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Vital Football Legend
Do you realise that you just posted the results of a poll that showed a small margin in favour of Remain?
That poll was limited to Wales, where people originally voted to leave. So the tide has indeed turned, even in Wales. Thanks for making my point so well!
The second referendum would be a more informed referendum. Regardless of your reasons for voting out, neither you, nor I, nor Jacob Rees Mogg, could possibly have known the outcome of the negotiations. If they turn out to be better than what we have, the people - me included - will vote for it. But so far so bad. Even David Davis' own department couldn't conjure
up figures that were any better than devastating. That's why he lied to parliament about their existence. Shameful.
Add to that the criminal damage that has already occurred to the NHS and people will realise that this is not worth it. Nor even close.
(Toms would interject here to say that we still won't know the *long term* effects and he optimistically predicts sunlit uplands and unicorns for all. He and you are entitled to be dreamers but the opinion is based on no evidence and - importantly - goes against expert opinion which is imperfect but the best we have.)
Let the people have their say on the best information available. The options should include out with no deal, out on the negotiated terms, or remain. This started with a vote and has to end with one. What are you scared of?
That poll was limited to Wales, where people originally voted to leave. So the tide has indeed turned, even in Wales. Thanks for making my point so well!
The second referendum would be a more informed referendum. Regardless of your reasons for voting out, neither you, nor I, nor Jacob Rees Mogg, could possibly have known the outcome of the negotiations. If they turn out to be better than what we have, the people - me included - will vote for it. But so far so bad. Even David Davis' own department couldn't conjure
up figures that were any better than devastating. That's why he lied to parliament about their existence. Shameful.
Add to that the criminal damage that has already occurred to the NHS and people will realise that this is not worth it. Nor even close.
(Toms would interject here to say that we still won't know the *long term* effects and he optimistically predicts sunlit uplands and unicorns for all. He and you are entitled to be dreamers but the opinion is based on no evidence and - importantly - goes against expert opinion which is imperfect but the best we have.)
Let the people have their say on the best information available. The options should include out with no deal, out on the negotiated terms, or remain. This started with a vote and has to end with one. What are you scared of?