Leicester win appeal

[FeNris]

I did think I understood the technicality of how they escaped despite not agreeing with it.

But I thought psr was judged July 1st to June 30th irrelevant of clubs account period. So surely this should include Leicester irrelevant of relegation. Or are they saying any club that gets relegated can ignore the relegation seasons PSR as neither EPL nor EFL can punish them for losses that year?

If EPL membership ends on 13th June why would any club have an accounting period that finishes before then? All a mess

Well my understanding that technically speaking a club is or is not a Premier League club until the paperwork has been done. All a formality of course, but I am pretty sure some official registration and so forth has to take place no?

 

[TheHistoryMan]

I did think I understood the technicality of how they escaped despite not agreeing with it.

But I thought psr was judged July 1st to June 30th irrelevant of clubs account period. So surely this should include Leicester irrelevant of relegation. Or are they saying any club that gets relegated can ignore the relegation seasons PSR as neither EPL nor EFL can punish them for losses that year?

If EPL membership ends on 13th June why would any club have an accounting period that finishes before then? All a mess

You appear to be correct. Page 14 paragraph 53 of the report states that Leicester’s own accounting period is irrelevant with respect to their liability to the alleged breach of the PSRs for the 22-23 season. However Page 22 paragraph 59 refers to the ‘adventitious decision as to its accounting reference date for 2022-23’ leaving some confusion in my own mind.

 

[finbar70]

Are the bin dippers still looking at a deduction for the last FY or as this was in the EFL they’re dodging that also?

 

[TMFwanstead]

The bottom line is the premier league legislator team w(o have drafted and produced the PSR written rules have cocked up, Leicester have found the loophole and made them look like idiots. Those rules will now have to be amended to stop this happening again
Also If the PL come after teams for so called inflated transfers I think all hell will be let loose on them!

 

[Fulhamred]

Are the bin dippers still looking at a deduction for the last FY or as this was in the EFL they’re dodging that also?

My understanding is that the they can be punished for relagation season, EFL and this season so no deduction can be applied this season.

 

[Ingy]

Out of interest what did Sheff Utd do to get a 2pt deduction this year?

 

[Thewolf/jimmygordon]

Leicester are still odds on favourites for relegation

 

[RochesterRed]

Out of interest what did Sheff Utd do to get a 2pt deduction this year?

Sheffield United will start with a two-point deduction the next time they play in the Championship, following a ruling by the EFL.
The Blades broke EFL rules by defaulting on payments to other clubs during their 2022-23 promotion season.
As well as the initial deduction, the Premier League's bottom club have been handed a further two-point suspension.

Sheffield Utd docked 2 points for next EFL season

Sheffield United will be deducted two points at the beginning of the next season that they are in the English Football League's jurisdiction, the EFL said on Thursday.

www.espn.co.uk

 

[Strett]

The EPL made all accounting periods the same 30th June

This is a popular misconception. All clubs have to publish them between 31st May and 31st July; it's just they all do it on 30th June. One assumes this will now change to be prior to the last game of the season.

 

[Strett]

It isn’t - it’s just unbelievably inconsistent, as has been the case throughout the entirety of this PSR debacle

The wording of the PSR is magnificently vague. They (The EPL) Have been hoisted by their own petard.
A little bit of me is laughing at Masters and the knobheads who 'run' the EPL, but it's tempered by the fact that it's Leicester, the knobheads.

 

[chandos9]

it's the same every week, you *****!

When are Forest going to get a line of shirts made, preferably in the relevant training / coaching kit that Steven Reid was wearing, and sell those in the club shop? In fact, if they don'tl, I will ! Would sell at least 3..........

 

[chandos9]

So for the third time this century, Leicester piss all over every other club financially and cause the rules to be rewritten afterwards to close the loophole that the authorities were too weak to prevent.

True. But Leicester City have still sold most of their good players, were still relegated for being shit, and are still shit.

 

[AdebolaCornflakes]

Out of interest what did Sheff Utd do to get a 2pt deduction this year?

Pop this on the Italicised Post Spreadsheet please young @toms chap.

Cracking font chaps!

 

[Woanz]

The wording of the PSR is magnificently vague. They (The EPL) Have been hoisted by their own petard.
A little bit of me is laughing at Masters and the knobheads who 'run' the EPL, but it's tempered by the fact that it's Leicester, the knobheads.

Worryingly I agree with you here

 

[chandos9]

Worryingly I agree with you here

Yes- had Forest been relegated aafter their 4- point deduction and this had happened, there would have been loads of litigation. But as it is, Masters's position looks untenable, and the other clubs, led by Forest and Everton, should be demanding his resignation.

 

[mao tse tung]

Masters has to go, no question.

 

[weejockmcplop]

Is it just me or does anyone else see this as a win for football, in general?
I agree Masters should go. This entire mess was his responsibility to start with.
Hopefully we can draw a line under unnecessary points deductions and that's the end of all the stupidity.

 

[radfordinlondon]

Is it just me or does anyone else see this as a win for football, in general?
I agree Masters should go. This entire mess was his responsibility to start with.
Hopefully we can draw a line under unnecessary points deductions and that's the end of all the stupidity.

not sure cos ultimately it was designed to prevent clubs from building up debt and going bust. the business side of things has grown into a global industry and is stretching the pyramid to breaking point.

it's a win from the pov that it is now uncontestable that the current rules are not fit for purpose. having said that we now need to add level playing field alongside sustainability in the list of things the off field rules have to address.

still think citeh are at the epi-centre of the existential battle for football's soul but we don't look any closer to answering any of the above.

 

[weejockmcplop]

not sure cos ultimately it was designed to prevent clubs from building up debt and going bust. the business side of things has grown into a global industry and is stretching the pyramid to breaking point.

it's a win from the pov that it is now uncontestable that the current rules are not fit for purpose. having said that we now need to add level playing field alongside sustainability in the list of things the off field rules have to address.

still think citeh are at the epi-centre of the existential battle for football's soul but we don't look any closer to answering any of the above.

If there's going to be a level playing field rule we're going to need an independent regulator.

 

[Basha73]

Leicester’s issue is likely to be next season depending on how the rules change stacks up. The bin robbers could easily be first through if they aren’t careful.