Inoculations

kefkat

kefkat

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This is in response to Sas point in Trump thread about vaccinations poisoning our children

As a Mom to 4 I am very glad the inoculations are in place: inoculations are poisoning our children are they?

My 29 year old daughter would unlikely be alive and at the very least if she was she would have been blind and/or brain damaged. Thanks to inoculations she isn't either.

My daughter was inoculated for measles as well as all the other jabs, along with her 3 brothers.

My daughter still contracted measles. Without it very clearly we were told by the medical profession without the inoculation she would have been blind, probably brain damaged and there was a strong chance she would have died!!!!!!!

So I am glad I ''poisoned'' my daughter: without the inoculation and all of mine who have been saved from horrendous childhood illness because of them.

These inoculations don't stop a child getting the illness: they eradicate the worse form of it if they pick it up. My daughter was extremely ill with measles even having been jabbed

As are millions glad we have ''poisoned'' them

I remember at the time of the MMR jab there was questioning over it when my youngest was born in 1996. I spoke with our GP about it before making a decision to have him inoculated. All of mine were before the questioning came in to place.

There are still those who will debunk medicine and that it is safe: They must be people who have never seen a child with these illnesses without inoculations. The illnesses they inoculate against are horrendous and killers.

The MMR 3 in 1 was questioned as it was given at around the age of 12-15 months: this was questioned because of autism showing through at this age. Because autism can start to show at the age of MMR a link was made that was medically screened. No proof of any link was found. It was the question (quite reasonably so) that giving it at the same age was just coincidence, was proven.

Here is the link to The U.K charity of autism which discredits the link. I think enough said when they are saying there is no link

http://www.autism.org.uk/get-involved/media-centre/position-statements/mmr-vaccine.aspx
 
Fair enough but 49 vaccinations in the first 6 years seems excessive to me. I'm happy to be proved wrong because I'm expecting my 1st child in July.
 
49 inoculations Sas? for what exactly? Where did you get that figure from? Its' 17 injections Sas. Some of the vaccines are given have more than 1 type of vaccines in such as the MMR (Measles Mumps Rubella) and they are repeated at certain stages to add gently the protection. 1 of those vaccines listed has been stopped now from 2016 has stated on the link.

Here is the link below to The NHS which shows which each vaccine is for and when you read the list you will see why they do the vaccines. Better a whitterry child for a few days than what can happen.; yes there is a risk. There is a risk with everything.

There is a risk when taking your baby out for a walk in their stroller, that some bloody idiot won't be driving stupidly, mount the kerb and hit the stroller killing or maiming your child. It's weighing it up. I hope this helps you.

The thing is Sas (congratulations on your first child) you need to look at all the evidence and evidence from bona fida such as The NHS rather than reports that are designed to whip up hysteria with no care for the actual truth as the simple truth doesn't sell media and make money.

There is too much information around today and too much of it is incorrect. When my Husband was taken seriously ill last year, I went Googling searching I stuck to the NHS site and British Liver Disease site has they are bona fida and actually about the illness and the truths involved.

I understand totally the concern as it's a new baby however we all need to break down information given and weigh up properly and with trusted people who wont give us hysteria. That in this case is what our Dr's and health care are for.

Remember these vaccines cost money so they aren't doing it for the hell of it


Link to vaccines with The NHS: http://www.nhs.uk/conditions/vaccinations/pages/vaccination-schedule-age-checklist.aspx
 
Thanks for the info kefkat. I just want what's best. I've probably been misinformed by websites like this.

http://www.stopmandatoryvaccination.com/vaccine-dangers/

Regarding your question Heath I'm not sure yet. I've only just started researching this topic recently.
 
It just goes to show, you really shouldn't believe everything you read on the internet.
 
It boils down to believing scientists who understand what they are talking about or some random weirdo on YouTube.

I know which one I trust my kids' lives with.
 
I think it's irresponsible not to inoculate but to be honest although i appreciate that people need to make their own decisions about this. The only children that my opinion matters about is my own and they are inoculated as am I. Job done.
 
My sister lives in Edinburgh and didn't get her youngest vaccinated. When I got at her about it, her last resort was to claim that if everyone else's children were vaccinated, her youngest wouldn't get the disease. It's one of the stupidest things I've ever heard. It's like saying that if everyone else swerves out of the way, it's okay for me to drive on the wrong side of the road.
 
Our oldest grandson, Jack, has autism. His Mum is convinced that the MMR vaccination was responsible. I doubt it but I know where she's coming from. She has had to deal with Jack's condition every day since his diagnosis. He is twenty now and she and our son will probably be looking after Jack for most of the rest of their lives.
Every autumn for the last few years, we have been offered the flu jab. I take it and, so far, I've not anything worse than severe colds.
On the other hand, Mrs BBJ has decided not to have the injection for the past couple of years and she also has had no serious problems. However, the two previous winters, she got very severe bronchitis and blames it on the flu jab.

 
Both our children had the MMR jabs , and both are fine, Will has aspergers but that is nothing to do with the jab as my brother has aspergers and my grandfather almost certainly did as well .

I remember reading a lot about it all those years ago and we were perfectly happy for them to have the vaccinations.
 
