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Third Avenue said:
Would that mean reforming the NHS by increased privatisation - because privatisation of our essential public services has been a great success - leading to a two-tier health service, those that can afford health insurance and those who can’t. A two-tier policy Farage would be in favour of then.
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And that brexit bad boy Aaron Banks (Eldon Insurance / GoSkippy) would love the Farage private heath insurance scheme. Banks, another friend of Russia attempting to ruin our great nation. Interesting to read about the poor standard of corporate governance in his companies.
 
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Third Avenue said:
Would that mean reforming the NHS by increased privatisation - because privatisation of our essential public services has been a great success - leading to a two-tier health service, those that can afford health insurance and those who can’t. A two-tier policy Farage would be in favour of then.
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You sound afraid of change. The NHS has become this political football, even the mere suggestion of reforming it leads to hysteria and scaremongering. Sadly it is not these politicians who use it to cling to power that suffer. It’s the majority of the populace.
 
daleks.at.the.monaco said:
Poor interpretation yet again
Keep up
You still look desperate
Desperate in your attempts to do down our great and exceptional nation
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I know you’ve said you’re desperate and I accept the increasing humiliation must be getting too much to bear. Who’d have thunk trailing around such sites could have been so triggering. As Jim would say, a case of look at what you could have won.

Sadly I’m envisaging a scenario in about a weeks time with a troubling news report emerging of a suicide at Bennys tomb. A man found dead in a piss stained linen suit from C&A, resembling the bloke from man from Del Monte adverts. Clutching a copy of Mein Kampf in one hand and a photograph of Nigel Farage and Aaron Banks with their eyes cut out in the other.
 
Made in Wigan said:
You sound afraid of change. The NHS has become this political football, even the mere suggestion of reforming it leads to hysteria and scaremongering. Sadly it is not these politicians who use it to cling to power that suffer. It’s the majority of the populace.
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Who is scaremongering and hysterical about reforming the NHS?
Labour has addressed reforming the NHS in its 10-Year Health Plan and NHS Modernisation Bill. What Labour’s plan doesn’t do is include plans to systematically privatise the NHS and introduce an insurance based model which the overwhelming majority of people in this country do not want.
I’m not afraid of change at all. What I am afraid of is change that will place an increased burden on working class people whilst lining the pockets of the already super rich for whom reliance on the NHS is less of an issue.
 
Third Avenue said:
Who is scaremongering and hysterical about reforming the NHS?
Labour has addressed reforming the NHS in its 10-Year Health Plan and NHS Modernisation Bill. What Labour’s plan doesn’t do is include plans to systematically privatise the NHS and introduce an insurance based model which the overwhelming majority of people in this country do not want.
I’m not afraid of change at all. What I am afraid of is change that will place an increased burden on working class people whilst lining the pockets of the already super rich for whom reliance on the NHS is less of an issue.
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Like 99% of insurance policies, be that car, house, life or god forbid health insurance- if & when you make a claim, it'll go to a 3rd party 'claims handling company' who will try their utmost to NOT pay out your claim, reduce it or max out your excess
 
jocklatic said:
Like 99% of insurance policies, be that car, house, life or god forbid health insurance- if & when you make a claim, it'll go to a 3rd party 'claims handling company' who will try their utmost to NOT pay out your claim, reduce it or max out your excess
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Correct.
From personal experience trying to get treatment approved by a private medical insurance company is a frustrating and stressful experience.
Privatised companies exist to make profit for its shareholders. That is their number one priority. Your health and wellbeing are secondary.
 
Third Avenue said:
Correct.
From personal experience trying to get treatment approved by a private medical insurance company is a frustrating and stressful experience.
Privatised companies exist to make profit for its shareholders. That is their number one priority. Your health and wellbeing are secondary.
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Similarly, a claims handling company are there to save the insurance company money by any means possible....having / currently suffering this on trying to reclaim my money back from my cancelled Kilimanjaro Challenge Trip.
 
Made in Wigan said:
You sound afraid of change. The NHS has become this political football, even the mere suggestion of reforming it leads to hysteria and scaremongering. Sadly it is not these politicians who use it to cling to power that suffer. It’s the majority of the populace.
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A vote for change?
Like Brexit was a vote for change.

All going well so far for those change voters
 
Made in Wigan said:
I know you’ve said you’re desperate and I accept the increasing humiliation must be getting too much to bear. Who’d have thunk trailing around such sites could have been so triggering. As Jim would say, a case of look at what you could have won.

Sadly I’m envisaging a scenario in about a weeks time with a troubling news report emerging of a suicide at Bennys tomb. A man found dead in a piss stained linen suit from C&A, resembling the bloke from man from Del Monte adverts. Clutching a copy of Mein Kampf in one hand and a photograph of Nigel Farage and Aaron Banks with their eyes cut out in the other.
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All good here in the Social Democratic Party.

