Juice Diets

neilh111

neilh111

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Any one knowledgeable on nutrition, who can recommend or advise against a juice diet? i.e.. juicing fruit and veg at home, so that you can take in the nutrients, vitamins etc of more fruit and veg than you could eat in a day, while cutting out all refined stuff for a short period.

I don't mean, saying it's crap because a bloke on the One show said so, I mean someone who knows what they are talking about.

I know a few people who have lost ridiculous amounts of weight very quickly. My step dad has had his heart medication reduced after juicing. I have had juice here and there, but still ate in between, and lost about a stone, but it just seems too good to be true. Am I missing something obvious?

There are lots of reports of Cholestrol(sp?) lowering, high blood pressure reducing and the biggest benefit seems to be people with skin conditions clearing up within a week or two.

If any one doesn't know what it is, then these seem to be the main two people promoting it.

https://www.juicemaster.com/

http://www.rebootwithjoe.com/


The latest reports about high protein diets have made me think that maybe there is more to this natural detox/reboot as they seem to call it.


Any advice???



 
You put your body into full on feast and famine mode. It burns fat because of the lack of food, when you start eating again, your body stores more fat for the next famine.

One 'new' diet that does seem to have some traction is the intermittent fasting, even doctors are sitting up and taking notice. You could do 16 hours of not eating including night (so no problem) and 8 hours eating and it appears to help. Or two low calorie days per week is another form.

I've done juicing, lost weight, didn't look healthy and all the weight came back on. I was doing it for slightly different reasons (trying to cleanse the body of all the drugs I'd had to have over the years due to the brain and also seeing if foods like wheat or yeast etc were contributing)

I'd do a day of it every now and then, I'd not do that as a way to lose weight.

I'd exercise and eat correctly. That is the magic pill.

The latest reports on protein have been scoffed at by the NHS today btw, see the other thread.
 
There was a programme you can still watch on Youtube called Fat, sick and nearly dead.
I've dabbled a bit with it here and there. Got a juicer suitable for wheatgrass (not all juicers juice wheatgrass), but also got a blender (Blendtec) that does smoothies and I'd say smoothies are the way to go because a top quality blender breaks down the veg and fruit into such small particles that you benefit most from the enzymes and amino acids. Read up a lot about it a while back, and forgotten most of it, but pretty much blended green veg and leaves make 'perfect'protein. When you eat a protein, the body converts this to amino acids which is then turned back into protein. Green veg have the perfect balance of amino acids that you then turn into protein ( so there's one less step, and meat is a dirty product full of god knows what anyway). Hard to believe, but then if you think of a horse or cow in a field that chews grass all day and puts on loads of muscle, maybe not so hard to understand that it works.
I'd look at books by Ann Wigmore and Victoria Boutenko.
 
I watched Fat, Sick and Nearly Dead. Then I bought a juicer. I lasted about 7 hours on the juice diet. Still, you can definitely feel the benefit of a juice a day.
 
Diets are like get rich quick schemes, everyone is looking for a short cut because they dont want to put the effort that is required into it...

Unless you're blessed with good genes like myself nothing is going to work except good old fashion hard work...

Its not what anybody wants to hear but thats how it is...
 
A day or two every now and then to de-tox, for sure, is a decent thing but then, so is a day or eating raw veg and salad etc.
 
neilh111 - 6/3/2014 16:59

Any one knowledgeable on nutrition, who can recommend or advise against a juice diet?
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Depends on what you juice and the diet regime, if mainly veg great, but these should be used in conjunction with a healthy diet, they should not replace it! As Fear points out there is some evidence for the use of fasting days, personally I would rather not put my body into starvation mode, but having a day or occasionally two days (separated by a least one day) a week where you consume juice + protein shakes will certainly benefit you.

Add that to a HIIT and resistance training routine and it'll work wonders.




 
upthevilla - 9/3/2014 22:56

There was a programme you can still watch on Youtube called Fat, sick and nearly dead.
I've dabbled a bit with it here and there. Got a juicer suitable for wheatgrass (not all juicers juice wheatgrass), but also got a blender (Blendtec) that does smoothies and I'd say smoothies are the way to go because a top quality blender breaks down the veg and fruit into such small particles that you benefit most from the enzymes and amino acids. Read up a lot about it a while back, and forgotten most of it, but pretty much blended green veg and leaves make 'perfect'protein. When you eat a protein, the body converts this to amino acids which is then turned back into protein. Green veg have the perfect balance of amino acids that you then turn into protein ( so there's one less step, and meat is a dirty product full of god knows what anyway). Hard to believe, but then if you think of a horse or cow in a field that chews grass all day and puts on loads of muscle, maybe not so hard to understand that it works.
I'd look at books by Ann Wigmore and Victoria Boutenko.
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Good to read what you say about the protein. That's what I was worried about missing out on.

I have read an article by a doctor who was having what he called "ultra low calorie days" for two days a week and he was surprised how well it worked, so I am sort of combining juicing with that, although it's a bit awkward as I have been working away from home quite a bit.

Over the last month I have been for a carvery twice, been for pizza 3 times, and eaten in hotel restaurants while working away for about 6 nights, yet I have still lost over a stone. The main difference is not eating rubbish while driving around during the day.

I'll do this for a while and see how it goes.


 
Loads of research on the five two diet Neil. Well worth reading up on.

There was a thread on here with a link to a programme about it, a doctor looked into it and was shocked at the improvement in his cholesterol etc,

Put very basically, as you will probably have seen by now, you limit calories twice a week and not on consecutive days to around 600 calories.

The other form of intermittent fasting is eating for say just eight hours and not in the next sixteen.

Will see if I can find the thread although no idea what I titled it. Might even have merged into weight loss thread.

 
Looked a lot at this myself and heartily agree with what has been said. Fruit smoothies are pretty intense sugar hits and should be used in moderation. Green smoothies as a part of your diet are supposed to be very good. As above a good blender breaks down the cells to release all of the good shit - told you I'd researched it!

My favourite - spinach leaves, a head of romaine lettuce, inch or so of root ginger, 1 banana, 1 pear and an apple. Enough water to make it pourable. I have a medium glass of that with my porridge at breakfast. Very refreshing.
 
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