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The FBI has been paying people to go into Muslim communities and convince and then enable Muslims to commit terrorist acts so that they can be arrested, tortured and conviced of terrorism.

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/jul/21/government-agents-directly-involved-us-terror-plots-report
 
BB dude this is the very reason i won't trust the media, it's as if the world has gone crazy, specially the leaders of our part of the world, really wouldn't surprise me if this was true but how mental is this story and some of the things that's going on, mad world they say.
 
Nooo! :10:

Not the good ol US of A?

It's almost like they are trying to set up the Muslims as the baddies and intend on blaming terrorist events on them.

Oh wait, hang on..................


 
Juan Mourep - 21/7/2014 19:24


Nooo! :10:

Not the good ol US of A?

It's almost like they are trying to set up the Muslims as the baddies and intend on blaming terrorist events on them.

Oh wait, hang on..................
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Blaming the commy pinko bastards is sooooooo 20th centuary though.



 
So you listen to journos who are anti america but you dismiss everything that is anti terrorists as propoganda and fake and just end up blaming america. two way street.
 
Quite right Col. It's good for one, but not for the other.

I know who I'd prefer to go with. Let's face it, you don't need to 'set up' extremists.....

 
No way cola dude, i don't believe any mainstream BS always keep an open mind as to what could be really playing out, RT news will big up Russia as it;s nemesis CNN and FOX news will do the same for USA, etc all i have said quite a few times now is we get spoon fed a lot of bollox that people at the top want us to see and believe to get new tougher laws passed around the world taking away our privacy etc this is how they achieve it by sacring the shit out of everybody, there is extreemists no doubt and Russia am behind a lot of things no doubt BUT so too is USA and our country and Europe, i just prefer to take accounts from the people at the scenes and events and when many say the same thing it is more plausable than the mainstream news i find, not everything ismade up but a lot is i find.
 
So why are you lending credence to a report in the Guardian then Clive ?
It's a mainstream media outlet of sorts - just pandering to a communist/vegan type crackpot agenda.

Much like taking accounts of 'people at the scene' - how are you not as sceptical of those reports as any other media outlet ?
Next you'll be believing in real time spanish twitter accounts of western imperialists jets shooting down passenger planes or billionaires interested in relegation haunted football clubs

Most confusing.

Some very prejuiced views amongst the free thinkers on here.


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BringbakMON - 21/7/2014 23:25

just pandering to a communist/vegan type crackpot agenda.
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"communist/vegan type" Sweeping generalisation much? What exactly do you mean by that?


Some very prejuiced views amongst the free thinkers on here.
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I have not taken any of my views and passed them through a juicer before posting, I can assure you of that.

Is it prejudice or is it opinions based on previous actions? The USA have a VERY long and illustrious history in forcing regime changes, subversion, terrorism, murder, blackmail and coercion, with countless operations available in the public domain, if you've got a spare week or two you might scratch the surface.


 
colavfc - 21/7/2014 22:08

So you listen to journos who are anti america but you dismiss everything that is anti terrorists as propoganda and fake and just end up blaming america. two way street.
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There are real terrorists out there, but there are also "manufactured" terrorists, like those who supposedly managed to completely melt away the steel frames of the twin towers by crashing an aeroplane into the structure, ignoring the fact that these towers were built to withstand such an impact, the jet fuel managed to burn at a heat beyond it's capability and melted the steels, the last I read there has NEVER been a report of a steel frame melting due to fire.

Or those that were blamed for 7/7, when the fact is that two of those blamed were definitely 100% on a train that was delayed to such an extent that they couldn't possibly have made the train that blew up, as for the third "terrorist" he didn't even make it and was shot elsewhere, the train bombs were evidently home made "bath tub" bombs, they were allegedly in rucksacks in the carriage, so the big questions really are who did really plant the bombs? Why was the floor blown up into the carriage like the explosive was underneath the carriage, instead of acting like it was inside? And why were traces of military grade C4 found and why was there no actual inquest for these questions to be asked, these Muslims were blamed for the crime and named as criminals, they were not tried and found guilty, there was no detailed inquiry, I shit you not.

