Lisa Nandy article

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Interesting article in the Telegraph today from Lisa Nandy - partly on our takeover and partly on other ownership issues in the game. Posted in full as it’s subscription only, rather than via link. She mentions OCG’s who were interested in buying us. Pity she couldn’t give us a heads up who ‘ H’ is and save us a lot of stress later.
After more than a decade in the Houses of Parliament, Lisa Nandy thought she had seen it all when it came to dodgy backroom deals and self-serving interests, but nothing prepared her for what she found in football. With Wigan Athletic on the brink of extinction last year, plunged into administration by the acts of selfish and callous owners who had bought the club looking to make some easy money, she did what every local MP should do – joined the fight to save her local football team.

She was integral to finding suitable new buyers, but what she encountered, not just in what the old owners had done, but also what was unearthed during the search for new ones, shocked her. It was not just the naked self-interest, the greed and dubious motivations, but the fact people knew these things were going on and had done nothing about it.
It is why she welcomed the Government’s review, which will be led by former sports minister Tracey Crouch, but warns the pressure on politicians and clubs sparked by the Super League breakaway plan must be maintained. “You think you have seen it all as an MP of almost 11 years, but the things that go on in football are incredible,” says Nandy, whose stepfather was an avid fan of Bury, who went out of business in 2019 because of poor decisions by owners.“I was disgusted, to be honest. A little ashamed I did not know about it sooner. It is a national scandal that our national game has been allowed to get into this state. It’s at every level of the pyramid. We have to do something.
“What I realised, and what ultimately made me so angry, was that a sport that was built by working-class people for working-class people had been hijacked by far too many owners who have no interest in them, and no intention of listening to them either.
“There are too many owners who treat supporters with disdain, who disrespect them, refuse to listen and even complain about them. It’s as though the people who want to own football clubs – as well as many who already do – see fans as an irritation, something to be tolerated and managed, not engaged with or listened to. Even saying that aloud, I cannot believe it. That is not football, it is nothing to do with the game that millions of people love and which is woven into the social fabric of towns and cities, which bonds families relationships, brings people together in a way few things manage to do.“Lives are intertwined with their football clubs, they are loved and cherished, yet that is open to abuse by people who either fail to understand what these clubs represent or simply don’t care. English football has been preyed on by individuals and groups who are, to varying degrees, interested only in themselves. Some of them don’t even like football and have very little interest in it. Which inevitably begs the question why?” Nandy reveals that even a League One club such as Wigan had plenty of people interested in buying it. These included groups with alleged “links to organised crime.”She adds: “You had such varied types of potential owners who are very difficult to assess beyond what they initially offer as a bid and a loose plan for the future … these global networks, which are opaque and very difficult to untangle. There were groups, and I have to be careful here, but who had suspected links to organised crime, backed by people who were very difficult to pin down on anything and cannot be held to account. There are criminals involved, and it appears to be an open secret.

“The fact football clubs can be bought by someone borrowing all the money to pay for it and then transfer that debt on to the club, that’s not illegal but …”
Everybody knows who Nandy is referring to. Manchester United were bought by the Glazer family, who borrowed the money to finance the deal and then transferred the debt on to the club. It is the club that repays the loans and the interest, while they pay themselves millions of pounds in dividends each year.
When news of an attempt by the biggest clubs in the country, including United, to launch a breakaway Super League emerged, against the wishes of supporters, Nandy was reminded of the blatant self-interest that had led Wigan to the brink.

