Has the recognition of mental illness gone too far?

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I know, a rather inflammatory headline and perhaps not quite what I'm asking as my question is more diffuse than a direct question of mental illness.

Firstly I am in no way belittling those that have genuine a mental illness, my brother-in-law is manic depressive (bi-polar for all you 'muricanites out there) and I've seen the struggles he has gone through with great dignity. I have personally suffered from SAD, not uncommon in this part of the world (Scandinavia) however, I have noticed 2 very definite developments in society that might be considered detrimental to society as a whole.....but only might.

I'm not sure I'll be able to do my argument justice on via this media as it's not easy to explain without sounding like I'm being heartless, which some may well think I am but I assure you, it really is not the case.

The first development is the over-positive nature of society. What I mean by this is peer groups that support and compliment without necessarily thinking about it, meaning it or even knowing if it's appropriate as they don't have the background information. I see it on a daily basis, particularly in Facebook comments, I also see people fishing for such responses by posting so called cryptic status messages like "Oh no!" or "So unfair", to which the standard replies are, "You ok hun?", "Stay strong", "I don't know what the problem is but I know you're strong enough to get through it" and so on. Every picture has to be greeted with "Stunning", "So handsome/pretty" and the like. The massaging of egos and people's self esteem is endless, many are probably thinking that this can only be a good thing but is it? Firstly, if it's not something you'd say to someone's face then does it really have any meaning when it's said on line? Secondly, people are being so sheltered from the "real world" (if such a thing exists) that perhaps they will not cope when things don't work out and they don't have their gang of cheer leaders to build them up again. Are we creating a race of mentally week people?

Which leads me to the second development, the need to diagnose and label anything and everything. The simple fact is, many of these conditions, real or imagined, can not be treated. The only reason for diagnosis is to allow a label to be attached that either condemns the individual to a lesser life or is used as an excuse, making allowances that will not actually help them to lead a normal life. A classic example of this is ADHD. I don't doubt that there are some genuine cases and they need some kind of treatment but when I look at a good number of cases diagnosed I know for a fact that when I was a kid, I too would have received that diagnosis had it been recognised at the time, and I can't imagine it ever being anything more than a burden for me to carry. I know of one or two cases when people were medicated but when they left school they stopped the medicine and had no problems with their further education, one girl said to me that she just didn't like school and was bored but when she was given the chance to study something she is interested in, it was no problem.....she is now a fully qualified and working chef.

Whatever happened to just getting on with life? When did we become so needy that we need the affirmations and approval of others just to get through the day? Whatever happened to kids being taught by teachers who knew how to control a classroom, how to engage the students (and no, I don't mean corporal punishment, a good teacher doesn't need it) Dare I say it, what ever happened to "pull yourself together"? Which I know is entirely unhelpful for those with genuine mental health issues but for the majority of us that are just having a bad day, it really is the only thing that works. Have we become so interdependent that we struggle to function without the approval of others and if so, what happens when that network is not available, is our society primed for a social crash, like the economic one we experienced and have been paying for since 2007?

Or maybe I'm just heartless?

 
No, I agree, I've said it before, if I was at school now they'd have me as all sorts of labels and I think it has gone too far and it is almost a badge.

Someone close to me the other day came to my place, saw my shoe rack and said to my dad, I couldn't do that I would have to straighten them due to my ocd.

My dad just laughed. You couldn't get straighter, you couldn't get a more 'everything in it's place' type of person than me, I don't however feel the need for a label about it.

Youngsters seem to want to have these different letters to put on themselves and it is very much a 'poor me' ... 'I'm a victim' type of society now. Or even worse, 'it's not my fault I'm ****' (whatever particular label suits)

 
It's not just youngsters though, I have a few old classmates that are the same on Facebook, one of them annoyed me so much I deleted and then blocker her, she got all upset with me because I made a comment about parents and she happens to have lost both of hers. Very sad for her but how the heck was I supposed to know and even if I did, why does she have to be the centre of things, it's not all about her.

But yes, it is very de rigueur among the young, especially the OCD thing. No one that has genuine OCD would ever make jokes like that about it.

 
lol.... funny you should mention your shoe rack JF, Sophie asked if you were a bit OCD coz of how ll your mugs were lined up.

I said, no I don't think so, he's just tidy.

Strange how tidyness gets confused for OCD these days.
 
Been thinking this for a while too.

Nation of wimps who care more about their online persona then what is actually hapenening in real life. The whole nation is a bunch of 'Like Whores'.

I often scratch my head and wonder , why people are even posting these things on Social media ? What are the trying to achieve?

Some kid from school, who you never talk too, likes the photo of your dinner? Well done, you are a fun loving, popular person !

Doctors pumping out anti-depressants to solve everything is bloody dangerous too.

The world is messed up, im going for a life of ignorance, my man cave in the himalayas will be ready by April.
 
Villan Of The North - 25/8/2015 12:26

she got all upset with me because I made a comment about parents and she happens to have lost both of hers.

This drives me crazy, every fathers/mothers day. People who have lost their parents have to make a big song and dance about it on Facebook.

I lost both my parents a while back, my sister has to write some stupid crap every year like "cant believe how quickly the time has gone since your were cruelly taken from us, thinking of you every day" = 100+ likes.

She didnt even visit my dad in the years up to him dying anyway. I've asked her why she feels the need to write this stuff on a public forum.

She cant give me an answer. You're attention seeking, admit it.
 
DeanoVilla - 25/8/2015 12:53

lol.... funny you should mention your shoe rack JF, Sophie asked if you were a bit OCD coz of how ll your mugs were lined up.

I said, no I don't think so, he's just tidy.

Strange how tidyness gets confused for OCD these days.

lol ! Yeah, it's just a feature really! I think we are all a bit of this and a bit of that. I have many ways that would be funny to others but are normal to me. I'm sure we all do?!

I do like tidy though and get uncomfortable if things are all over the place, whereas others love the order of chaos don't they!?

 
It's strange isn't it simon? I guess some people just feel the need to express themselves, or is it they want the poor you attention?

I can't understand the 'if he/she was alive today she'd/he'd be 90' ... wtf?
 
Yam all feckin menkal, om the only sane ba**ad on here IMO!!
 
I sometimes think I post too many photos on Facebook. Every now and then I'll think, "is anyone really interested in seeing this?", but then I'll post it anyway.

For me its a good place to store my photos, and if just 1 person enjoys seeing them, then sod the rest.

But yeah it is weird when you stop and think. I never used to get my photo's developed and send them in the post to all my friends....

Suppose it's progress... but I guess not all progress is good.
 
I think it is better we have more awareness of mental health issues today however like anything it has gone from the sublime (no understanding) to the ridiculous (OTT)

My 2nd son who is bipolar doesn't tell people he is unless he knows, or gets to know them well. Yup I have mental health problems, however usually quantify it by saying 'they are more managed today, than they manage me'

The posts on FB asking you to like and share to show you care say about autism/depression/bipolar and so on, make my blood boil. Are they trying to say I don't care cos I don't repost them.