How has this happened?

Juan Mourep

Juan Mourep

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https://welfaretales.wordpress.com/2015/09/02/nurses-turning-to-food-banks-and-seeking-debt-advice-due-to-nhs-cuts/

Nurses turning to food banks and seeking debt advice due to NHS cuts

Undervalued nurses are forced to seek advice about debts, bankruptcy and homelessness, according to new figures from the Royal College of Nursing (RCN).

More than 1,200 nurses called the union’s member support helpline between January and July, needing advice on welfare, ill-health, disability and other issues.

This included 231 asking for help with debts and bankruptcy.


This is how the tory gov treats those who dedicate themselves to helping others

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And they want to make it worse. Hunt has plans in place to take away anti-social hours rates of pay and other cuts.

He's an evil little git.
 
Disgrace!

Of course Farage would now start blaming the immigrants putting huge strain on the NHS. Maybe, maybe not but the population in this country(especially in towns/cities) is reaching breaking point. The sheer traffic on the roads just seems a bloody nightmare and I cant see anything getting any better.

Is it too many people or poor investment by governments, or a bit of both?

Everything just seems so stretched, if its not the NHS its the Police or schooling. And people want to take in millions of refugees? It makes no sense at all.

2016 seen the most deaths of refugees, many coming from Africa. And yet in another article we read Africa has an HIV crisis. Who or how are we going to treat them all when the Nurses are already going to food banks and working up to 20 hours per day(some days)?
 
The crooks in charge of this country and the tax dodgers at the top could sort out these problems.

But no, lets blame the foreigners instead.

Oh for the love of :26:

A lot of the nurses are the foreigners btw.
 
This is NOT an immigrant issue, a police or anything else issue, you can take your anti immigration diatribe to a different thread

This is J Hunt and Co sticking the boot into those who care for those that need medical help, it is their wages, it is their work hours that are the problem

And if not for "immigrants" our NHS would be a shadow of itself


 
Have immigrants contributed to the NHS? Absolutely!
Have immigrants contributed to draining the services of the NHS? Maybe(some sources suggest so, even in tonight's BBC news the NHS is asked to start billing for services it has provided to citizens that live abroad)! It shouldn't be a free for all! And I believe it has been abused!

You are right though! This is NOT about immigration...The NHS is dying because it needs funds, great work on the leave campaign by the way £250m to go to the NHS(yep that would be nice but a complete fabricated lie by the Tories).
 
The NHS is fundamentally broken. Sadly it's a matter of time before we all end up paying for basic health care (either through insurance or treatment charges). Unless there are wholesale changes to the way the service is structured and managed, it will die on it's arse.

Only four years after it was formed the service that was to be 'free for all' had to introduce charges for prescriptions and dental care. Unfortunately the concept is flawed and unsustainable without huge increases in taxation...and no government wants to do that.

Sad
 
Green Tea - 28/10/2016 18:44

Is it too many people or poor investment by governments, or a bit of both?
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Both.

The population increases, both via normal population growth and the apparent uncontrolled immigration that has been allowed. The government has not catered for this and the Nhs funding has not kept pace. Politicians can bang on all they like about increasing funding but its pure propaganda. They have but its not keeping pace with the requirement.

Mrs Melon is 18 yrs into her nursing career. For the past 10 years she has worked in a community based post. In that 10 years the area that her team covers has been expanded. The number of staff has stayed the same. The same staff covering a bigger geographic area. The housing and population within the trust area has grown. There is new housing being built everywhere. A relatively small town near us has had 3,000 new homes built in the past 5 years alone. Has Mrs Melon's team been increased to cover this growth?. No. The same number of staff as when she joined the team 10 years ago. More patients being referred then ever but still the same waiting time targets as years ago. Therefore what happens?. Targets are not met and people wonder what is happening?..

As for the recent change in pay and conditions and pensions for NHS by Cameron and his cronies. Its is an absolute disgrace how NHS staff (and other public services to that matter) have been treated due to circumstances with the economy caused by corrupt bankers and business. I could go on all day to be honest. In a nutshell, pay more to the pension, work longer and have your retirement age, as agreed when you signed your contract 18 years ago, increased but don't get anything more at the end?. Awful.

Mrs Melon loves her job, she has her eyes wide open after all these years. She knows its a vocation and no one is forcing her to do the job (as is often levelled at public service workers).
She will say time and again that without the goodwill of NHS staff it would collapse. And by goodwill she means, going in on days off, staying late at a minutes notice, taking on caseloads far in excess of what is set down by policy when she could just turn around and say 'no I'm not doing it'. As i said i could go on....

 
It's funny that America is trying to get away from its crazy health care system and Britain is trying to get towards it.

Privatising the NHS has been a long term goal of the Tories. If you vote for them, that's what you'll get.
 
Melon Donkey - 28/10/2016 22:34

Mrs Melon loves her job, she has her eyes wide open after all these years. She knows its a vocation
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Please remind Mrs Melon how much she's appreciated by us


 
Gazgecko - 28/10/2016 21:39

The NHS is fundamentally broken. Sadly it's a matter of time before we all end up paying for basic health care (either through insurance or treatment charges). Unless there are wholesale changes to the way the service is structured and managed, it will die on it's arse.

Only four years after it was formed the service that was to be 'free for all' had to introduce charges for prescriptions and dental care. Unfortunately the concept is flawed and unsustainable without huge increases in taxation...and no government wants to do that.
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It does need an overhaul, but the "unsustainable without huge increases in taxation" I believe is very wide of the mark, just an extra £1 a month would raise approx £38 million a month, would anyone begrudge our NHS that?


 
No Juan, but would anyone trust this (or the other lot) Government to put the money where it is meant to go?
 
The Fear - 29/10/2016 16:11

No Juan, but would anyone trust this (or the other lot) Government to put the money where it is meant to go?
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If they told me water was wet I would have to check


 
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