Hey bud no worries, we agree on a ton and disagree on very little. All good buddy!!
Jose is an ex-Spurs manager!
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Hey bud no worries, we agree on a ton and disagree on very little. All good buddy!!
SheringhamNo10
Vital Squad Member
Let the good times start tonight with a quality Spurs performance against the Saints.
Pompey Yid
Vital Champions League
Sheringham, how dare you call them Saints, wiv so many of us that live down Souff, they are the Scum of the Souff, lol!
SheringhamNo10
Vital Squad Member
Slip of the tongue Pompey, my unreserved apologies.
My missus was in the navy for years and she too wouldn’t be impressed with my slip up
It won’t happen again sir
Pompey Yid
Vital Champions League
Apologies accepted good Sir, now do not do it again, final warning lol!Slip of the tongue Pompey, my unreserved apologies.
My missus was in the navy for years and she too wouldn’t be impressed with my slip up
It won’t happen again sir
So Mrs S was in the Navy then, was she a Jenny Wren, all so smart and good at their jobs, which branch? so as an ex-mob Navy/Bootneck myself I salute her.
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Nice to see Roma spinning down the table with this naffer at the helm. I don't normally waste energy on wishing people bad luck but because of what he did to us I hope this stint at Roma ends this wads career as as a manager for good.
freundorfoe
Vital 1st Team Regular
It feels like with each appointment the toxic downward spiral comes earlier and earlier. Huge de ja vu with his comments after the last couple of games.
It's amazing how far he's fallen, it's a shame we were one of the rocks he hit on the way down.
It's amazing how far he's fallen, it's a shame we were one of the rocks he hit on the way down.
Lack of money , lack of success .
Money can buy you trophies ,,,, yes I know about Porto !!!!!!!!!!
I’ve heard he wants Winks now !
Money can buy you trophies ,,,, yes I know about Porto !!!!!!!!!!
I’ve heard he wants Winks now !
Spursex
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https://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/jose-mourinho-as-roma-cracks-25405529
Exclusive: Jose Mourinho told 'football has left him behind' as cracks start to show at Roma
EXCLUSIVE Former Chelsea defender Glen Johnson has suggested that Jose Mourinho has struggled to evolve with the game as the ex-Man Utd boss struggles at Roma
By
Ben HusbandDigital Sports Writer
Jose Mourinho has managed to streamline his usual three-season cycle into just three months as pressure begins to pile on the Roma boss.
We’ve seen it all before. A positive start, immediate upturn in results, before the inevitable downturn leading to ostracising of players and frosty media appearances.
Mourinho has played all of his greatest hits, but his struggles with the Giallorossi have reared their head more quickly than most would have anticipated.
After being named Paulo Fonseca’s replacement, Mourinho got off to the perfect start back in Italy, a country where his once untarnished reputation remains as such.
Seven games, seven wins and ‘the Special One’ had that old glint in his eye...but like it has done so often, the good times quickly cede to the bad.
In the 12 games since his unbeaten start ended, Roma have won just four games in all competitions, with just three of those coming in the league.
Following their 3-2 defeat to Venezia on Sunday, Serie A’s biggest spenders are already 12 points off league leaders Napoli and AC Milan, with a game against the Rossoneri to come.
With results now eluding him, Mourinho has publicly slammed his players, declared Bodo/Glimt were a better side, punished bad performances by sending players to the stands, hit out at referees and has become increasingly spiky with the media. All the hits.
After being sacked by Manchester United and Tottenham, there is a genuine feeling that another failure at Roma could finally see Mourinho’s standing damaged beyond repair.
And Glen Johnson, who played under the Portuguese when he was at the peak of his powers in his first stint at Chelsea, believes the game has moved on and his former coach hasn’t moved with it.
“Probably because the game has evolved,” Johnson told Mirror Sport. “When he first turned up he was like a rough diamond and nobody had seen a character like him.
“No one that I knew had ever played under a manager like him, in terms of the way he was explosive and the way he would hold meetings and his tactics, which were unbelievable.
“I think it was like a breath of fresh air, but younger managers have now learned from him, caught up with him, got onto a level playing field and now he’s got a new option.
“I think the game has evolved and he hasn’t moved on a little bit with it.”
Johnson, like so many players in the preceding years, had a difficult relationship with Mourinho, struggling for regular opportunities, before ultimately sealing a move to Portsmouth.
Exclusive: Jose Mourinho told 'football has left him behind' as cracks start to show at Roma
EXCLUSIVE Former Chelsea defender Glen Johnson has suggested that Jose Mourinho has struggled to evolve with the game as the ex-Man Utd boss struggles at Roma
By
Ben HusbandDigital Sports Writer
- 14:04, 8 Nov 2021
- Updated14:11, 8 Nov 2021
Jose Mourinho has managed to streamline his usual three-season cycle into just three months as pressure begins to pile on the Roma boss.
