Joe Rogan On Exercise

The Fear

The Fear

A Wise Man (once sat next to him)
Well found by CDX who posted it in the weight training thread.

I do like Joe Rogan, he doesn't mess about with his opinion, he gives it straight! It's back to one of my main areas of interest, programming your brain, which throws back to my post a week or so back about the Andrew Marr my brain and me programme.

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I was extremely interesting , especially the bit about how he felt just before he started a session. I feel exactly the same .
 
Must admit I rarely do, only moments of doubt for me with training are brain ache related !
 
Hit home with me because I had a bit rough patch with anxiety, I was getting concerned with my health and it created a bit of a cycle which I couldnt seem to shake. I've managed to shake a lot of it now and I feel exercise definitely played a part in bringing me back to the centre.

SirDennis what might help is finding something to do that will take away your excuse not to go. I'd get home and immediately make a pre-workout shake and once that is made it make it really hard to find an excuse not to go. So I just get home, go straight to my room get a bottle and the powder mix it up and let it sit. Once its done I cant not go its too hard to find a reasonable excuse.
 
Yup , people really don't get what exercise can bring to the table do they CDX?

It's the central thing for me, when my brain aches or ops come along, I just can't stand not training. It focuses my mind, sends the right chemicals into my system, makes me 100% focussed on the right diet to feed the body correctly and also gives me an hour or two with my music on and me just being me...
 
Yes CDX I must say it is quite rare that I won't do the session it's just the feeling of looking for a valid reason not to do a run. Once you start though you do wonder what the fuss was all about.
 
I had my first ever panic attack last July which was alcohol induced and since then I've been struggling big time. It wasnt really until November I had to take a step back and assess that I was living a classic american lifestyle coffee in the morning, no breakfast, eating late at night and drinking heavy 1 or 2 nights at a weekend and no exercise at all. My digestive system is a bit compromised so I dont really eat enough to get fat so obviously I willfully ignored that I was super unhealthy.

At the minute I am not really in the gym because I have a strained rotator cuff so doctor told me to not do weights and I also just got braces so for next couple days I cant really eat enough to replace the calories burned doing my legs. Really frustrating I was making progress but I'd be hurting my shoulder more and with the braces potentially losing weight which is the opposite of my goals.

The only thing I hate in the gym is cardio fuck me I hate it, its so boring but I have to do it at least twice as I usually deadlift on leg and back day so have to warm up. Still working to get my legs 100% after ACL recon so I think the cardio will get easier once I return to football more regularly.
 
CDX_EIRE - 25/2/2017 16:47

I had my first ever panic attack last July which was alcohol induced and since then I've been struggling big time.
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If you're still having problems with panic attacks, there's a great book I can recommend called "Dare" by Barry McDonagh. I had read loads of books for years but this one is completely different and changed everything for me.

I found exercise 10 times more effective than anxiety medication and don't take medication anymore, but I would really recommend that book too. Within the first page or 2 I knew this guy knows what he's talking about because he used to suffer from panic attacks too.

 
Thanks - I might get it for a look. My problems seem to be physical issues which I concentrate on and set things in motion. Generally I have been able to avoid all of this. Glad you're over it mate because I wouldnt wish it on anybody and it seems to me once you have one its game over and something you have to stay on top of.

Headspace has been good for me too but I havent used it in a while. Its a guided meditation app and you can get your first 10 sessions for free. There are other apps which are fully free as well but havent tried them. I think its also helped me because it tries to teach you to accept feelings and ignore them.

I dont know about anyone else but things like meditation, flotation tanks and even exercise, almost anything well being wise just seems to be viewed with this stigma by people. I usually overshare but I've found myself keeping some of this stuff to myself, I have to try keep physical problems to myself because I've friends who try to chalk things up to my mental well being. Madness.
 
Seriously mate, get the book, it will explain everything and how you can not let it affect you anymore. Most books I had read before were just about coping and accepting it, this is completely different. A lot of it deals with when you're right in the middle of an attack, to actually encourage the panic to come on more! It seems mad, but you'll understand if you read it. It's an actual practical approach, and not just a bunch of fancy sentences.

The worst thing about panic attacks is the fear of another, but once you take the fear away, they don't control you anymore.

When you say physical things, do you mean pains or weird feelings or fast hearbeat etc, that triggers an attack?