“What we saw with the Super League were the owners of the biggest, richest and best supported clubs in the country behaving in a similar way, the difference was they were already owners not prospective ones,” she saysThese billionaires, many of them living abroad and barely lifting a finger in terms of the day-to-day running, had control. Now it was a case of exploiting that. What can this club do for me and how much more money will I make? The fans? Who cares? It’s my business and I will run it how I want, it was so sad. The mobilisation of fans in opposition to the Super League should embolden all of us that we can force that change. The level of anger didn’t surprise me … this was a pressure cooker environment and the Super League was the moment the safety valve blew. The anger forced the Government to take notice and the big clubs were forced to backtrack rapidly.”
But will the Government really intervene when the emotions have died down and public interest is focused elsewhere?
“The Government, for a long time, knew the problems,” Nandy adds. “But didn’t think it was worth having the fight. I’m not the first MP who has had their eyes opened. It took the outcry that greeted the Super League for them to realise they had to do something.”Nandy’s unhappiness with the Government’s handling of football extended to the Newcastle takeover saga, when Mohammed bin Salman Al Saud, the crown prince of Saudi Arabia warned the Prime Minister on June 27 last year that relations between the nations would be damaged unless the £300 million buy-out was approved. That led to Johnson tasking one of his senior aides, Lord Lister, to investigate the matter, before the Saudis withdrew from the process at the end of July.
“What has this country become when an elected Prime Minister is effectively threatened by a foreign dictator, who warned there would be serious consequences for this country if he did not get control of Newcastle United?” Nandy says. “When did Britain become a country that would allow itself to be approached in this way by a dictator, let alone act on their behalf to try and appease them?”
Despite sitting on the opposite side of the House, Nandy admires Crouch and is convinced she will allow fans to drive the review. “I’ve got high hopes for the review led by Tracey Crouch. I know her and I rate her. She is totally committed to the game and won’t pull her punches. What I am worried about is that everybody knows what’s been going on and has done nothing to stop it. We’ve not had a more populist government in my lifetime. One thing they do respond to is public pressure and think how many football fans there are in this country. They rose up and this review has to have some teeth. It has to make concrete recommendations that are implemented, and I don’t think the Government will be able to resist that.”“We already have a report from a parliamentary select committee that highlighted these problems, and it’s on a shelf gathering dust. Nothing changed and we have to keep the pressure on them. There has been a calculation in government that it’s job done. We’ve announced the review, there has been a public debate, but it will move on. They thought ‘the Super League has collapsed and we’ve got some positive headlines out of it.’
“No, that’s not what needs to happen. No more toothless reports, no more sweeping this scandal under the carpet. No more patronising fans, a collective patting on the head, telling them they’ve been heard and we care.
“We need the Government to give fans the power to protect their clubs. The power that resides in the hands of a very small group of people, who can effectively do whatever they want with the clubs, give it [power] back to the people who actually make the game what it is – the supporters.”
 
Excellent article. It is now up to the young people to protect the game. To take action when necessary, as they have done recently. People have power, many don't realise how much power, when they act in numbers.
It is going to be a long fight, these money men wont give up control easily, they will only release the reins, when the money pit dries up.
Keep up the fight Nandy, you sound like my kind of girl, although you never answered my letter, when I defended Mr Whelan over his so called racist remarks.
 
Good article which I hope gets a decent audience, gains momentum & can get something actually done rather than the usual whitewash. On a similar vein the protest today at Old Trafford has given some much needed publicity albeit a few negative bits. Listenin to Souness of Sky was a pathetic as he's was saying someone could have been killed blah blah.....yes totally wrong that flares were thrown as well as cans etc but you will always get some dickheads in all protests. As I've said in other posts tho it's only when the 'big' clubs do or say something that stuff gets a proper media attention or action taken. I still also feel that those potential breakaway clubs should be punished....will they, will they f@ck as like.
 
I do hope Man Utd get a points deduction for not completing a fixture like Macclesfield did although I suspect they will get off like Bolton did. Plus a huge fine for not controling their so called fans during Covid.
Sympathy for their fans? None whatsoever. The club already compete in the Champions Greed League and the Premier Greed League. The ESL is no different.
Stuff Utd.
Is there some sort of election on the horizon? Timing seems quite opportunist by the paper and Lisa.
Be on Johnathon Ross or Graham Nortons show next.
 
I do hope Man Utd get a points deduction for not completing a fixture like Macclesfield did although I suspect they will get off like Bolton did. Plus a huge fine for not controling their so called fans during Covid.
Sympathy for their fans? None whatsoever. The club already compete in the Champions Greed League and the Premier Greed League. The ESL is no different.
Stuff Utd.
Is there some sort of election on the horizon? Timing seems quite opportunist by the paper and Lisa.
Be on Johnathon Ross or Graham Nortons show next.

