loudmouthblue
Vital Football Hero
Far from being spot on, unless you mean you agree with is theory.Spot on EV......
Far from being spot on, unless you mean you agree with is theory.Spot on EV......
O'Neill was raised Catholic and grew up in the 1970s, when there was trouble all over Northern Ireland, including Ballymena...O'Neil may have been born a Catholic but he attended a state non denominational senior school, something that would not happen if the family had republican beliefs, it is highly likely O'Neil would not have seen a great deal of sectarian bigotry, Ballymena where he grew up is a fiercely loyalist town and nothing like where McLean grew up in Londonderry, so your analogy is flawed to say the least.
McLean was brought up in the belief of a united Republic of Ireland, that is why he chose to play for them.
Far from being spot on, unless you mean you agree with is theory.
The first time he turned his back on Remembrance Day he should have been immediately substituted and bombed out of the club, Shithouse.
Deserves all he gets, if he doesn't like it don't give it.
Exactly that TB, I mean JM did himself no favours at all with his stupid & crass picture of him in a balaclava & the sectarian connotations...that pic will always come back & bite him in the arse, however nothing warrants the abuse & threats to him or his family.
High profile celebs / sports people etc can do loads of good, in JM's case the charity donations & the very generous ยฃ5k to our cause but one or two stupid tweets / posts / pics can ruin all that good work.
O'Neill was raised Catholic and grew up in the 1970s, when there was trouble all over Northern Ireland, including Ballymena...
McClean was probably too young to remember anything, as the Good Friday Agreement was signed when he was only 9... #FACTS
The first time he turned his back on Remembrance Day he should have been immediately substituted and bombed out of the club, Shithouse.
Deserves all he gets, if he doesn't like it don't give it.
Soldiers died defending one's right to do such a thing. Freedom of conscience is vital to any enlightened society.
Ballymena is a prosperous little market town, nobody from either side of the divide who lived there, and there are very few republicans, saw the troubles that festered in the deprived areas of NI.
Deprivation breeds contempt and sectarianism and if you think the Catholic population were not treated as second class citizens when JMc was growing up you are sadly mistaken, add to that no paratrooper massacre took place anywhere in County Antrim, especially not in Ballymena.
You say JMc was only 9 and to young to remember the troubles at its worst, perhaps so, but his family did and they have an imbred hatred for the British Army and still remember and pass it on in their folklore, is that something McLean should forget or not acknowledge, we in this country don't do that so why not the republicans of Londonderry.
Although i don't agree with some of the comments on here about JM it's difficult to completely say they are wrong because this whole debate is open to plenty of interpretation.
My take on it is that i agree with him 100%. The point isn't about him being paid in English pounds, he isn't anti-English. Every time the Poppies come out folk make a beeline for him and he reacts. So he should, he doesn't need to defend or explain himself to anybody but did because of all the horrendous abuse he gets every year. Like i say he isn't anti-English but he also isn't English. He feels he can't show support of something which killed his fellow countrymen and nor should he be expected to. I don't wear a poppy, am i anti-English? This is why religion and politics should be nowhere near football. It's far too diverse and everyone has different views. I don't mind minutes silences for notable deaths and disasters etc but that's where it should end. By the likes of the BBC and Sky absolutely hammering us with political movements like BLM and trying to shove womens football down our throats as if it's some undiscovered gem has led to a reverse outcome. People are getting abused for it on social media. The media are to blame for all things like this then they whinge and moan when people react in a way they didn't want. Some people should just walk around in t-shirts that say 'I am offended by everything' so we can spot them easier.
That was Victor Moses who donated 20k. McClean donated 5k. Anyway the amount is irrelevant, I agree with your post.That'll be James McClean who tipped in 25k to the save Latics fund then ?
Everyone's entitled to their own opinions you may not agree with them but the abuse is out of order
Although i don't agree with some of the comments on here about JM it's difficult to completely say they are wrong because this whole debate is open to plenty of interpretation.
My take on it is that i agree with him 100%. The point isn't about him being paid in English pounds, he isn't anti-English. Every time the Poppies come out folk make a beeline for him and he reacts. So he should, he doesn't need to defend or explain himself to anybody but did because of all the horrendous abuse he gets every year. Like i say he isn't anti-English but he also isn't English. He feels he can't show support of something which killed his fellow countrymen and nor should he be expected to. I don't wear a poppy, am i anti-English? This is why religion and politics should be nowhere near football. It's far too diverse and everyone has different views. I don't mind minutes silences for notable deaths and disasters etc but that's where it should end. By the likes of the BBC and Sky absolutely hammering us with political movements like BLM and trying to shove womens football down our throats as if it's some undiscovered gem has led to a reverse outcome. People are getting abused for it on social media. The media are to blame for all things like this then they whinge and moan when people react in a way they didn't want. Some people should just walk around in t-shirts that say 'I am offended by everything' so we can spot them easier.
I would like to hear the fuss if a player refused to "take to the knee" before a game.
Same difference.
The reason Massey didn't start tonight was that they were worried whether he would be able to get up again.I would like to hear the fuss if a player refused to "take to the knee" before a game.