The creative writing course that you paid so much money for. What a waste of money.
Save the money ans spend it on your Farage Heath Insurance Policy
 
Third Avenue said:
Who is scaremongering and hysterical about reforming the NHS?
Labour has addressed reforming the NHS in its 10-Year Health Plan and NHS Modernisation Bill. What Labour’s plan doesn’t do is include plans to systematically privatise the NHS and introduce an insurance based model which the overwhelming majority of people in this country do not want.
I’m not afraid of change at all. What I am afraid of is change that will place an increased burden on working class people whilst lining the pockets of the already super rich for whom reliance on the NHS is less of an issue.
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People don’t want the NHS changed as they’ve been subject to project fear and believe, incorrectly, it’s ‘free’. For those that contribute nothing to society it is, for the rest of us it isn’t. Different health systems operate differently globally and produce far better outcomes, greater choice, quicker treatment and far better patient experiences than the UK. User satisfaction is far higher. Seems like exploring these alternatives and shaping UK healthcare to adapt to modern society is something of a taboo subject for those on the left who like to keep people under control of the state.

Personally if I was Farage and became PM I would set up a cross party working group alongside outside experts both from within and outside the UK to look into UK healthcare reform. If the left didn’t want to participate then that’s fine. It would likely function far more smoothly without them and they could sit on the sidelines whining and griping as usual.
 
daleks.at.the.monaco said:
All good here in the Social Democratic Party.

The creative writing course that you paid so much money for. What a waste of money.
Save the money ans spend it on your Farage Heath Insurance Policy
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You tell us repeatedly you like the social dumbocrats. We aren’t surprised. A movement with deep rooted socialist roots. And here we have a socialist telling someone what to do with their money. Textbook.

Spearing of textbooks it’s exam season. You must be missing the thrill of the chase in pestering the exam boards for results as you previously claimed. I’m guessing it’s why you’re a seeking out fascist structures to replace this adrenaline rush.
 
Made in Wigan said:
You tell us repeatedly you like the social dumbocrats. We aren’t surprised. A movement with deep rooted socialist roots. And here we have a socialist telling someone what to do with their money. Textbook.

Spearing of textbooks it’s exam season. You must be missing the thrill of the chase in pestering the exam boards for results as you previously claimed. I’m guessing it’s why you’re a seeking out fascist structures to replace this adrenaline rush.
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Nope, no spears for me

You obvs noe nothing about the SD party or educashun but you do have a bad memory.

Did you ever read the Molesworth books e.g.'Down with Skool!'
 
St. Columb Major said:
The company is based in Manchester, it is NOT Manchester's.

As I said tenuous to say the least, no doubt my pension provider holds major shareholdings in some companies I totally deplore.

Electric vehicles and charging stations are a growth sector and inevitable as the world's natural resources diminish, I would expect anyone advising an potential investor to invest in this type of industry.

Octopus energy and it's subsidiary companies is a massive growing company do you honestly think that their business strategy is based on a regional Mayor or his wife.

As I said make the accusations knowing that some mud sticks and stupid people believe and everything without researching the actualities of the claims.
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As I said make the accusations knowing that some mud sticks and stupid people believe and everything without researching the actualities of the claims.

Any comeback on this or is it just stupid people believing stuff🤔

https://twitter.com/x/status/2064408974691090721
 
Made in Wigan said:
People don’t want the NHS changed as they’ve been subject to project fear and believe, incorrectly, it’s ‘free’. For those that contribute nothing to society it is, for the rest of us it isn’t. Different health systems operate differently globally and produce far better outcomes, greater choice, quicker treatment and far better patient experiences than the UK. User satisfaction is far higher. Seems like exploring these alternatives and shaping UK healthcare to adapt to modern society is something of a taboo subject for those on the left who like to keep people under control of the state.

Personally if I was Farage and became PM I would set up a cross party working group alongside outside experts both from within and outside the UK to look into UK healthcare reform. If the left didn’t want to participate then that’s fine. It would likely function far more smoothly without them and they could sit on the sidelines whining and griping as usual.
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The vast majority of the population do not want an insurance based private health care system. The project fear you refer to comes from the right where the likes of Reform and the right-wing element of the Tory Party are putting forward the idea that the NHS should be privatised.
Any form of insurance based health system will inherently favour those who can afford to pay for it at the expense of those who cannot. A two-tier health system in the hands of private investors that will put profit into the bank accounts of the rich rather than back into society for the good of everyone else.

The idea that Farage would be remotely interested in the idea of a cross party debate on any matter that doesn’t involve him lining his own pockets is delusional.
 
The NHS is sometimes open to abuse unfortunately. I've just returned from Spain and talking to ex pats living out there i asked if there was anything to make you go home again ?...the answer is usually the need for operations etc provided by the NHS. They'd be home in a flash if their health deteriorated and who could blame them.
 
Hindleymon27 said:
The NHS is sometimes open to abuse unfortunately. I've just returned from Spain and talking to ex pats living out there i asked if there was anything to make you go home again ?...the answer is usually the need for operations etc provided by the NHS. They'd be home in a flash if their health deteriorated and who could blame them.
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Friends who live in France (who we're off to see next week) say their system is part state funded and part private ... and has been excellent for them ... including dental treatment.

For a while, I was in BUPA while working. It was initially a benefit, but then we were asked to pay ... so I dropped out. The fees were just daft.
 
moonay said:
Friends who live in France (who we're off to see next week) say their system is part state funded and part private ... and has been excellent for them ... including dental treatment.

For a while, I was in BUPA while working. It was initially a benefit, but then we were asked to pay ... so I dropped out. The fees were just daft.
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That may be the future for the UK but whisper it or you'll be labelled the spawn of the devil.
 
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