A guy called Peter Power was running anti terrorist drills and dealing with the after effects of terrorist actions, it just so happens that he happened to be doing drills at the exact same places that were hit, out of all the stations in London he just happened to be at only those involved, on that exact day of the year and at exactly the right time of day, now what are the odds of that being just a coincidence?

Not even arrested and questioned, if any of us went to court and tried to state that it was just pure coincidence, just how far do you think we would get?

Or in other words, it stinks!


 
Pride of Lions - 21/7/2014 22:30

Quite right Col. It's good for one, but not for the other.

I know who I'd prefer to go with. Let's face it, you don't need to 'set up' extremists.....
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Your post proves that, they are already guilty in your eyes, but who are the extremists? Is that every Muslim? All the ones I know are great :81:

And as pointed out in my previous posts, they are set up and set up regularly, they are the baddies, the media are building up and fuelling hatred against Muslims, they are doing this so they can maintain public support for their illegal actions in the "war on terror" looks like the general population are lapping it up :21:



 
Here's the link to the report released by Human Rights Watch: http://m.hrw.org/node/127456

I suppose Human Rights Watch are massive supporters of terrorists and their terrorism?
 
There is a case of a man who was kept in solitary confinement for 5 years! I'm sure he's glad the Americans are out there fighting for freedom.
 
Juan Mourep - 22/7/2014 03:12

There are real terrorists out there, but there are also "manufactured" terrorists, like those who supposedly managed to completely melt away the steel frames of the twin towers by crashing an aeroplane into the structure, ignoring the fact that these towers were built to withstand such an impact, the jet fuel managed to burn at a heat beyond it's capability and melted the steels, the last I read there has NEVER been a report of a steel frame melting due to fire.

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Some odd claims there which aren't supported by any credible sources.
The trouble is ill informed comment gets repeated enough times then it becomes FACT for the tinfoil hat wearing brigade.

It's a pointless debate though as your views are so prejudiced that any actual facts have little to no impact.

Best keep your head down in case a US hit squad come and get you.

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ClivetheVillan - 21/7/2014 22:36

No way cola dude,
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just look how Americanised and brainwashed Clive has become. He even refers to people as American brands now.

Shocking.

As for the rest, from both sides, the truth will never out. We are just ants in this worldwide game.

Do I trust those in power? No, nor should I, nor should anyone, but it won't change the fact they are in power and whether we believe it or not, they do what they want!
 
Juan. where are you getting this ridiculous information from? youtube? youtube has a conspiracy for everything. you think usa were behind twin towers? balloney. what you think the most technically advanced country in the world would do that and leave clues so that juan mourep could figure them out? give me a break!

and as for the 'every muslim i know is great'... what eveyone of them? you dont know one bad apple? sounds frightingly odd. have you been brainwashed?

your insistance to try to prove everyone wrong in your patronising way is one thing. But to spout off you know it all abour terrorists and conspiracy theories when all your doing is relaying bullcrap info you can find anywhere is another level.

do you know michael jackson is alive and he faked his death?

do you know bruce lee also faked his death and is an under cover agent?

There are some great vids on youtube about them. really convincing too. go treat yourself.
 
Trojan horse? muslim plot to radicalise birminghams schools. to radicalise primary school children? whos behind that?

America? cia?

wake up will you! or you got a conspiracy for that too?
 
It hasbeen revealed today that teachers who were part of trojan horse investigations sent messages to each other saying lee rigbys murder and the boston bombings were both hoaxes!

remind you of anyone?
 
Most of those who beleive we live under sharia law to be honest.

The GOV report also said extremist views...not that schools had been taken over but hey ho...facts and all that, plus the report that found no evidence, including the ofstead 12 months earlier before this 'letter' suddenly turned up.
 
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