 
Damn that sounds interesting I might have to get it now, I have too many books to read. I sort of do live in a bit of fear of it happening again but I've not had any issues since stopping alcohol and caffeine.

The first attack was the perfect storm of a hangover, heat, stress of too much traveling and then the cramped space on a plane. I was so hungover I worked myself into state and convinced myself I couldn't fly but I did get on the plane. Worst thing ever.

This has manifested into a physical issue, a doctor thinks I have acid reflux and a slow stomach in terms of disgestion. So I'd get these physical issues of too much acid and heartburn, bloating etc. far in excess of what feels normal. This goes up by 1000 when I am hungover and I can't cope and that can induce a panic attack. I've not drank since Christmas I take Zantac now which really seems to help for day to day stomach control.

My holiday and the panic attack probably taxed the fuck out of my system so I just need to recover. The thing I need to stop doing is googling symptoms that has set me off a load of times and the other times I have set myself off through trying to fight off an attack as well. I'll definitely give the book a read but I think I need to completely rule out the physical element too. I am basically healthy everything is fine, no heart issues, 100% oxygen utilization in my blood, etc. but there is some underlying stomach or GI issue which causes a bit of nausea here and there, and worse when hungover.
 
Yeah, from researching and reading books over the years, one thing that always comes up is if you think there is something physical go and get checked out. Most of the time there isn't, it's all in the head, but at least it rules things out and can give you some peace of mind.

Hangovers are definitely the worst when it comes to panic attacks. If I was badly hungover I would have to avoid doing anything. Some of my worst experiences came simply standing in queues at the Post Office, bank or even just shopping. It would bring on a full blown panic attack, where I would have to leave and just walk anywhere until my heart slowed down and my body stopped shaking. Fucking terrifying stuff! Travelling by bus, train or plane would be completely out of the question so I can't even imagine how that plane journey must have been like for you!

It's good that you've cut back on the drink and caffeine, I gave up coffee years ago as much as I enjoyed it. Still drink a good bit, but I just make sure I'm not madly hungover if I have to travel or do anything important. And because of Dare I can handle those situations I struggled with before, even with a bit of a hangover.

And I would also suggest not Googling anything when it comes to symptoms etc, I've been there before and it made things worse because you get all sorts of contradictions, and can leave you even more confused and anxious.

Try not to worry too much about any of it mate, if there is stomach issues you'll get that sorted, and the mental issues will take care of themselves, you'll be fine :35:
 
Damn that book is 5 stars on Amazon - I ordered it.

I think googling my symptoms in the airport was the worst mistake of my life and the things that really set me off. As I said it was the first time I ever got those feelings and to have them on a plane when you never felt them before. I had to go to vincents when we got back because I just couldn't calm down and needed someone official to tell me I was okay.
 
Hope you find it as useful as I did. I have the Kindle version, he gives it away free for Kindle on occasions, so that's how I came across it, although I keep meaning to pick up the physical copy too, just to have it.

You'd be surprised how many people rush to the hospital thinking they are dying when they're simply having a panic attack which is completely harmless. Scary nonetheless. Amazing how powerful our minds can be.

 
Saw this on Joe Rogan a while back, just had another quick look. I don't know who the guy is, but I wouldn't agree with him about once you "pop" you're stuck like that for life. You can most definitely get back to normality.

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Try cbd oil. I was watching rogan interview Shannon Briggs and it's said it changed his life. I take it myself and had a great effect and I know Hawkins will back me on this.
 
Stephen Jay Hawkings - 27/2/2017 21:06

Saw this on Joe Rogan a while back, just had another quick look. I don't know who the guy is, but I wouldn't agree with him about once you "pop" you're stuck like that for life. You can most definitely get back to normality.

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Damn I had to come back to this thread. I can fully relate to what that guy is saying but your comment about getting back to normal helps.

I had to start going to someone but doesn't seem to be helping me just yet. I read the book and it helped to kind of contain things but I haven't managed to get beyond that.
 
Are panic attacks the main problem for you CDX? Or would you say you have generalized anxiety?

My problems started around 14 years ago when I had just turned 20, but again, I disagree with what that guy said about being "stuck like that for life", I look back now and things are a lot different.

I'll still have the occasional bout of anxiety, but as I think I mentioned before, that's mainly brought on by lifestyle ie.

It's good that you're seeing someone, I guess you'll have to be patient with it for now. Is he or she, trying Cognitive Behavioral Therapy with you?

 
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