I've seen a few posts over the last couple of weeks on the issue of our homegrown player quota so I'm putting together this thread summarising it. I'll update this over the course of the window as Paratici works his magic.
A reminder of the rules. Keeping in line with the messy structure of football, there are 2 different sets of rules that we have to consider; those of the FA, and those of UEFA for the CL games.
FA Rules
You can name 25 senior players in the squad
A maximum of 17 of these can be "foreign" players.
A homegrown player is somebody who has trained at an English or Welsh club for 3 seasons before the age of 21 (so essentially nationality is irrelevant).
You can name as many under 21s as you want
UEFA Rules
You can name 25 senior players in the squad
A maximum of 17 of these can be "foreign" players
Club Trained; We must have a minimum of 4 players who played for 3 years at Spurs between 15 and 21 (if we want to name a full squad of 25).
Association Trained; Players who have spent 3 years between 15 and 21 at English clubs. Since we will likely name the max number of foreign players then a max of 4 in this bracket.
List B; We can name as many under 21s as we wish. But there's a catch, they must have been at spurs for 2 years before they can be included in this list.
In the Spurs squad we have a couple of odd cases;
Dier is counted as foreign in both sets of rules as he came through the Portuguese academy and moved here when he was too old.
Rodon and Davies count as homegrown for FA games, but they are counted as foreign for UEFA games as they consider Welsh academies different to English ones.
Doherty is counted as foreign in both sets of rules as he went on loan to Scotland during part of his 3 year qualifying period in England.
Sarr will count as under 21 for FA rules but as Foreign for UEFA
So I'll stop withering on get to the point...
FA Rules Squad;
Homegrown; 9 - (Austin, Tanganga, Rodon, Davies, Sessegnon, Skipp, Winks, Kane, Clarke)
Foreign; 17 [equal to the limit] - (Lloris, Romero, Sanchez, Dier, Reguilion, Royal, Doherty, Perisic, Hojbjerg, Bentacur, NDombele, Lo Celso, Son, Bergwijn, Kulu, Moura, Gil)
Total; 26 [1 over the limit]
Under 21s; 1 - Sarr
UEFA Rules Squad;
Club trained; 5 - (Austin, Tanganga, Skipp, Winks, Kane)
Association trained; 2 (Sessegnon, Clarke)
Foreign; 20 [3 over the limit] - (Lloris, Romero, Sanchez, Dier, Rodon, Reguilion, Davies, Royal, Doherty, Perisic, Hojbjerg, Bentacur, NDombele, Lo Celso, Sarr, Son, Bergwijn, Kulu, Moura, Gil)
Total; 27 [2 over the limit]
As our squad currently stands, 1 senior player can't play in the PL and 3 foreign players can't play in Europe.
You would imagine that none of Clarke, Sarr, Lo Celso, and NDombele will be here next season. Doing this;
a) for FA, allows us to include Foster and then leaves 1 space for another player (of any nationality)
b) for UEFA, allows us to include Foster and have 1 space for an English trained player.
So we squad space for the likes of Sterling or Spence. But if we want to sign the likes of Bastoni, Eriksen, McKennie etc then we will need to shift more players.
The likes of Sanchez, Rodon, Reguilion, Royal, Doherty, Bergwijn, Moura, Gill will be the ones that Paratici will also need to find clubs for.
A reminder of the rules. Keeping in line with the messy structure of football, there are 2 different sets of rules that we have to consider; those of the FA, and those of UEFA for the CL games.
FA Rules
You can name 25 senior players in the squad
A maximum of 17 of these can be "foreign" players.
A homegrown player is somebody who has trained at an English or Welsh club for 3 seasons before the age of 21 (so essentially nationality is irrelevant).
You can name as many under 21s as you want
UEFA Rules
You can name 25 senior players in the squad
A maximum of 17 of these can be "foreign" players
Club Trained; We must have a minimum of 4 players who played for 3 years at Spurs between 15 and 21 (if we want to name a full squad of 25).
Association Trained; Players who have spent 3 years between 15 and 21 at English clubs. Since we will likely name the max number of foreign players then a max of 4 in this bracket.
List B; We can name as many under 21s as we wish. But there's a catch, they must have been at spurs for 2 years before they can be included in this list.
In the Spurs squad we have a couple of odd cases;
Dier is counted as foreign in both sets of rules as he came through the Portuguese academy and moved here when he was too old.
Rodon and Davies count as homegrown for FA games, but they are counted as foreign for UEFA games as they consider Welsh academies different to English ones.
Doherty is counted as foreign in both sets of rules as he went on loan to Scotland during part of his 3 year qualifying period in England.
Sarr will count as under 21 for FA rules but as Foreign for UEFA
So I'll stop withering on get to the point...
FA Rules Squad;
Homegrown; 9 - (Austin, Tanganga, Rodon, Davies, Sessegnon, Skipp, Winks, Kane, Clarke)
Foreign; 17 [equal to the limit] - (Lloris, Romero, Sanchez, Dier, Reguilion, Royal, Doherty, Perisic, Hojbjerg, Bentacur, NDombele, Lo Celso, Son, Bergwijn, Kulu, Moura, Gil)
Total; 26 [1 over the limit]
Under 21s; 1 - Sarr
UEFA Rules Squad;
Club trained; 5 - (Austin, Tanganga, Skipp, Winks, Kane)
Association trained; 2 (Sessegnon, Clarke)
Foreign; 20 [3 over the limit] - (Lloris, Romero, Sanchez, Dier, Rodon, Reguilion, Davies, Royal, Doherty, Perisic, Hojbjerg, Bentacur, NDombele, Lo Celso, Sarr, Son, Bergwijn, Kulu, Moura, Gil)
Total; 27 [2 over the limit]
As our squad currently stands, 1 senior player can't play in the PL and 3 foreign players can't play in Europe.
You would imagine that none of Clarke, Sarr, Lo Celso, and NDombele will be here next season. Doing this;
a) for FA, allows us to include Foster and then leaves 1 space for another player (of any nationality)
b) for UEFA, allows us to include Foster and have 1 space for an English trained player.
So we squad space for the likes of Sterling or Spence. But if we want to sign the likes of Bastoni, Eriksen, McKennie etc then we will need to shift more players.
The likes of Sanchez, Rodon, Reguilion, Royal, Doherty, Bergwijn, Moura, Gill will be the ones that Paratici will also need to find clubs for.
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