No, there is no election on the horizon for LN.
In case you have had your blinkers on for the past few months LN has been trying to raise our situation at various times and has taken the opportunity to raise it again on the back of the latest football owner scandal. As we all know most people will not raise an eyebrow at what happened to us, but tagging it on to the latest events can do no harm
 
If anything s to be done then the true football supporters in Parliament need to get their act together, put away their petty party politics and join a cross party group to push this review through and acted upon instead of merely paying lip service to it. Nothing will happen if it remains the territory of the government, it will simply be swept under the carpet and the report shelved for posterity. If LN is so enraged by the behaviour and the crooked nature of those in charge then she needs to push for a cross party committee to look into this and possibly table a motion in the house of commons to investigate her claims.
 
Ok Ken if that's how you see it that's fine. Up to you.

TBF Jeff think Ken has a point in that she (LN) is using the current ESL debacle to highlight our case which imo is good news which keeps our situation in the media & you never know could lead to something getting done or even sanctions / rules being made to owners. You may not like LN but I'd have thought you'd at least be a tad grateful that she is still taking as many opportunities as possible to highlighting our case.....I certainly am grateful for what she has done & if any of it has been politically motivated then fair enough. Using this latest footballing farce of the ESL is a good thing to hang our story due to the big clubs involved cause rest assured Jeff it's only when something happens to the big clubs does anything get done or changed. If our situation was to somehow happen to Utd / Chelsea etc then 100% there would be a major enquiry, zero punishment to said club & reform would be done sooner than you could write a complaint email to the PL.....one rule for the big clubs & another for the little uns like Latics eh!!!
 
I do hope Man Utd get a points deduction for not completing a fixture like Macclesfield did although I suspect they will get off like Bolton did. Plus a huge fine for not controling their so called fans during Covid.
Sympathy for their fans? None whatsoever. The club already compete in the Champions Greed League and the Premier Greed League. The ESL is no different.
Stuff Utd.
Is there some sort of election on the horizon? Timing seems quite opportunist by the paper and Lisa.
Be on Johnathon Ross or Graham Nortons show next.

Or the Telegraph asked her to write the article, given her recent experience Re WAFC

You would not expect the Telegraph to just publish a politics neutral article written by a random opposition MP. Also she is shadow foreign sec not shadow DCMS sec, which tends to suggest they went to her for recent experience not politics or her shadow role for Labour.
 
If anything s to be done then the true football supporters in Parliament need to get their act together, put away their petty party politics and join a cross party group to push this review through and acted upon instead of merely paying lip service to it. Nothing will happen if it remains the territory of the government, it will simply be swept under the carpet and the report shelved for posterity. If LN is so enraged by the behaviour and the crooked nature of those in charge then she needs to push for a cross party committee to look into this and possibly table a motion in the house of commons to investigate her claims.

You obviously have not read the copy of the Telegraph article that MIW posted and are posting your blinkered opinions.


Despite sitting on the opposite side of the House, Nandy admires Crouch and is convinced she will allow fans to drive the review. “I’ve got high hopes for the review led by Tracey Crouch. I know her and I rate her. She is totally committed to the game and won’t pull her punches.

in case it is still not obvious Tracey Crouch is a Conservative MP.
 
Or the Telegraph asked her to write the article, given her recent experience Re WAFC

You would not expect the Telegraph to just publish a politics neutral article written by a random opposition MP. Also she is shadow foreign sec not shadow DCMS sec, which tends to suggest they went to her for recent experience not politics or her shadow role for Labour.
Oddly enough Oliver Dowden (the actual dcms) is and has remained absolutely silent. Still baffles me that people have a problem with Nandy and not with Dowden or any one of those Tory MP’s given the large majority of seats they have.
 
Oddly enough Oliver Dowden (the actual dcms) is and has remained absolutely silent. Still baffles me that people have a problem with Nandy and not with Dowden or any one of those Tory MP’s given the large majority of seats they have.
Dowden is not very bright and can only do what Johnson allows, they are all shit scared of having an independent thought.
Add to this, Johnson does not have an interest in football, not even Lord Aston Ham's West Villa
 
Admin, move this thread to off topic please, Nandy and Wigan Athletic have nothing in common.


T&C - I posted it as I assumed many wouldn’t have read it. The formatting such as font size, lack of paragraphs isn’t great but it was done due to character limit when posting on here. It is about Latics and is about football. Admin can move or delete it if they wish but stop being so mard about it.