You can't catch flu from the flu jab

The flu jab cannot cause flu because there are no active viruses in the vaccine.
If you have what you think is flu after vaccination, it may be that you have caught a flu-like virus that isn't really flu, or you may have caught flu before your flu vaccination had taken effect.
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Link : http://www.nhs.uk/Conditions/vaccinations/Pages/flu-vaccine-side-effects.aspx
 
Sasquatch - 16/2/2017 15:39

Thanks for the info kefkat. I just want what's best. I've probably been misinformed by websites like this.

http://www.stopmandatoryvaccination.com/vaccine-dangers/

Regarding your question Heath I'm not sure yet. I've only just started researching this topic recently.
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Sas this is a genuine question? Why do you go looking for sites that give you scare info! Why don't you look at the genuine sites that are medically safe, in this case. This is The NHS we are talking about. Yes it has it's faults. I just want to know why you would want to look at sites like this. I wouldn't touch them with a barge pole.

I understand to a point you look for alternative information when it comes to other stuff you talk about in the forums like from a science side etc! It doesn't mean I agree. There is a world of information out there. The problem you have is there is so much you confuse yourself as anyone else would. However looking at ''alternative stuff'' to do with Trump or 9/11 is not directly harming anyone.

Looking at scare and alternative stuff when it comes to your own child is down right dangerous. I am NOT for 1 moment saying you are deliberately putting your baby at risk, however to not have the vaccinations is putting your child at risk when you have been informed otherwise.

Incidently it is not just your decision on the injections: your wife/girlfriend is the main care giver and has a say, and IMO has the final say, so I hope she is for inoculation.

Your putting your baby at risk if you don't have the inoculations. Being mixed up and having different opinions however outlandish on the state of the world is one thing. It's NOT when it comes to your child. That is not negotiable and in my view is tantamount to child abuse

I am very clear on this and absolutely wont be moved on it as I have seen the results of a child (my child) who had the inoculation for measles, still contracted it, how seriously ill she was and what would have happened if she hadn't been injected in the first place as my post above says
 
Hi Kefkat. It was something I read ages ago but I took no interest at the time. It's obviously more relevant for me now.
She wouldn't listen to me anyway so I'm sure he she will have the full inoculations.
I think it stems from things like floride in our water that were told is good for our teeth. However floride was never meant to be swallowed. Canabis products also being banned when it has proven benefits. I guess I don't trust the pharmaceutical industy.
 
I think you have to look at it, in the sense like anything; that medical science etc. is evolving all the time. The NHS isn't going to waste money on vaccinating a child if the vaccination process wasn't needed. The NHS is in a big enough mess as it is money wise.

LOL at your partner not listening to you. I would say the majority of men would say that adding ''we might listen then do what we think is right anyway especially when it comes to our babies''
 
This is the sort of battle we will face under Trump

http://gizmodo.com/no-we-dont-need-a-bullshit-vaccine-safety-challenge-1792411031

Robert F. Kennedy Jr., the vaccine critic that Donald Trump is reportedly considering to chair a committee on vaccine safety, wants vaccine advocates to “prove” they’re safe.

The thing is, we don’t need a challenge to prove the safety of vaccines. Vaccines are safe—and we’re running out of ways to say it.

Among experts, there is no real debate over whether vaccines cause autism. The study that originally suggested the link has been thoroughly debunked and retracted, and no work since has supported it.
 
For everyone so certain of the safety of vaccines, and the MMR vaccine in particular, I would urge you to spend 90 minutes watching 'Vaxxed.'

It isn't really the point whether Andrew Wakefield was discredited (he wasn't, he & the report's co-authors have actually been exonerated of any wrongdoing, despite media claims to this day), it's the control the pharmaceutical companies have over pretty much everything, and the extremely dubious research presented by the US Centre for Disease Control.

People are far too easily led in medical matters by conventional wisdom and the so-called experts, most of whom are funded in one or another way by pharmaceutical companies.

Those who make their vaccination decisions when not in possession of the facts, and are basing things merely on what they've been spoon-fed by governments and the like, are taking just as big a risk as those not prepared to vaccinate under any circumstances.

My eldest son had the MMR at the appropriate (some might say 'dangerous' age of 15 months) and he has Asperger's. Coincidence? Maybe, but equally, maybe we took the wrong decision based on erroneous safety data. Had we waited until he was 3, he may not have developed his ASD.

Our youngest son has not been vaccinated. He is now almost 8 and his worst spell of illness was appendicitis, which resulted a very traumatic surgery and period of recuperation. We do not regret for one second not having had him vaccinated, particularly with the MMR, because we are far from convinced of the safety of the combined vaccination.

When I was a kid, I had single jabs (far more expensive to the NHS, apparently) and I still got measles anyway. Badly. Maybe if I'd had the combined jab (it wasn't available at the time, and when it was, it caused meningitis and had to be rapidly withdrawn) I wouldn't have got measles but I would have developed autism. Who knows?

But based on my experience, and all I have learnt since, I wouldn't give ANY child the combined MMR. Not until it is proven beyond doubt to be safe and unrelated to developmental disorders. Which to my mind, it hasn't as yet.
 
Well let's hope it's improved since the thalidomide drug was given out.

Ps I've found out today it's a boy. We're naming him hemorroides.
 
Sasquatch - 20/2/2017 17:21

Well let's hope it's improved since the thalidomide drug was given out.

Ps I've found out today it's a boy. We're naming him hemorroides.
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You will get piles of people calling their children that now.
 
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