Hybrid Cars

DeanoVilla

DeanoVilla

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Anyone got one?

Any good?

Is it the future?

Hopefully (job allowing) getting a new family car next month and had pretty much decided on the Nissan Xtrail, but have now had a bit of a curve ball thrown into the mix.... the Mitsubishi Outlander PHEV Hybrid.

It's 4.5K more expensive than the Nissan (OTR price), but here's the thing.

The government will give me £2,500 as an incentive for buying a hybrid. Mitsubishi will give me £2,750 deposit contribution and also £4,000 scrappage for my crappy Megane, so basically a £9,250 discount.

Nissan will only give me £2,000 for my Megane and £2,500 deposit contribution, which actually means the Mitsubishi works out £250 cheaper!

Also, the MPG stats on the hybrid look incredible. it will do 35 miles purely on the electric motor. Mon-Fri Nat uses the car to drop Buddy to nursery, girls to school and get herself to work (approx 25 miles), so during the week we wouldn't use any petrol at all.

Then for longer journeys where the electric and petrol motors work together Mitsubishi claim an MPG of 145! Compared to the 55 on the Nissan.

Also I believe road tax is cheaper too.

BUT................... are hybrids actually any good to drive, or are they rubbish?



Another option is to take the quote in to Nissan and say look how much discount Mitsubishi are giving me, can you match that or throw in some options for free.

not sure what to do.
 
You definitely won't get anything close to 145mpg in the PHEV.

My brother in law drives a Honda Jazz hybrid and gets about twice the MPG that I get in my gas guzzlers.

I can't see any downside of getting the PHEV.
 
Yeah to be fair i didn't expect to get the claimed MPG. But if I got say.... 85MPG it's still more than 50% better than the Nissan (probably wouldn't get the claimed MPG on that either to be fair).
 
The bloke across the road has a Mitsubishi Hybrid and he loves it

If your getting those stats for the Mitsubishi then its an absolute no brainer as long as you have plenty of charge points near you
 
Hmmm.. this doesn't sound good -

News of electric motorway charging stations becoming a paid-for service means that an 80% charge of the car’s 33-mile range battery costs around £6, and the government's plug-in grant has been halved. Meanwhile tax changes due in April mean that instead of being free from VED, it will cost £10 for the first year then £130 every year after that
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That's now the 2nd review I've read that says it's not great as a private buy but brilliant as a company car due to the tax.

Also ready a review that says despite it being a large SUV it's quite cramped in the back. Thats the main reason we're going bigger coz the girls always moan about being cramped in the Qashqai so if it doesn't address that it's pointless.

Will still go and take a look but now thinking the Xtrail (and try and barter for 7 seats and paint choice colour for free) may be the better bet again.

 
I think hybrid is the way to go, Drank. Whether that's Mitsubishi or not, I'm not sure. There are some good offerings from Hyundai and Kia, and you can't ignore Toyota in this. VW are starting to launch a few as well.

I'm on the lookout for a hybrid SUV as well. So far all I can work out us that if I wait a bit, the choice will grow quite significantly. No good to you now, I know, but it might just be 12 months too soon to invest in this technology.
 
Here a useful summary of what's out there.

I've driven the Kia Niro, and it's nice, very nice. Whether it's big enough for you, I don't know.
 
In terms of the £2,500 government grant the Mitsubishi is the only large SUV on the list.

I know that shouldn't be the only factor but coupled with the generous £4,000 scrappage (most only offer 2k) then it's very tempting.
 
The Fear - 12/10/2017 14:14

I've just got a twin turbo 6 cyclinder 335 diesel.

Hope that helps.

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Planet killer!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Seriously, though, why a diesel still, given all the problems around them? I know it's a great engine, as I had a 5 series with it for a while. I just reckon they'll increase the taxes and fuel prices on diesels.

What am I talking about? Money is no object to you!!!!!

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DeanoVilla - 12/10/2017 14:15

In terms of the £2,500 government grant the Mitsubishi is the only large SUV on the list.

I know that shouldn't be the only factor but coupled with the generous £4,000 scrappage (most only offer 2k) then it's very tempting.
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My friend got the £2,500 on a Hyundai, but it's not and SUV. Is it to do with actually being able to plug it in and charge it? Most hybrids only charge from the engine and onboard energy recovery systems.
 
Think this explains the criteria for a grant.

As far as I can see the Mitsubishi is the only large SUV -

https://www.gov.uk/plug-in-car-van-grants


As for Diesels, yes thats nother very good point, if we went for the XTrail we'd have to go for the diesel model as it's the cheapest and also has the best MPG, but long term I am hearing lots of scare stories about diesels being taxed out of existance and losing a shed load on depreciation due to that.

So I think I've just made up my mind. Assuming the rear space isn't anyworse than the Qashqai,

It's Nat I have to convince though, she desperately wants 7 seats.
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Lol. You know Hat will get her own way!!!! Just give in now.

There can't be many seven seaters, can there? Certainly not many hybrid ones.

I'm waiting to see what Skoda/Seat do on the back of the VW/Audi hybrids coming out. They usually provide the same car at a far cheaper price.
 
The Xtrail and normal Outlander both have a 7 seat option.

But no, you're right due to the hybrid mechanics it's not possible to have 7 seats. Frustrating as if it had it would tick all boxes.
 
The Fear - 12/10/2017 15:14

I've just got a twin turbo 6 cyclinder 335 diesel.

Hope that helps.

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You got rid of the M3 then?

 
Just a warning to you all. A few people have died from electric shock whilest helping in an car accident with electric cars. Once the wires are exposed they can be lethal.
 
I had a 4 series m sport VotN. Gone back to 3 series M sport (not the M3, can't afford that) but done the 335 this time, auto for the first time

(sorry Deano, your thread!!)



Have you looked at the milk floats mate? They are sold cheap, you could maybe customise one?
 
Nobody has ever died from a shock from an electric car. The biggest safety issue is a lithium battery exploding, but then again, we sit on a big tank of flammable liquid anyway.
 
Sasquatch - 12/10/2017 16:58

Just a warning to you all. A few people have died from electric shock whilest helping in an car accident with electric cars. Once the wires are exposed they can be lethal.
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That's just not true.

 
Well I do apologise. I was on a 1st aid course yesterday and we were told about the batteries and to watch out for the orange wires if your a 1st responder.
I'm not trying to win an argument, just keep you safe.
 
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