Josh Onomah

Dave the Yid

Vital Football Legend
Don't know if anyone else was watching the u20s world Cup matches, but Onomah looks a different class to the lad who's been showing up for us these last couple of seasons. He seems to be playing a very deep role and carrying the ball forward, playing clever passes and making last ditch tackles. His strength also looks to be phenomenal wt that level.

Perhaps, rather like Mousa Dembele, he's been wasted in attack for the early part of his career and his real talent lies with being a solid Centre mid? If he's plays like that for us, he'd be a very useful squad player!
 
I have said for the last 2 years play him as a CM and you will see a totally different player. He is not an AM and never will be.
 
He's really impressed me during the tournament, looks like the type that can grow both physically and mentally to be a class player.

Question is will he get enough game time to develop further or is he doing to end up as a free agent at Leyton Orient in 2 years time.
 
In the first half he was immense but not as impressive in the second in my opinion. Does he have a general tendency to fade in games? Possibly I'm being unfair? Well done to him and Kyle. World Cup Winners medals!!!!!!
 
Well there won't be many here who won't have known that I've been tipping him to make it with us for years...

He's been playing his more ACM role for England and it showed - still has a bit to do to really compete for a first team start, but he's well on his way..

He doesn't normally weaken in the second half, but it was hot and humid there and all the English lads looked like they had jelly legs in the last 20 mins.

Brilliant win.

Well done to Josh and Kyle - both did exceptionally well.

http://www.football.london/tottenham-hotspur-fc/players/joshua-onomah-spurs-manchester-united-13169907
 
whiteghost - 11/6/2017 16:26

In the first half he was immense but not as impressive in the second in my opinion. Does he have a general tendency to fade in games? Possibly I'm being unfair? Well done to him and Kyle. World Cup Winners medals!!!!!!

The Venezuelans were pressing for an equalizer and had the best player on the pitch when he came on in the second half, instant recognition of class and a mild panic set in whenever he was on the ball. We defended well to keep them out, with a bit of luck and Woodman in goal saved a pen & played well. Josh O, at last, showed me something on a football pitch, tidy ball retention, skills to create space for himself and a spanking shot from distance that rattled the bar.
 
Having been at the Scotland game this weekend, I watched the U20 game on the iPad on the train back. I can absolutely see why Poch wants Onomah under his wing, whilst also seeing why he won't pick him at the moment. Josh did some brilliant things today and was unlucky not to score. However, he over played it a few times in dangerous areas and if he were to do that in the Prem, it could get punished. It looks like the only thing wrong with him at the moment is his decision making. He has tons of ability and looks much stronger physically than he's done in the past. I also thought KWP did well at LB. Some nice touches and some foraging runs. He was also solid defensively. Really pleased for the pair of them.

I hope they fair better than Veljkovic after he won the U20 tournament. He never got near the 1st team and left the club within a year !!!
 
As with almost all upcoming players, without a loan which will get him game time in a competitive league, we will never know if he can translate his potential to the PL.

Same goes for CCV.
 
U20 World Cup winners - Congratulations to Josh Onomah and Kyle Walker-Peters.


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RichmondSpur - 11/6/2017 19:03

whiteghost - 11/6/2017 16:26

In the first half he was immense but not as impressive in the second in my opinion. Does he have a general tendency to fade in games? Possibly I'm being unfair? Well done to him and Kyle. World Cup Winners medals!!!!!!

The Venezuelans were pressing for an equalizer and had the best player on the pitch when he came on in the second half, instant recognition of class and a mild panic set in whenever he was on the ball. We defended well to keep them out, with a bit of luck and Woodman in goal saved a pen & played well. Josh O, at last, showed me something on a football pitch, tidy ball retention, skills to create space for himself and a spanking shot from distance that rattled the bar.

Knew you'd agree eventually :10: :35:

He needs playing time now and he needs lots of it, week in week out and to do that he needs to be somewhere else - he's got a lot more in his locker, but he needs to improve his decision making and that can only come from almost top flight playing time.
 
Reminds me a lot of the progression of Danny Rose. You could see there was something there but he was falling short. Had that loan at Sunderland where he looked one of their top players and came back to make the left back position his own and hasnt looked back.

If he could become our new Dembele, that would save us a one hell of a sum of money
 
Dave the Yid - 12/6/2017 09:29

Reminds me a lot of the progression of Danny Rose. You could see there was something there but he was falling short. Had that loan at Sunderland where he looked one of their top players and came back to make the left back position his own and hasnt looked back.

If he could become our new Dembele, that would save us a one hell of a sum of money

Talking of which it was good to see how remarkably at home KPW looked at LB, I'd preferred if he'd held onto the RB position - but he is another that I think would really benefit from weekly competitive football, perhaps in the championship (can't really see a PL club giving him the game time he needs).
 
Spursex - 12/6/2017 09:24

RichmondSpur - 11/6/2017 19:03

whiteghost - 11/6/2017 16:26

In the first half he was immense but not as impressive in the second in my opinion. Does he have a general tendency to fade in games? Possibly I'm being unfair? Well done to him and Kyle. World Cup Winners medals!!!!!!

The Venezuelans were pressing for an equalizer and had the best player on the pitch when he came on in the second half, instant recognition of class and a mild panic set in whenever he was on the ball. We defended well to keep them out, with a bit of luck and Woodman in goal saved a pen & played well. Josh O, at last, showed me something on a football pitch, tidy ball retention, skills to create space for himself and a spanking shot from distance that rattled the bar.