We’ve seen it all before. A positive start, immediate upturn in results, before the inevitable downturn leading to ostracising of players and frosty media appearances.
Mourinho has played all of his greatest hits, but his struggles with the Giallorossi have reared their head more quickly than most would have anticipated.
After being named Paulo Fonseca’s replacement, Mourinho got off to the perfect start back in Italy, a country where his once untarnished reputation remains as such.
Seven games, seven wins and ‘the Special One’ had that old glint in his eye...but like it has done so often, the good times quickly cede to the bad.
In the 12 games since his unbeaten start ended, Roma have won just four games in all competitions, with just three of those coming in the league.
Following their 3-2 defeat to Venezia on Sunday, Serie A’s biggest spenders are already 12 points off league leaders Napoli and AC Milan, with a game against the Rossoneri to come.
With results now eluding him, Mourinho has publicly slammed his players, declared Bodo/Glimt were a better side, punished bad performances by sending players to the stands, hit out at referees and has become increasingly spiky with the media. All the hits.
After being sacked by Manchester United and Tottenham, there is a genuine feeling that another failure at Roma could finally see Mourinho’s standing damaged beyond repair.
And Glen Johnson, who played under the Portuguese when he was at the peak of his powers in his first stint at Chelsea, believes the game has moved on and his former coach hasn’t moved with it.
“Probably because the game has evolved,” Johnson told Mirror Sport. “When he first turned up he was like a rough diamond and nobody had seen a character like him.
“No one that I knew had ever played under a manager like him, in terms of the way he was explosive and the way he would hold meetings and his tactics, which were unbelievable.
“I think it was like a breath of fresh air, but younger managers have now learned from him, caught up with him, got onto a level playing field and now he’s got a new option.
“I think the game has evolved and he hasn’t moved on a little bit with it.”
Johnson, like so many players in the preceding years, had a difficult relationship with Mourinho, struggling for regular opportunities, before ultimately sealing a move to Portsmouth.
Ex we have been saying this for seasons. He was going backwards after his last title win and maybe before that
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It's the inability to see himself as he is that is staggering. That lack of self awareness is off the charts even for a sociopath like Mourinho. This is Trump level narcissism.
It's strange how somebody who was so incredibly successful for so long can fail so badly at being able to reflect on what has gone wrong in his last 4 or 5 jobs and what he could have done differently. Instead he's just stubbornly doing the same thing over and over again which to nobody (apart from him) is surprising that it doesn't work.
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Gary Onedaysoon
*Prediction Champion 20/21 & 21/22*
It happened to Wenger too. Different personality altogether but he just couldn't see that his methods, which were innovative, almost revolutionary when he arrived, were outdated when he left.
Spursex
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Like it or not the biggest seachange in players has been brought about by the agents who now literally live 'inside' a players head and are talking to their clients every single day; so when a player gets a dressing down for whatever (even the mildest criticism) you can guarantee the next day, next week, the agent is bringing it up with the Chairman/Owners of the club; it makes for very difficult management and calling out a player in public or dressing them down in front of others simply doesn't work anymore - except to often get you the opposite of the desired effect you think you've created in the player(s).
New millennial players now have to be handled with subtlety, tact and no little focus on psychological aspects of their makeup, it's why player psychological profiling is so big now, no major club would buy a player without one now, the same as if they didn't have a medical 'passport' detailing all their injuries and treatment - often a determining factor can even be if the clubs medical staff believe a target has played for too long or too many times in the 'red zone' - and it's getting easier (as most clubs hold this data in their medical systems) to demand it and get it - it's easy to see if it's been tampered with as often now agents will demand the stats to 'protect' their players - which is why so much of it leaks out when a player is going through a poor or below average period.
Managers like Jose, scoffs at this stuff and this new dynamic (as do alot of old fans) and that's why along with the social media angle and their focus on the mobile, he just doesn't work anymore the way he once did.
Gary Onedaysoon
*Prediction Champion 20/21 & 21/22*
Why would chairmen/owners even entertain an agent's complaint? And surely they wouldn't feed that to their manager?
SmithAndJones
Vital 1st Team Regular
The irony is that Club's of decent stature continue to employ him, and more often than not he moves out of one job into another before he's had a chance to bank his compensation package from the previous Club. It would be interesting to see, if say using a current example, Norwich were to offer him their managerial position, whether his ego would allow him to step that far down the pecking order. Probably not. He will no doubt however end his managerial career in international management, where he will no doubt again be found out, or with a lucrative contract(s) in the Far East or USA.
Spursex
Alert Team
Because if they don't it can cost a club in many different ways; agents not recommending a club or actively speaking against a club can still do a lot of damage
Spursex
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If he gets sacked at Roma, I think it will be his managerial end point and he'll become the obnoxious one in the media instead.
To be fair, from what I've seen of his punditry he seemed quite good at it. He's certainly a big upgrade on nearly all of the ex footballing pundits that we have to put up with.
