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Interesting times ahead in Parliament: My worry is that this gives the Conservatives free reign for xyz amount of years. Though we have been here before with the 18 years of a Tory government, then 13 years of 'New' Labour..

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Corbyn Sweeps To Victory With 59.5% Of Vote

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Jeremy Corbyn has been elected the new leader of the Labour Party in one of the biggest political shocks of recent times.

The veteran left-wing MP beat Yvette Cooper, Andy Burnham and Liz Kendall in the first round, winning 59.5% of the 400,00 votes cast.

He left his closest rival, Mr Burnham, trailing on 19%, with Ms Cooper winning 17% and Ms Kendall 4.5%.

Cont: http://news.sky.com/story/1551339/corbyn-sweeps-to-victory-with-59-5-percent-of-vote
 
Jeremy Corbyn: The Anti-Establishment Leader

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For decades, the politics of the new leader of Her Majesty's Opposition have been those of the outsider and the protester.

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Jeremy Corbyn, the leader of Her Majesty's Most Loyal Opposition, is an unlikely entrant to the political establishment.

For decades, his has been the politics of the outsider - of placards and petitions; never happier than at the head of a demonstration.

He has been a constant critic of western military intervention in the Gulf or elsewhere; and while the fortunes of the "stop the war" constituencies have fluctuated, his enthusiasm for the cause has never wavered.

Cont: http://news.sky.com/story/1551269/jeremy-corbyn-the-anti-establishment-leader
 
Interesting. Fascinating in fact. Also, I think, unelectable. He's also not that great in interviews, he gets too wound up and irritated by the interviewers (like many of us would) whereas you really need to play the political game.

We've never as a country gone for a far left option, I doubt 'we' ever will.

I can see a split now, there are plenty of 'new labour' and centre left politicians who won't sit comfortably in a far left labour.

Interesting times, especially if the Tories self destruct by putting Boris the Buffoon in charge when Cameron steps down.
 
Reminds me of when Michael Foot was leader. Nobody would vote for him either. Be interesting to see how he pans out as leader. Might be refreshing to have somebody with principles.
 
Yes I thought the same, and Michael Foot came to mind, with me too.

I personally think JF the spin will be on Jeremy Corbyn and help calm him down for interviews, now. Cameron will be able to shift further over to the right now leaving a hole of centre with left and right.

Never happened before, far left in, as you say. However so much change in politics the last few years and people tired of the acting/spin and circus of politics there could be some shocks ahead
 
They've committed electoral suicide. Stupidity driven by ideology and gesture politics. They've learned nothing from the failed experiments of electing Foot and Kinnock.
 
He makes me look statesman like.

Labour have just ended themselves, although there are a couple of positives in terms of those that have resigned following his win.

No more Balls, Cooper, Chuka, and Reeves is the silver lining for me.

Bet the Union's can't believe their luck as well given what Ed rightly tried to limit them on!

That said I've never understood the fair and honest moniker with him, looking at what he says he just strikes me as somebody who hasn't realised hippy days are over and there's a real world out there that doesn't run on fantasy.

I don't know much about Michael Foot as referenced by others, but he's certainly no John Smith to my memory.
 
Love it that ed miliband has the bollocks to give a tv interview telling Corbyn what he needs to do. Yes Ed because you did so well. Reminded me of a recent scottish villa manager who was a total failure but thinks its wise keep offering opinions.

 
Chuka is being clever. Corbyn will be gone in 12 months and he can waltz in as the "moderate" candidate
 
He's a clueless Marxist lunatic who spouts vague bollocks rather than coming clean about his authoritarian belief in a clapped out discredited ideology. Then again his ideology can't be that dis-credited because David Cameron likes open borders and the nanny state aswell and he is PM.

I just fucking find it all so pathetic that it makes me angry. He went to the pub and sang "red flag" to celebrate ffs. British politics has never been in a worse state. A conman running the country and a complete prat opposing him.
 
mike_field - 12/9/2015 20:50

He makes me look statesman like.