Knew you'd agree eventually :10: :35:

He needs playing time now and he needs lots of it, week in week out and to do that he needs to be somewhere else - he's got a lot more in his locker, but he needs to improve his decision making and that can only come from almost top flight playing time.

I agree when I see the quality, this is the first time in 3 years he's shown me. :35:
 
RichmondSpur - 12/6/2017 10:06

Spursex - 12/6/2017 09:24

RichmondSpur - 11/6/2017 19:03

whiteghost - 11/6/2017 16:26

In the first half he was immense but not as impressive in the second in my opinion. Does he have a general tendency to fade in games? Possibly I'm being unfair? Well done to him and Kyle. World Cup Winners medals!!!!!!

The Venezuelans were pressing for an equalizer and had the best player on the pitch when he came on in the second half, instant recognition of class and a mild panic set in whenever he was on the ball. We defended well to keep them out, with a bit of luck and Woodman in goal saved a pen & played well. Josh O, at last, showed me something on a football pitch, tidy ball retention, skills to create space for himself and a spanking shot from distance that rattled the bar.

Knew you'd agree eventually :10: :35:

He needs playing time now and he needs lots of it, week in week out and to do that he needs to be somewhere else - he's got a lot more in his locker, but he needs to improve his decision making and that can only come from almost top flight playing time.

I agree when I see the quality, this is the first time in 3 years he's shown me. :35:

Making the transition is often a bit of a lottery - you never really know if they'll kick on and re-establish themselves as a top tier player..

Anyway; it seems he has impressed more than a few of us now:



Trevor Sinclair hails Tottenham Hotspur's Josh Onomah



England's Josh Onomah and Tammy Abraham celebrate at the end of the match



The Tottenham Hotspur product stole the show for the Young Lions on Sunday.

Trevor Sinclair has told BBC Sport that he was "really impressed" with Josh Onomah in England Under-20's World Cup final win on Sunday.

The Young Lions won the competition with a 1-0 victory over Venezuela in South Korea.


Tottenham's Josh Onomah celebrates scoring their fourth goal

The 20-year-old posted a mature performance in central midfield, whereas he has often been used in a wide role for Tottenham.

And Sinclair claims that almost everything about the youngster - speed, strength, end product and passing ability - has impressed him in a big way.

"He's looked a man against boys at times. He looks so strong, so physical," he told BBC Sport.

Tottenham manager Mauricio Pochettino



"His awareness and his change of direction with the ball and his passing ability, you know sometimes you're talking about getting in uncomfortable positions and players panic, but he doesn't.

"He just holds them off, he knows how strong he is and his end product has been superb. I've been really impressed with his performance."

The Spurs academy product was also hugely unlucky not to find net after watching his 30-yard effort rattle the crossbar with what might have been goal of the tournament.

It will be interesting to see how Tottenham boss Mauricio Pochettino manages him next season, whether he keeps him in the first team or loans him out.
 
Graham Roberts gets in on the act too...all they had to do was ask me .. :10: :17:

http://www.footballinsider247.com/graham-roberts-i-can-see-tottenham-academy-prospect-tipped-success/
 
Spursex - 12/6/2017 11:54

Graham Roberts gets in on the act too...all they had to do was ask me .. :10: :17:

http://www.footballinsider247.com/graham-roberts-i-can-see-tottenham-academy-prospect-tipped-success/


And you lot thought I was unbearable. HeyZeus naffing Christmas.
 
Celtic in three-way tussle to sign Tottenham Hotspur midfielder Josh Onomah



Celtic boss Brendan Rodgers is keen to bring the Tottenham Hotspur talent to Parkhead, but faces competition from two Premier League sides, according to the Irish Sun.

Tottenham's Josh Onomah celebrates scoring their fourth goal
Tottenham midfielder Josh Onomah

Celtic are in a "three-way tussle" to sign Tottenham Hotspur midfielder Josh Onomah on loan, the Irish Sun reports.



Top flight new boys Brighton & Hove Albion and Huddersfield Town are also said to be keen on Onomah, who starred in England's Under-20 World Cup success.

It is claimed that Tottenham boss Mauricio Pochettino is keen to avoid stunting the player's progress next season, which makes a temporary exit likely.

Tottenham manager Mauricio Pochettino


While Brighton and Huddersfield could offer Onomah regular Premier League action, Celtic's likely Champions League participation may hold greater appeal for both parties.

And Brendan Rodgers' development of young players such as Raheem Sterling at Liverpool and Moussa Dembele at Celtic could also stand the Bhoys in good stead.


Celtic manager Brendan Rodgers

Parkhead boss Rodgers is keen to re-sign loan winger Patrick Roberts from Manchester City, although Onomah's recent displays in central midfield suggest Celtic's interest may not depend on the outcome of their Roberts pursuit.

Tottenham product Onomah has played 32 times for Spurs' first team, scoring once
 
Credit to the England coach for playing Josh in the Dm role it suits the players skill set. He has played all over the shop for spurs so hard too assess on that form. Agree with most posters Josh needs game time and a settled position. For u20 he looked like a viera if that can be translated to senior football then spurs could have a monster on their hands. Needs two seasons to get his physical strength and awareness up to speed.
 
A WC winners medal is quite something, and he showed why he has got into our first team squad, which he hasn't looked worthy of.

Hoefully he will be able tokick on but a lot of kids look astonishingly good in anything up to and including U21 - being physical maure covers over a lot of real ability - but can't cope in the mans game. Odd that if so many can see his position is where England play him, we don't and often stick him wide. What is that all about?