw06
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The Sheffield Chairman said to his fans the other day when they complained about 50 quid a game - if you want to have expensive, exciting singings then you have to pay more, he said he would drop the prices to £20 but he'd have to sell everyone and not spend any money on singings going forward. It's up to the fans what's more important to them cheaper tickets or a better team. But you always hear fans demanding their club sign more players or complain about a lack of spending or ambition but no one ever says their club reduce the ticket prices and not make any signings. As fans we can't have it both ways.
If Villa fans are happy to pay that in such large numbers the owners will take their money and invest it in the team to increase their chances of success.
On here how many of us would be willing to drop tickets on match days to £20 if it meant we couldn't afford Powell as the trade off?
If Villa fans are happy to pay that in such large numbers the owners will take their money and invest it in the team to increase their chances of success.
On here how many of us would be willing to drop tickets on match days to £20 if it meant we couldn't afford Powell as the trade off?
jeffs right
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In the world of football the difference between charging £28 and £20 and cashing in on away fans is just so insignificant and would have no bearing at all on keeping players or not. Players would be sold anyway.
4700 villa fans and 500 Latics fans at £28-00 is around £150,000.
4700 villa fans and 1000 Latics fans at £20-00 is around £110,000.
A difference of £40,000. Can't argue a shortfall indeed but so insignificant in the football world.
8500 Season Tickets at £12-00 for the match equates to around £102,000. A pittance really.
Income is generated or should be from decent sponsorship deals for stadiums, shirts, sell on clauses, TV, advertising and for clubs like us unfortunately selling players irrespective of ticket sales.
Fans basically pay too much because of players wages and costs plus agents fees and the massive amount of money that seems to have to be spent on the circus of running a football club these days.
Now don't get me wrong it's not Latics I am getting at but football in general.
4700 villa fans and 500 Latics fans at £28-00 is around £150,000.
4700 villa fans and 1000 Latics fans at £20-00 is around £110,000.
A difference of £40,000. Can't argue a shortfall indeed but so insignificant in the football world.
8500 Season Tickets at £12-00 for the match equates to around £102,000. A pittance really.
Income is generated or should be from decent sponsorship deals for stadiums, shirts, sell on clauses, TV, advertising and for clubs like us unfortunately selling players irrespective of ticket sales.
Fans basically pay too much because of players wages and costs plus agents fees and the massive amount of money that seems to have to be spent on the circus of running a football club these days.
Now don't get me wrong it's not Latics I am getting at but football in general.
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I couldn't agree more if you were talking about a premier league club awash with TV revenue. But what about clubs outside that arena, smaller clubs with smaller followings and attractions? Clubs like ours for example.
At the last shareholders meeting we were informed the projected losses for the year are expected to be around £10M.
Your philosophy over a full season will add about another 10% to that.
Insignificant?
At the last shareholders meeting we were informed the projected losses for the year are expected to be around £10M.
Your philosophy over a full season will add about another 10% to that.
Insignificant?
king_dezeeuw06
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As henski said if you arent in the Prem tv money wont cover your wage bill. Sponsosoships are worth thousands rather than millions and the cost of players keepings going up. At this level every team probably makes a loss every year unless they can manage some big player sales - which we generally don't that often.
You talk about giving up 40k per home in your example. That works out over the course of a season approaching 1m. Nick Powells wages alone are about 750k a year.
If you are losing money like we did last season and will every year we are at this level (unless we sell prize assets and slash the wage bill) you can't afford to limit any viable revenue stream. As we said before many times they look after loyal fans with outstanding season ticket prices, if we dropped other prices they'd need to go up to compensate and if someone is getting a great deal / rewarded it should be most dedicated in season tickets rather than walk up and away ticket sales.
The question remains would you be willing to drop match day prices for away fans and pay on the day if the trade off was the budget for players which is already one of the smaller ones at this level had to be cut? And our reduced wage structure would make it harder to keep top earner Nick Powell?
No point debating what the amount of cash in football it is what it is and it's that way because of supply and demand - it's not changing like it or not antyime soon. So we have to pay and charge the going rate if we want to give ourselves any chance to compete. If a small club like ours took a 'pricipled stand' and charging less for tickets, offering lower wages, refusing to pay agents fees, etc it would literally be suicide that would see us relegated and the number of fans drop as it's often not the cost keeping people away more the lack of success. Some people only are interested in big glamerous games and no matter how cheap you make tickets they wont turn up to a game against Hull or Rotherham in the championship let alone anyone in L1.
You talk about giving up 40k per home in your example. That works out over the course of a season approaching 1m. Nick Powells wages alone are about 750k a year.
If you are losing money like we did last season and will every year we are at this level (unless we sell prize assets and slash the wage bill) you can't afford to limit any viable revenue stream. As we said before many times they look after loyal fans with outstanding season ticket prices, if we dropped other prices they'd need to go up to compensate and if someone is getting a great deal / rewarded it should be most dedicated in season tickets rather than walk up and away ticket sales.
The question remains would you be willing to drop match day prices for away fans and pay on the day if the trade off was the budget for players which is already one of the smaller ones at this level had to be cut? And our reduced wage structure would make it harder to keep top earner Nick Powell?
No point debating what the amount of cash in football it is what it is and it's that way because of supply and demand - it's not changing like it or not antyime soon. So we have to pay and charge the going rate if we want to give ourselves any chance to compete. If a small club like ours took a 'pricipled stand' and charging less for tickets, offering lower wages, refusing to pay agents fees, etc it would literally be suicide that would see us relegated and the number of fans drop as it's often not the cost keeping people away more the lack of success. Some people only are interested in big glamerous games and no matter how cheap you make tickets they wont turn up to a game against Hull or Rotherham in the championship let alone anyone in L1.
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Kenny Morris
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I agree about the sentiment about football in general, but the £40k is 3 or 4 players wages