Labour have just ended themselves, although there are a couple of positives in terms of those that have resigned following his win.

No more Balls, Cooper, Chuka, and Reeves is the silver lining for me.

Bet the Union's can't believe their luck as well given what Ed rightly tried to limit them on!

That said I've never understood the fair and honest moniker with him, looking at what he says he just strikes me as somebody who hasn't realised hippy days are over and there's a real world out there that doesn't run on fantasy.

I don't know much about Michael Foot as referenced by others, but he's certainly no John Smith to my memory.
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Michael Foot=old man, crazy grey longish hair and donkey jacket is my memory of him. Not exactly model material either, unless you like that sort of thing :17:

Always looked like a crazed scary lunatic to me, in that donkey jacket. Can still picture him in that and shudders.

This is an interesting article below

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The lessons of history for Jeremy Corbyn
Corbyn has been compared to Michael Foot and Keir Hardie, but it is George Lansbury's brief tenure as leader that offers the best guide to what might happen now

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Conventional wisdom has it that Labour’s newly-elected leader will be taking the party back to the past. The most commonly imagined point of destination is the 1980s. Corbyn, we are told, is a latter day Michael Foot, whose tenure on Labour’s leadership will give us a Labour civil war and a decade or more of Tory dominance. A more positive historical allusion, has been offered by Melissa Benn, writing in the Guardian, who has argued that Corbyn is the direct heir of the Labour Party’s founding father, Keir Hardie. While both analogies are tenable, a more accurate parallel might be traced between Corbyn and a less well-known past Labour leader, George Lansbury.

Cont: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/Jeremy_Corbyn/11860651/The-lessons-of-history-for-Jeremy-Corbyn.html
 
Apparently he has said half the shadow cabinet will be women.
Shouldn`t it be the best person for the job gets the job ?
If he wants to be so anti-sexist,how about being anti -racist aswell and have a third men,a third women and a third black or maybe show a little anti homophobia while we`re at it and have a quarter men,a quarter women,a quarter black and a quarter gay ?
And what about short -arses ? Maybe he should have a fifth of his cabinet below 3 foot tall ? What about people with 2 thumbs ?
 
Clubpaver - 13/9/2015 14:34

Apparently he has said half the shadow cabinet will be women.
Shouldn`t it be the best person for the job gets the job ?
If he wants to be so anti-sexist,how about being anti -racist aswell and have a third men,a third women and a third black or maybe show a little anti homophobia while we`re at it and have a quarter men,a quarter women,a quarter black and a quarter gay ?
And what about short -arses ? Maybe he should have a fifth of his cabinet below 3 foot tall ? What about people with 2 thumbs ?
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You have forgotten mumbling Scots there too :17: I'll get me coat
 
Depressing isn't it Bikini?

And I bet the Tories rip themselves apart over Europe and Buffon Boris ends up in charge.

Could well be a major Labour split now, no leader that far on the left has ever succeeded in the UK and I firmly believe no leader ever will.

I don't like how Corbyn talked about his “friends” in Hamas and Hezbollah.

Very friendly I'm sure, marches he's been a speaker on with banners clearly displayed with machine guns etc on them.
 
A far left labour leader will only appeal to one set of voters - those who would have already voted Labour anyway, whilst those on the edge / in the "middle ground" will be alienated further than they were by Milliband.

Also the guy is so old, next election he will be 70, if voted in he'll finish his term at 75 - he won't appeal to the young voters at all - again he will only appeal to those who have voted for Labour their entire lives.

Labour will only have a chance in the next general election if there is another unexpected economic crisis
 
Think there is a decent core of Labour voter who won't though david, it drifted many moons ago away from the left wing Michael Foot type of agenda and modernised.

Looks like that will now fall backwards.

What does confuse me is if Corbyn was so anti his own party for so long and wanted to fly the red flag, why didn't he and others form a proper left wing party? Farage the dick has done his right wing one splitting from the Tories.

All looks a mess for them now. Be fascinating to see where they go from here.
 
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