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Took us down? In League One?

Selective memory, We were 23rd and about 10 points adrift after the Fatman had cleaned Scally out and he put Fish in charge to find a buyer. Harris took over and we finally went down on goal difference after Kelman got sent off and suspended leaving us with an unfit Oliver as our only striker.

But....what Shotshy says. :slap:
What PuB says 😊
 
Took us down? In League One?

Selective memory, We were 23rd and about 10 points adrift after the Fatman had cleaned Scally out and he put Fish in charge to find a buyer. Harris took over and we finally went down on goal difference after Kelman got sent off and suspended leaving us with an unfit Oliver as our only striker.

But....what Shotshy says. :slap:
We only went down on goal difference because the bottom 5 were all so bad and so far adrift that season. Fleetwood stayed up on 40 points when every other season in the past 25 years 5th bottom has been 46 points plus (and we ourselves went down with 50 points). We picked up a bit but were still pretty bad and also tailed off badly. 90% Evans to blame for the season but still wish we'd gone for it a bit more in that Fleetwood home game.
 
We only went down on goal difference because the bottom 5 were all so bad and so far adrift that season. Fleetwood stayed up on 40 points when every other season in the past 25 years 5th bottom has been 46 points plus (and we ourselves went down with 50 points). We picked up a bit but were still pretty bad and also tailed off badly. 90% Evans to blame for the season but still wish we'd gone for it a bit more in that Fleetwood home game.
Agreed, but it is hard to think that we could have had much less firepower.

If Oliver hadn't been rushed back we would have had to play a false number 9 against Rotherham with Kelman suspended. That loanee from Norwich with the double barrelled name (Dickson Peters, I think*) never really featured and I think is now playing non league.

Then we were on to the Mandron and Kashket** show

Edit - *now seems to be without a club after leaving Whitehawk.
**now seems to be without a club after leaving Sutton.
 
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Agreed, but it is hard to think that we could have had much less firepower.

If Oliver hadn't been rushed back we would have had to play a false number 9 against Rotherham with Kelman suspended. That loanee from Norwich with the double barrelled name (Dickson Peters, I think*) never really featured and I think is now playing non league.

Then we were on to the Mandron and Kashket** show

Edit - *now seems to be without a club after leaving Whitehawk.
**now seems to be without a club after leaving Sutton.
Scott Kashket is now at Hornchurch:

 
Good article on what Harris has done for Millwall here, also goes into the possible reasons behind his departure::

As I said earlier. He took a role at Millwall as a head coach and then left because he didn’t like the DoF. Same thing happened at Gillingham.
 
As I said earlier. He took a role at Millwall as a head coach and then left because he didn’t like the DoF. Same thing happened at Gillingham.
He does seem to have disagreed with the profile of players signed in their last transfer window .
 
He does seem to have disagreed with the profile of players signed in their last transfer window .
Now we will just have to see who they entrust with the Edwards/Clemence fall guy role, and whether if that manager doesn't achieve his three targets simultaneously they will be gone by the summer.

The two targets initially being more expansive football and bringing young players through to sell at a profit, but in the end the third one will be where they end up in the table. Always the bottom line, as owners and fans aren't interested in jam tomorrow..
 
As I said earlier. He took a role at Millwall as a head coach and then left because he didn’t like the DoF. Same thing happened at Gillingham.

Spot on. Sees himself as manager as opposed to head coach . Doesn’t have too much of a say in the transfer market . He’ll pop up somewhere anyway
As I said earlier. He took a role at Millwall as a head coach and then left because he didn’t like the DoF. Same thing happened at Gillingham.
 
Spot on. Sees himself as manager as opposed to head coach . Doesn’t have too much of a say in the transfer market . He’ll pop up somewhere anyway
I'm not surprised clubs don't trust him in the transfer market after the squad he assembled where we were heading out of the football league.
 
I'm not surprised clubs don't trust him in the transfer market after the squad he assembled where we were heading out of the football league.
I trust you are joking. He didn't assemble any Gills squads, at least not on his own. He arrived a couple of days before the January Transfer window closed so only managed to add Ben Thompson.

He then had a Head of Recruitment in Nicky Shorey using Green Shield stamps to sign players (Green, Kashket, Mandron) in Summer 2022. From that point on, under Galinson their was a DOF heading a recruitment team.

Strange how we are now turning things round by being better organised defensively and snatching 1-0 wins. How long will the ownership and fans tolerate that?
 
From the Beeb’s report on Millwall’s game today:
“There were reports of Millwall players in tears at the training ground after Harris made his shock announcement on Tuesday”
Sounds a bit like when he left Gills! I remember Masterson appearing quite broke in an interview soon after.
But this quote from Harris…
“It's been difficult for the lads because they're losing their leader and it's difficult for them to understand why, and where they're going next”